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demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:49 AM May 2020

A Karen Goes Berserk at Red Lobster on Mother's Day (YORK, PA)

A Karen Goes Berserk at Red Lobster on Mother's Day (YORK, PA)

Woman upset that she has to wait 3 hours for food from Red Lobster on Mother’s Day when the restaurant has a reduced staff.


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A Karen Goes Berserk at Red Lobster on Mother's Day (YORK, PA) (Original Post) demmiblue May 2020 OP
Someone Aviation Pro May 2020 #1
We're never going to make it... lame54 May 2020 #2
I disagree. Aristus May 2020 #9
and there have always been con men RussBLib May 2020 #39
+1. dalton99a May 2020 #61
They didn't have a Retrumplican Party welcoming them with open arms and maxrandb May 2020 #70
Post removed Post removed May 2020 #3
Classy, congrats! Nt USALiberal May 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2020 #47
She's the definition of a Karen Polybius May 2020 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2020 #84
You can do better than this. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #19
We store body fat for a reason. That's our evolutionary way. roamer65 May 2020 #22
Are you fat? Deformed? Or anything else? BuddhaGirl May 2020 #62
I said no different than a doctor would tell HER or HIM. roamer65 May 2020 #73
The difference is the doctor maintains a sincere concern for a patient's well-being LanternWaste May 2020 #76
+1 BuddhaGirl May 2020 #78
+1 nt USALiberal May 2020 #86
You're not a doctor. BuddhaGirl May 2020 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 May 2020 #83
Classy, nice to see how you think. Nt USALiberal May 2020 #71
stop it obamanut2012 May 2020 #44
York has not been looking very good this week. bbernardini May 2020 #4
Restaurant Calls Cops; Trespasses Her Ass. MineralMan May 2020 #5
EXACTLY!!! bluestarone May 2020 #29
Cheddar Bay biscuits make people crazy. BusyBeingBest May 2020 #6
they have enough palm oil in them to choke a camel HAB911 May 2020 #13
I have a very good recipe for the biscuits. No need to enter the establishment. niyad May 2020 #54
Those biscuits are good... tonedevil May 2020 #80
Oh please tell me this crazy woman isn't somebody's actual mother. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #7
I would have just given her back her money. It wasn't worth it and dangerous as well. jalan48 May 2020 #8
They were going to give her a refund, but they told her she had to wait outside. n/t demmiblue May 2020 #12
Thanks for that info. Looks like she wanted to be Drama Queen for the Day. jalan48 May 2020 #20
What does "a karen" mean? milestogo May 2020 #10
Crazy entitled white women CanonRay May 2020 #17
Karens come in any race/ethnicity Amishman May 2020 #35
This slang dictionary post on what it is to be a Karen explains it nicely. MontanaMama May 2020 #26
Exactly. It's a larf when it's someone else. LakeArenal May 2020 #55
Now that I know what it is, I really don't like it. milestogo May 2020 #58
Thanks. LakeArenal May 2020 #59
I know fron personal experience it sucks to have that name bedazzled May 2020 #75
It's based an a haircut. It's actually quite sexist. LakeArenal May 2020 #37
Really? There are similar male nicknames. PTWB May 2020 #50
Not related to a woman's haircut that is very common. LakeArenal May 2020 #52
Yet I have been known to refer to some guys as "dick heads". n/t Whiskeytide May 2020 #53
True enough. But it's not like Dick is necessarily a dick. LakeArenal May 2020 #56
Who always demand to "see a manager, immediately!" smirkymonkey May 2020 #66
I kind of recoil at the word 'Karen' becoming a pejorative tinrobot May 2020 #74
Me too. I would not be amused if my name was Karen. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #99
A white woman who deserves mockery jberryhill May 2020 #88
Karen is Becky's sister. demmiblue May 2020 #91
America, the not so beautiful spanone May 2020 #11
The media could not be played Fullduplexxx May 2020 #14
Ok, just being a little devil's advocate here for both sides... tavernier May 2020 #15
I did not watch the video, but ya. Waiting 3 hours for food is ridiculous. Short staff or not. LizBeth May 2020 #69
At least she doxxed herself. Croney May 2020 #18
She works at Penn State Jamastiene May 2020 #31
+1 dalton99a May 2020 #63
This is why your order ahead. Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #21
We ordered ahead on Mother's Day and still waited almost 2 hrs Tribetime May 2020 #87
Wow!!! Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #90
She should be arrested and charged with everything imaginable. Jamastiene May 2020 #23
She Could Have RobinA May 2020 #28
I have worked retail too. Jamastiene May 2020 #30
They Shouldn't Have Been RobinA May 2020 #34
Ah, but in this case she's not a Karen, she's a Kathy Hill aquamarina May 2020 #24
Apparently, her middle name is Karen. smirkymonkey May 2020 #68
No. 1 - So glad we decided to celebrate Mother's Day with grilled steaks at home. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #25
They had to do something. She was ridiculously out of control, Jamastiene May 2020 #33
A very unexpected benefit from this experience is that Baitball Blogger May 2020 #36
I like the way I cook my own food too. Jamastiene May 2020 #38
Hope she didn't give anyone the virus. txwhitedove May 2020 #27
I'd like to see what happened inside Takket May 2020 #32
***She*** doesn't state how long she has been waiting Ms. Toad May 2020 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2020 #45
We don't know that. Iggo May 2020 #48
no mask moron. nt Javaman May 2020 #41
That woman has a serious seafood need Bayard May 2020 #42
I mean I like their biscuits too but come on. Also, she is another virus hugger. kairos12 May 2020 #43
Check out Pinterest. Grammy23 May 2020 #49
Thanks Grammy I will check it out. Stay safe. kairos12 May 2020 #51
I found a very good recipe for the biscuits years ago. Love them. And my grocery store has niyad May 2020 #65
Why didn't they just call the police? cwydro May 2020 #46
There is no actual requirement to eat at Red Lobster Nature Man May 2020 #57
Isn't social media wonderful? Steelrolled May 2020 #60
If she had any class she would just say no to Red Lobster. yellowcanine May 2020 #64
Even in normal times, Mothers' Day is ALWAYS busy, with long lines, long waits, cranky niyad May 2020 #67
Look at how many of them were face-to-face... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #79
Surprised no one has yet posted the video of the assault in Target. cwydro May 2020 #81
This one? ChangeNHope May 2020 #85
I saw it posted here. demmiblue May 2020 #89
Guess I missed it. cwydro May 2020 #100
No wonder she's picking up her own food on Mother's Day. Totally Tunsie May 2020 #82
Brawl breaks ou at Red Lobster after long wait times on Mother's Day--East York, Pennsylvania. riversedge May 2020 #92
And The Staff Had Masks On Their Chins ProfessorGAC May 2020 #93
I didn't know what a "Karen" was, so I had to look it up. Brother Mythos May 2020 #94
OK, Chad. demmiblue May 2020 #95
I found that one in the same place I found "Karen." You did not make me look again! Brother Mythos May 2020 #96
This is why you order ahead and call to check the status before changing out of your pajamas. desertduck May 2020 #97
I'm never leaving the house again. LuckyCharms May 2020 #98

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
9. I disagree.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:09 AM
May 2020

Assholes existed back then, too.

They had hoarders back then.

They had MAGAts back then; their MO was to deny American citizens the basic privilege of citizenship: military service, unless it was segregated, as with African and Japanese-Americans.

They had unpatriotic crooks back then, gangsters who heisted military supplies and sold them on the black market. Counterfeiters who took advantage of the war's rationing program to print counterfeit ration books, stamps, and stickers.

They had cowards back then; guys who deserted their units when their buddies needed them most.

They had bullies back then; assholes who went around beating up any American with a German or Italian name, or anyone who looked Japanese.

They had lazy slackers back then. Guys who 'leaned on their shovels', when all around them, their co-workers created miracles of industrial war production.

They had sleazy opportunists back then; unscrupulous women who married multiple servicemen in order to get the spousal support allotment from their husbands' military pay.

We really haven't changed all that much...


RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
39. and there have always been con men
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

I am willing to give Trump the title of "Absolute Greatest Conman/Grifter of All Time!"

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
70. They didn't have a Retrumplican Party welcoming them with open arms and
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:46 PM
May 2020

declaring them freedom fighters and Patriots.

So there is that difference.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Response to USALiberal (Reply #16)

Response to Polybius (Reply #72)

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. We store body fat for a reason. That's our evolutionary way.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:36 AM
May 2020

As hunter gatherers we store fat for the dry periods without food.

I just suggested she uses some of it. It won’t hurt her.

BuddhaGirl

(3,607 posts)
62. Are you fat? Deformed? Or anything else?
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:13 PM
May 2020

I hope nobody would shame you.

We should be better than that, right?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
73. I said no different than a doctor would tell HER or HIM.
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:04 PM
May 2020

They all tell us to stop smoking, lose weight and get exercise.

They are right.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
76. The difference is the doctor maintains a sincere concern for a patient's well-being
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

The difference is the doctor maintains a sincere concern for a patient's well-being, rather than merely pretending to be clever at the expense of advertising their own fundamental character flaws.



But I understand the need to recast simple petulance as part of the physician's creed.

Response to BuddhaGirl (Reply #77)

bbernardini

(9,938 posts)
4. York has not been looking very good this week.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

Mind you, this is the town where the (Democratic!) mayor was encouraging people to go out to eat and shop in mid-March. Nice beef jerky outlet there, though.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
5. Restaurant Calls Cops; Trespasses Her Ass.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:56 AM
May 2020

I didn't see any cops there. That's the solution. Just call them.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
29. EXACTLY!!!
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:50 AM
May 2020

To add that if this idiot would have taken a swing at the police, she would have been CHARGED with disorderly conduct OR Assault!! Why they didn't call the police is beyond me!

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
80. Those biscuits are good...
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

but isn't it odd that the best and most famous dish on the menu at a seafood restaurant is biscuits.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
35. Karens come in any race/ethnicity
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:57 AM
May 2020

But yes; entitled, belligerent, with completely unreasonable expectations, and no grasp of reality.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
26. This slang dictionary post on what it is to be a Karen explains it nicely.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:45 AM
May 2020
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/karen/

Karen has a stereotypical haircut too. Her male counterpart is named Chad. Lots of funny Karen videos on YouTube. I think it’s hilarious. So glad my name isn’t Karen in real life however

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
75. I know fron personal experience it sucks to have that name
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:51 PM
May 2020

Thanks for having a heart. It is not called for

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
56. True enough. But it's not like Dick is necessarily a dick.
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:03 PM
May 2020

Karen is supposedly a crazy woman shouting rude things at folks.

Anyway. I’m not arguing. I think it’s sexist.

tinrobot

(10,900 posts)
74. I kind of recoil at the word 'Karen' becoming a pejorative
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:09 PM
May 2020

There are a lot of very nice people named Karen.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
88. A white woman who deserves mockery
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

It is a pejorative term which is applied to white women. Like "bitch", but more specific to a type of white woman.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
15. Ok, just being a little devil's advocate here for both sides...
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
May 2020

If she truly had to wait three hours for a plate of shrimp and French fries, or whatever her order was, then there were more problems at that restaurant than a short staff. Her order probably got lost and she no doubt would never get it. On the other hand, after an hour’s wait, she should have knocked on the door and asked for her money back, or the manager should have responded to her concern in some way. There are so many other ways this could have been resolved. If we truly had a leader of this country who encouraged everyone to work for the same purpose, there would be less of these frustrations.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
69. I did not watch the video, but ya. Waiting 3 hours for food is ridiculous. Short staff or not.
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:27 PM
May 2020

Virus or not. She should have been told it would be a 3 hour wait and given the option of ordering or not. And after 45 minutes I would have been done.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. She works at Penn State
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

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Her employer should see the video. All of these assholes acting this way right now should be forever remembered for how they are acting, imo. The rest of us can be adults about things. Why can't they?

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
21. This is why your order ahead.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:29 AM
May 2020

My brother called my mother on mother's day and while she was on the phone he ordered for them at a local seafood place and just said "you have a pickup time of 4:15 for dinner" She was Thrilled!!!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
23. She should be arrested and charged with everything imaginable.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:40 AM
May 2020

She obviously wasn't raised right or she wouldn't act like a damn bully and assault restaurant staff. Even five year old children act better than that.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
28. She Could Have
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:49 AM
May 2020

handled the situation better, but some of the staff was a bit out of line themselves. Not exactly a tutorial on how to handle customers. I'm going to have to call a pox on both their houses on this one. Yes, I've worked retail.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
30. I have worked retail too.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

I thought they were doing the best they could with an oversized toddler pitching a temper tantrum, UNTIL she started hitting that one woman. Then, it was clear, she was the one that needed the time out and for the police to show up and arrest her.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
34. They Shouldn't Have Been
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

pushing her out of the store. Give her the refund and send her on her way.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
25. No. 1 - So glad we decided to celebrate Mother's Day with grilled steaks at home.
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:43 AM
May 2020

No. 2 - This doesn't look good as a harbinger of what's to come with business openings.

No. 3 - I wish Tammy had not grabbed that crazy Karen's hair, but it did seem to diffuse the issue.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. They had to do something. She was ridiculously out of control,
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

and assaulting people. I do agree if there was a better way, it would have been better, but wow, she was out of control. She needs to take an Adulting 101 course.

I'd rather be at home or order food I can pick up and leave and not have to experience the Trump Virus spreaders.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
36. A very unexpected benefit from this experience is that
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:05 PM
May 2020

I enjoy cooking, I prefer my own cooking to restaurant cooking (unless it's 5 star), and I'm saving a boatload of money.

Well, maybe not a boatload, but enough to encourage me to continue staying home.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
38. I like the way I cook my own food too.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:17 PM
May 2020

I would rather be at home than go out most of the time anyhow. There have been a lot of bad incidents at local restaurants where I live. I tend to avoid them because of the problems with food poisoning that happens a little too often. That was before this. I would hate to think what it is like now. I do want some things, but I can find a way to make most of what I want at home. I like cooking ok, but don't have the room or money for a dishwasher. So, I am my dishwasher. THAT part, I hate, lol.

It does save money to eat at home most of the time and the food is cooking, for sure, safely, and the way you like it.

Takket

(21,566 posts)
32. I'd like to see what happened inside
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

I’d be pissed too about waiting three hours If no one warned me ahead of time how busy it was, and who know what happened when she asked for a refund inside. The video starts where something has already escalated and she’s being shoved out the door.

She did clearly assault the employee when she hit that one woman in the head. And I found it hilarious after the employee grabbed her hair in defense the customer said she has been assaulted and everyone was a witness lol um no. You threw the first punch!!!

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
40. ***She*** doesn't state how long she has been waiting
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

At least not in the only copy of the video I can find. An unidentified male yells that near the end of the video.

Response to Takket (Reply #32)

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
48. We don't know that.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:44 PM
May 2020

If she threw punches inside like she did outside, it might have started then.

Or some other how.

We don’t know because we came in halfway.

Cops should have been called, though. And I agree, it looks like at least one of those employees is getting fired.

Bayard

(22,069 posts)
42. That woman has a serious seafood need
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:32 PM
May 2020

Anyone willing to wait 3 hours for a meal best learn to cook, not throw a hissy.

Most of the staff lost their masks in the battle. Reckless endangerment and assault.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
49. Check out Pinterest.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:45 PM
May 2020

There are many, many copycat recipes for Cheddar Bay biscuits. And I think there might even be an authentic Red Lobster mix available at some grocery stores. No need to get into a knock down drag out at the actual restaurant. Make your own. 🤷?♀️ 😉

niyad

(113,302 posts)
65. I found a very good recipe for the biscuits years ago. Love them. And my grocery store has
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

Started carrying a Red Lobster authentic mix.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
46. Why didn't they just call the police?
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:41 PM
May 2020

God help all of them if any one of them in that scrum happens to be positive for the virus. Smh.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
57. There is no actual requirement to eat at Red Lobster
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:05 PM
May 2020

or any restaurant. These people CHOOSE to wait as long they wait.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
60. Isn't social media wonderful?
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

We can now gawk at people from afar -- no need be there, to sneak a peak, or to whisper. Perhaps in the world wide web, everyone will get their 15 minutes of shame. It reminds me of what Sally Brown famously said "All I want is what I have coming to me. All I want is my fair share."

niyad

(113,302 posts)
67. Even in normal times, Mothers' Day is ALWAYS busy, with long lines, long waits, cranky
Wed May 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
May 2020

customers, and harried staff. No thank you.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
79. Look at how many of them were face-to-face...
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:15 PM
May 2020

... without masks, yelling. (Louder talking releases more droplets, as expected, according to medical studies.)

Virtual facepalm:

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
81. Surprised no one has yet posted the video of the assault in Target.
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:17 PM
May 2020

Asshole broke an employee’s arm because he refused to wear a mask when the employees asked him to

 

ChangeNHope

(24 posts)
85. This one?
Wed May 13, 2020, 03:49 PM
May 2020
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/05/11/melee-erupts-in-van-nuys-target-store-after-2-brothers-refuse-to-wear-masks/

I thought I saw a thread about it here before?



The brawl was captured on security video. One of the suspects can be seen throwing a security guard to the ground and punching him repeatedly. Several customers also appear to step in to help.

The two brothers, identified as 31-year-old Phillip Hamilton and 29-year-old Paul Hamilton, were arrested on felony battery charges, police said.

Their bail was set at $50,000 each. A police spokesperson said the brothers are both homeless.

The security guard suffered a broken arm and had to be taken to the hospital, police disclosed.

riversedge

(70,216 posts)
92. Brawl breaks ou at Red Lobster after long wait times on Mother's Day--East York, Pennsylvania.
Wed May 13, 2020, 04:47 PM
May 2020



Brawl breaks out at Red Lobster after long wait times on Mother’s Day


https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/brawl-breaks-out-at-red-lobster-on-mothers-day/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

By Joshua Rhett Miller May 13, 2020 | 1:47pm



Self-proclaimed 'King' ripped over response to girlfriend's refusal to buy him Red Lobster
Drunk woman stole lobster from tank at Red Lobster: cops
Woman sues Red Lobster for getting so drunk she broke a hip

........................................

The footage, shot by a bystander, shows an employee tossing the woman — who was not wearing a mask at the time — out of the restaurant. She tries to force her way back inside while screaming to get her “motherf–king” money back, video shows.


“I want my money refunded!” the woman says.

“You will get it,” one employee replies, the video shows.

The woman then curses out two employees holding her from getting back inside while again repeating that she wants a refund.

“Let me show my bill to get my refund,” the woman repeats, prompting an employee to ask for her name. She then identifies herself before reaching around a male employee and slapping the face of a female worker, setting off a scrum outside the restaurant, video shows.

The angry customer then claims she was the one who was attacked..........................................



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ProfessorGAC

(65,038 posts)
93. And The Staff Had Masks On Their Chins
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:06 PM
May 2020

Face to face, trying to calm the most agitated ones.
Unmasked, impatient, "I'm more important than everyone else" hothead puts multiple people at risk.

desertduck

(213 posts)
97. This is why you order ahead and call to check the status before changing out of your pajamas.
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:35 PM
May 2020

I ordered sushi, was told it was going to be 40min. I showed up 45 min later and it was there ready to go. If he told me an hour or 2, I would have said no and driven my ass to In-n-out where I know things can get done quickly.

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