MSNBC fucking sucks

[maxrandb]

You can't on the one hand point out the stupid fucking lies that Donnie Shit for Brains tells by the minute, and then, on the other hand act as if obamagate is a real fucking thing.

[sop]

1. Yes they can, and they'll be playing the false equivalence game till November.

[Sherman A1]

2. Easy fix

[USALiberal]

3. Someone whines about MSNBC daily, just stop watching! nt

[Aviation91]

14. Thank You!

[maxrandb]

6. Not quite an easy fix

Sure, I can turn it off.

I guess if I quit hearing about the Coronovirus, it's not really infecting my area.

I've never seen a murder, so that must not be a thing.

Hey, brilliant idea. If I just don't see that Donnie Shit for Brains is president, then he can't have any impact on my country.

[Sherman A1]

23. Actually it is exceptionally easy

I remain informed and have not watched MSNBC or CNN for long time. Surprisingly cable infotainment noise does not hold a monopoly on information.

[USALiberal]

32. This post is not going well for you. Nt

[calimary]

19. Let them know how you feel about it!

MSNBC, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY 10112; 1-212-664-4444.

[USALiberal]

4. THEN STOP WATCHING!! nt

[gab13by13]

5. This is why I only watch Nicolle Wallace and Rachel

MSNBC has always done this and I've used this example before.

Fox claims that Obama beats his wife.
CNN says it needs more information.
MSNBC says no he doesn't.

The thing is that they are all talking about Obama beating his wife. MSNBC has always aired right wing narratives just putting a leftist slant to them.

I will watch Don Lemon because of his passion.

[maxrandb]

7. MSNBC would ask

"when did you stop beating your wife"?

[JI7]

21. Yup, Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace and Lawrence O'Donnell

just tell us why he is doing and saying the shit he does.

[Celerity]

8. They just RIPPED to bits the whole Obamagate bullshit. You must be watching a different MSNBC than

I am.

[maxrandb]

11. It doesn't need to be ripped to bits

It's not a real thing.

That's my point. The birth certificate shit got ripped to bits too, but somehow, Americans heard more about that then a hush payment to a pornstar.

This is how the Retrumplicans role. Just giving it ANY airtime on any media other than Faux, OAN and Hate Radio lends it legitimacy.

If the president said clouds were really pipe smoke from God, should legitimate media "examine" whether or not clouds are God smoking?

[Celerity]

16. to not do any reporting on it simply allows people to be exposed to his bullshit w/ no counterpoints

A head in the sand manoeuvre never works.

[gab13by13]

18. The point is that they are talking about it.

It doesn't matter whether they debunk it or not.

[Celerity]

22. They need to talk about it & debunk it. If it bothers you that much, turn the channel or turn off

the telly. No one is forcing you to watch anything.

[gab13by13]

27. I explained what I watch,

it doesn't bother me. It bothers me that people believe that cable news is progressive.

How many examples do I need to provide? Trump is in the news because he is being sued and asked to provide his DNA to prove he raped someone. How many segments has msnbc aired about that? How many segments has msnbc aired about Joe Biden's accuser?

[Celerity]

28. I never claimed MSNBC is progressive. You have me confused with someone else. MSNBC

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is a corporate network that puts a so-called leftish spin/veneer on whatever its parent company deems fit to cover.

Challenge the systemic order too much, yer arse gets cashiered there, like Phil Donahue did over the Iraq War or Dylan Ratigan did over the scams and financial rapes that occurred during and after the 2007-2010 financial crisis. Anyone who expects MSNBC to be a shining white knight for truth and justice overall is bound for a massive disappointment. I operate under no such delusions, so I am seldom disappointed by their actions/inactions.

[sop]

17. I agree. Problem is, Trump is the POTUS, and what he says, no matter how absurd, is "news" and

has to be reported by "responsible journalists." Trump knows how this works, so he exploits it to his advantage. He also understands a minority of viewers will always hear just the initial reporting, ignoring the follow up clarifications.

Reporters should always preface Trump's lunatic pronouncements with the actual facts, warn viewers beforehand that what they are about to hear is bullshit. After four years of Trump's lies it would be irresponsible to do otherwise.

[JI7]

9. Their main point in reporting in should be that Trump is lying

But they think any BS that is thrown out by republicans deserves to be debated as if there is some question to it.

[Nature Man]

10. Does your tv have an ON/OFF power option?

then use it.

It isn't required to watch television.

[maxrandb]

12. I'm sorry, but that's a bullshit response

As I posted above, if I don't see reports of Coronavirus, does that mean it doesn't affect my community?

Trust me. I've tried for 3+ years to "turn off" Donnie Dollhands but he's still the fucking president

[Nature Man]

13. Still doesn't change that you are the only one who has control

over what you consume.

Do yourself a favor.

[USALiberal]

15. No, it is a perfect response! nt

[Sherman A1]

25. It is indeed

a perfect response.

[gab13by13]

20. So how many segments,

and how many days should Obamagate be debunked on msnbc? That time could be spent talking about Trump's failed response to Covid-19.

[uponit7771]

24. Unnnnn, just saw their segment ... they ripped Obamagate as BS

[Hoyt]

26. Honestly believe people are smart enough to know the truth about "Obamagate." Some don't care about

the truth, but that's a different issue.

[MineralMan]

29. Don't like MSNBC? Stop watching it.

Really.

[maxrandb]

33. Here's the problem with the just turn it off folks

Do you think people who regularly watch Faux News or listen to Hate Radio are going to say; "hmm, obamagate... let me tune in to MSNBC and CNN, or other legitimate news and see what this is about"?

Then think of the millions that don't watch Faux or listen to Hate Radio. Wow, MSNBC and legitimate news are talking about this... let me Google it to see what it's about.

Go ahead, those of you that say just shut it off. Google obamagate... I fucking dare you.

When whether or not we are going to live in tyranny is decided by a few thousand votes in Dumbfuckistan Murika, you can't just "turn it off" and expect it not to have impact.

[MineralMan]

38. Look. MSNBC is on all the time. It has many hours a day to fill.

Most of its programming is not actually news. Most is commentary on the news. The network has a range of hosts and guests who participate in that commentary. Each show is somewhat different, since there are different hosts and guests.

News is straight reporting of events. There's very little of that on MSNBC. So, we have commentary programming.

I watch MSNBC for two hours each day, between 4 and 6 PM EDT. That's it. Both of those hours are commentary, not news. I use my own filter when watching those two programs. I don't use MSNBC for news broadcasts. Instead, I watch one of the three broadcast networks for news. Most often it's CBS, which is on in my house at 7 AM CDT and at 5:30 PM CDT. It's pretty much straight reporting, which is how I prefer getting news.

MSNBC is what it is. There are hosts on that network I won't watch at all. Hugh Hewitt, for example. There are guests on the shows I do watch who I don't care for. There are hosts on that network I don't care for.

But, MSNBC is not news. It is commentary on the news. Because of that, I expect to hear commentary with which I disagree. That's fine with me, since I am able to think for myself and do not rely on television commentators to form my opinions for me.

My suggestion that you just shut it off if you don't like it is made because you are labeling the entire network's programming as wrong. It is not. Some of it slants in one way or another, but that's the nature of commentary on the news. I'm perfectly capable of listening to commentary with which I disagree. I judge it based on my own knowledge of the events of the day.

MSNBC IS NOT NEWS! I don't watch it for news. I watch it for its varying commentary on the news. If you only want to hear what you like to hear, you may have to turn MSNBC off.

[sop]

40. Just turn it off, ignore it, go somewhere else for the news...that's not going to solve the problem.

Reacting strongly, complaining publicly, posting on social media and demanding change from corporate media is the only solution. The more people bring this sort of thing to their attention, the greater the chance it will change. It's the only reason some media outlets are even using the word "lie" these days in relation to Trump's bullshit pronouncements.

[still_one]

30. Yup. Except for a few hosts they can't help their both side risks. Ruble was just trying to push

The Burr insider trading equivalent to Feinstein’s husband

I rarely watch Msnbs

[quickesst]

31. this is kind of lame

By saying MSNBC sucks, a person is saying that Rachel Maddow sucks, Joy Reid sucks, Lawrence O'Donnell sucks, Nicole Wallace sucks, and so on. What is with this wholesale broad blanket syndrome that infects Democratic Underground? The networks are not the only victims of this bullshit. There are several entities and geographic regions that are victims of this crap. If one person pisses someone off, they should say that. Why condemn an entire organization over one's dissatisfaction with one or two people?

[malaise]

34. Agree

Rec

[USALiberal]

36. Not true.....

Front page of MSNBC website.....
“What Trump calls 'Obamagate' is really a bogus conspiracy theory“

[sop]

35. When print journalism was the primary source of news, responsible newspapers always followed

certain journalistic standards. All real newspapers followed these guidelines and most of them still do, but cable tv news is different.

The first paragraph to a "news" article was always of particular importance since most readers seldom read past the first or second paragraphs of any story. The opening paragraph was supposed to contain just the pertinent facts, the classic "5 Ws and the H": who, what, when, where, why and how. Nothing more, nothing less. The "lede" is supposed to tell a reader only what the story is about - just the facts - then invites them to read further, for additional analysis and context.

Cable news always begins every story with their typical breathless "Breaking News!" bullshit hype: "Trump accuses Obama of committing the greatest crime in the history of the world!" They usually follow that statement with a video clip of Trump saying the same thing.

After putting that lie out there, some media sources will start getting into the real facts of the story and providing analysis. However, even reports that do provide clarification and context, fail to provide this important information in the opening "paragraph," where it should be.

[onecaliberal]

37. Turn it off. It's not worth it. You can stream the Rachel and Lawrence.

Or whomever you like. I finally had that realization a while back. It’s all trump tv all the time.

[Baclava]

39. They know dragging Obama into hearings to testify would send their ratings sky high

News is a vulture business