People are NOT falling for "everything is fine! Reopen" GOP bullshit

[Takket]

But the defrosting process seems to be going slowly—at least if you judge by the number of people brave enough to eat out. At restaurants that use OpenTable’s booking software, the number of diners in every state where the company tracks data was still down by 82 percent or more through Sunday, compared with a year before. That includes early reopeners like Georgia (down 92 percent), Utah (down 91 percent), Nebraska (down 90 percent), South Carolina (down 89 percent), Tennessee (down 87 percent), Texas (down 83 percent), and Oklahoma (down 82 percent).

https://slate.com/business/2020/05/south-reopening-restaurants-coronavirus-opentable.html

This article shows the folly of drumpf’s “reopen!” Without any kind of plan. As expected just because you declare the economy open doesn’t mean people are STUPID. They will not go out if they feel like the situation is out of control, and the Feds are doing nothing to control it.

Drumpf and his cabal banked on the covidiot protestors being the norm and not the exception, and now restaurants are opening and no one is showing up.

[C_U_L8R]

1. I'm waiting for two solid weeks of downward data

But everywhere is still going up. And will keep going up if these people fuck things up.

[ProfessorGAC]

2. Or Flat

Here in IL, deaths (while bouncing a bit), hospitalizations, ICU bed occupancy, & ventilator use has been flat for about a week.
But, aside from ventilator use, the values are pretty high.
So it's plateaued, but it's not a low plateau. And it definitely isn't declining.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Overall, we don't look close to flattening

Here's John Hopkins data...
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

Seems like it's rocketing steadily up.

[Igel]

6. You've defined "flattened" as "no new cases."

That's not what it meant when it was discussed.

It also means that the cases in NYC will be skyrocketing even when in NYC there are no new cases if cases are increasing in Kansas.

I get that people in NYC want Kansas shut down when things are bad in NYC, but I don't think they'll put up for keeping NYC locked down when there are no active cases in NYC but there are in KS.

You get "skyrocketing data" on the number of active cases from increased infections and from increased testing. One's meaningful, one's not. It's active cases, not cumulative cases, that matter. If the virus ceased to exist tomorrow, the number of cumulative cases will not decline.

[C_U_L8R]

14. Thx. Got it.

Of course cumulative trend line doesn't go down... but it needs to 'flatten' or if that's the wrong term, show no increase. The folks here at MGH are looking for two weeks with no additional cases until they can say we are in the clear. One new case and they reset the counter.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. You don't understand the concept of flattening the curve or you have the wrong curve. See this:

It's the second curve, not the first:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13322179

Flattening does not mean driving it to zero.

[Politicub]

16. I'm waiting until months of downward data until I eat in

a restaurant again.

The risk is too great, and I would obsesses about employees who are not wearing masks as well as other patrons.

[dewsgirl]

4. Good, I hope some people are smarter than we think.

[gratuitous]

5. But they're being really loud about it

And getting a ridiculously respectful hearing in all the media outlets, as well as the usual echo chamber reverb from Fox. Can't understand why people don't want to go out and die for the greater good of Wal Mart's bottom line?

[lame54]

7. Too many are

[fwvinson]

13. Here in Western Kentucky, WalMart is full of people. Maybe 20% wear masks. Spiking here.

People here are just not paying attention, it seems like. I have only been to WalMart once, in the past few months, a couple of days ago. I was really scared. Couldn't stand to be in there.

[Hugin]

8. In their rush to politicize the pandemic...

They failed to realize (not surprising, they aren't students of even recent history) that most of these industries and services has shut down long before any sort of stay-at-home orders were implemented.

They had shut down because nobody was going out. Even then.

My favorite example is movie theaters. During a weekend in March which had historically shown an average of $200M in receipts. There was only $5K in revenue.

Since the current fad is expressing everything as percentages, that's a 99.75% decrease in the sector. This is before a single stay-home order was implemented.

[pazzyanne]

9. It is really too bad that we have an administration that is too lazy to do the work.

Or maybe it is because they are too busy using their positions to rake in all the money they can while they can. I am beyond disgusted.

[bucolic_frolic]

10. People need to feel safe and be able to afford it

So, yeah, that's not going so well.

[orangecrush]

12. My thoughts exactly

I don't want to die for someone else's stupidity.

[Lonestarblue]

15. I'm staying home for the foreseeable future.

In my area, Austin, infections continue to rise, along with deaths. The numbers are not overwhelming the medical community, but we have a robust medical/hospital capacity. Until the number of new cases shows at least a downward turn (versus the current graph line at about a 45 degree angle), I will venture out only for necessities.

Governors like mine can open their states, but they can’t force customers to return.