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I'm over CA-25 but we can never let that happen again. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2020 OP
We're never going to win every election. bearsfootball516 May 2020 #1
Every voter received a mail in ballot with postage paid. DemocratSinceBirth May 2020 #3
I agree with you Claustrum May 2020 #8
Yes, any lessons learned from this election year need to take into account COVID-19 (nt) ehrnst May 2020 #11
This would be the first D seat that flips R in CA since 1998 Celerity May 2020 #12
How flipping lazy could those voters be dsc May 2020 #16
In a lot of communities in this district SoCalNative May 2020 #23
So they just let all of their mail sit for weeks or months at a time? dsc May 2020 #24
At this time some of them might SoCalNative May 2020 #25
I am sure you can find maybe 1 or 2 out of a hundred who are doing that dsc May 2020 #26
They return mail that's not picked up in a timely manner. They have too!!!! jimfields33 May 2020 #31
There was something else going on in CA-25, a left leaning (wont say dem) PAC supported Garcia uponit7771 May 2020 #2
ahhh. R B Garr May 2020 #4
Tryin to find the thread on it I saw last night, yeah ... something weird uponit7771 May 2020 #5
Thanks! It is interesting. nt R B Garr May 2020 #15
Here's the link I saw last night (link) uponit7771 May 2020 #6
CA-25 has Cenk stink all over it. MrsCoffee May 2020 #7
lol I wouldn't be surprised at lots of things that have no proof n/t theaocp May 2020 #9
Lol, yeah. Not like he started the Justice Democrats or anything. MrsCoffee May 2020 #10
lol feel free and bring up the proof you said you didn't have n/t theaocp May 2020 #13
Agreed. This explains a lot. I forgot Cenk R B Garr May 2020 #17
need to remember that CA 25 is a RED district Amishman May 2020 #14
This is probably correct. Polly Hennessey May 2020 #18
She should never have resigned. thucythucy May 2020 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #21
yup, CA 25 is at the metaphorical high water mark of the 2018 blue wave Amishman May 2020 #22
Hopefully we only have to put up with this jackass until Jan 2021. I would think the Nov election kysrsoze May 2020 #20
We should have had Hill's back, consensual sex is not reason for resignation. Demsrule86 May 2020 #28
This is the one where we forced Katie Hill out for no damn reason and now we lose the seat...we need Demsrule86 May 2020 #27
Here's a lesson: eissa May 2020 #29
I agree Sunsky May 2020 #30
Agreed Demovictory9 May 2020 #32

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. We're never going to win every election.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:41 AM
May 2020

I’d bet that this election was a pretty extraordinary circumstance. Run this election without COVID19 to push down turnout, or at a time when it isn’t only 6 months away from the seat being up again, and it would be a different story.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
8. I agree with you
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:56 AM
May 2020

I don't understand why everyone seems to think we will keep all the gains we had in 2018. I understand we are still in the "resist mode" under Trump and that should theoretically boost our turn-out. However, we turned a lot of right leaning counties (including this one) blue in 2018 and those are outliers rather than norms. Those districts aren't suddenly going to be consistently blue.

That also leaves out the strength/weakness of our candidate and theirs. It looks like they have the racial and other profile that fits CA-25. Similar to Obama's race attracts a lot of blacks and minorities to vote for him (not saying they don't agree with his politics, but you can't discount that some voted blue to see a black/minority president even if they are republicans/independents).

I am sure we will see similar "sad" post when Doug Jones loses the Alabama seat in Nov while any reasonable being would know he is close to a lost clause. I do hope he will keep his seat but I am realistic about his chances.

Celerity

(43,465 posts)
12. This would be the first D seat that flips R in CA since 1998
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:01 AM
May 2020

If Mike Garcia's lead over Christy Smith holds, he'll become the only House Republican from a district Hillary Clinton won with more than 50% of the vote.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
16. How flipping lazy could those voters be
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:16 AM
May 2020

they got a ballot mailed to them, with postage paid return. All those lazy ass voters had to do was fill it out. put in the envelope and put the envelope in the mail. It isn't like this election was important or anything. At some point we have to call lazy ass voters lazy ass voters. These are adults for the love of God.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
23. In a lot of communities in this district
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:54 AM
May 2020

there is no mail delivery/pick-up and you have to go to the small post offices there to both retrieve and send your mail. So it isn't as easy as just putting it out for the postman to pick-up and perhaps even getting out to do this was more of a risk than some people wanted to take.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
24. So they just let all of their mail sit for weeks or months at a time?
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

I find that rather difficult to believe.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
25. At this time some of them might
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:07 PM
May 2020

if they don't feel comfortable leaving the house. I have a friend who lives in one of these communities who has very serious kidney disease. I guarantee you that she is not leaving the house much, if at all, these days.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
26. I am sure you can find maybe 1 or 2 out of a hundred who are doing that
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

but the turnout on our side was way worse than such numbers would be responsible for.

jimfields33

(15,902 posts)
31. They return mail that's not picked up in a timely manner. They have too!!!!
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:38 PM
May 2020

Plus they’ve had these absentee ballots for two months. I’m for giving benefit of the doubt but not to the extreme.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
2. There was something else going on in CA-25, a left leaning (wont say dem) PAC supported Garcia
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:42 AM
May 2020

... at first for some reason.

CA-25 looks a little weird

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
7. CA-25 has Cenk stink all over it.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:52 AM
May 2020

I wouldn’t be surprised if he was behind some shenanigans. Nope, no proof, just a real strong gut feeling.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
10. Lol, yeah. Not like he started the Justice Democrats or anything.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:58 AM
May 2020

And not like he inserted himself directly into the race.

But, yeah, LOL.

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
17. Agreed. This explains a lot. I forgot Cenk
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:18 AM
May 2020

was involved there. Makes sense the Rs would mobilize against that nonsense. What a shame.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
14. need to remember that CA 25 is a RED district
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:14 AM
May 2020

It was republican held continuously from 1992 to 2018.

It was a stretch and a remarkable flip in 2018. There is also the baggage / backlash of the Democratic office holder having resigned after a scandal

Polly Hennessey

(6,801 posts)
18. This is probably correct.
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:53 AM
May 2020

Would seem to be some sort of backlash about Katie Hill and her icky scandal. My anger is directed toward her and her cavalier attitude toward winning an election in a red district. Losing CA-25 does not surprise me.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
19. She should never have resigned.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:58 AM
May 2020

By November her "scandal" would have been a blip, and inconsequential in the coming blue tsunami.

Why oh why do we insist on surrendering what few levers of power we hold?

Response to Amishman (Reply #14)

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
22. yup, CA 25 is at the metaphorical high water mark of the 2018 blue wave
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:27 AM
May 2020

nice to see the big blue sea can reach up that far, but unreasonable to expect to crest that high every cycle thereafter.

dropping the ocean metaphors, it also matters that the Republicans ran someone very well suited to the district. Places like CA 25 are where we do need blue dog types. I know we like to dish on Manchin, Tester, and the other handful of blue dogs left, but we're better off overall with them in these seats than a true rightwinger.

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)
20. Hopefully we only have to put up with this jackass until Jan 2021. I would think the Nov election
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:08 AM
May 2020

will bring out more blue voters... at least I hope so. There is way too much trash in my district.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
27. This is the one where we forced Katie Hill out for no damn reason and now we lose the seat...we need
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

end this shit, or we will never get anywhere. We gave this seat away.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
30. I agree
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:26 PM
May 2020

People are acting like this didn't happen or it did not play a role. This is a red district. Those crossover voters, who probably voted Democratic first in their lifetime, probably felt they got screwed after the scandal. I believe, disappointment and regret played in the Republican's favor.

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