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underpants

(182,620 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:47 AM May 2020

Trump shows off his "plan". I just knew this wasn't going to go well

I saw a brief clip of this yesterday and instantly knew this was going to blow up in their face. I didn’t even have the sound turned up but I said out loud “Oh no. Please tell me this isn’t cover for ignoring the Obama playbook”. And then I laughed.

Today we learned that their plans specific to daycare and bars are 1 page Yes/No brainers that everyone already knows.




The New York Post has the video which is HILARIOUS. It looks like Trump and McEnany are either taking kids on a field trip or the worst tour guides ever.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/trump-kayleigh-mcenany-tout-administrations-pandemic-preparedness-plan/

REVEALED: Trump's pandemic 'plan' that press secretary waved at reporters was savaged in wargame report she was also holding - which warned of medical supply shortages, inadequate funding, and federal confusion just months before outbreak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8321681/Pandemic-plan-Donald-Trump-claims-actually-revealed.html


Trump claimed Thursday that he did have a playbook to battle the pandemic
He had press secretary Kayleigh McEnany carrying binders to prove his point
One was a January 2018 plan titled 'Pandemic Crisis Action Plan Ver. 2.0'
She also held after-action report from 2019 'Crimson Contagion' simulation
The wargame simulated a deadly influenza pandemic originating in China
Report found severe deficiencies in federal preparedness for an outbreak
Warned of confusion in federal response over agency responsibilities
Predicted shortfall of masks and ventilators due to inadequate supply chains
Bluntly stated there was 'insufficient funding' designated for a pandemic

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Trump shows off his "plan". I just knew this wasn't going to go well (Original Post) underpants May 2020 OP
Well, then SHOW US YOUR PLAN!! NOT JUST THE BINDER! YOUR PLAN FOR 7 WEEKS WAS TO PLAY IT DOWN riversedge May 2020 #1
That was the give away for me underpants May 2020 #6
I saw that too. panader0 May 2020 #22
+ agree nt iluvtennis May 2020 #30
Of course he has binders, his girl carries them for him. jaxexpat May 2020 #55
Just like in 4th grade. The most important part of a student's geography report was always coti May 2020 #65
Really stupid people ..nt Jarqui May 2020 #2
One Of These Days RobinA May 2020 #58
We have and are seeing their plan in real time GusBob May 2020 #3
underpants: It looks like they just replaced "October 2019" with "January 2020" on the cover Alex4Martinez May 2020 #4
Thank you. I hadn't seen much about it here. Notice something? underpants May 2020 #9
Damning indeed central scrutinizer May 2020 #16
Yup, his own Crimson Contagion report from last year tells him he needs to step the fuck up. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #18
+1 Baitball Blogger May 2020 #32
Really. It's better to just not than to underpants May 2020 #43
I'm beginning to think those still hanging on w him are just phoning it in. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #60
Well, the one from October does say "Draft" in the title William Seger May 2020 #36
Like some jerkhole telling a rape victim to "relax and enjoy it." OMGWTF May 2020 #38
You mean something like, "Nice and easy, nice and easy, just relax"? Alex4Martinez May 2020 #61
The press secretary looks like the kid who wrote a one livetohike May 2020 #5
Yes. I had so many thoughts going underpants May 2020 #7
It deserves the DU photoshop treatment. I have no clue livetohike May 2020 #47
"I did TOO read the book!"... JHB May 2020 #8
Notice how they did it on the way out underpants May 2020 #14
Kayleigh McEnany has sold her soul she went to and got degrees from Georgetown, Oxford, and ... Botany May 2020 #10
Her feet look so ugly in those shoes. kimbutgar May 2020 #33
She looks like a blow-up sex doll from Spencer's Gifts. OMGWTF May 2020 #39
I like your user name on DU ! kimbutgar May 2020 #41
Ha. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #45
But she is a "Christian Sex Doll" Botany May 2020 #51
THAT got degrees from Georgetown, Oxford, and Harvard Law??? calimary May 2020 #52
I was wrong she attended Oxford but her B.A. is from Georgetown Botany May 2020 #54
Binders full of.....NOTHING MoonRiver May 2020 #11
Nostalgic for the good old days central scrutinizer May 2020 #21
Life was so simple then. MoonRiver May 2020 #34
It's always easier to write a playbook afterthe fact nykym May 2020 #12
That's exactly what HHS Secretary Azar was there to say gratuitous May 2020 #25
She dashed by me in painted-on jeans... Croney May 2020 #13
The vacancies and gaps in her head are far more troubling than her thighs... magicarpet May 2020 #19
That's for sure. Croney May 2020 #24
Could it be that she wore Scarsdale May 2020 #48
Well,.. that is a marketable commodity as any Capitalist would say,... magicarpet May 2020 #69
Caribbean Queen. lol 😂 iluvtennis May 2020 #31
I believe that binder was full of women at one point. NT mwooldri May 2020 #15
You think they True Blue American May 2020 #53
Seems legit Shermann May 2020 #17
Oooh fancy. Yellow sharpie underpants May 2020 #42
Link to the Obama Playbook here: Alex4Martinez May 2020 #20
Surprised they didn't boot a PC up with a Jan 2020 date and create files to show it was done then. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #23
Bullshit. spanone May 2020 #26
Someone has to know underpants May 2020 #46
Wow Donny that's so impressive Blue Owl May 2020 #27
we arent as stupid as she is... samnsara May 2020 #28
The Papers From the UK Often Do a Better Job Reporting on Trump Issues than US Papers Indykatie May 2020 #29
This is the Daily Mail underpants May 2020 #40
Trump is sick in the head bucolic_frolic May 2020 #35
blond bimbo deftly crawls up tRumps ass jdanield May 2020 #37
Ms. McAninny should Scarsdale May 2020 #44
That's not a plan ... aggiesal May 2020 #49
In case you haven't seen this underpants May 2020 #59
The Masks of the Crimson Contagion Buns_of_Fire May 2020 #50
The pages inside probably all were blank. greatauntoftriplets May 2020 #56
I get the feeling anything they show off is going to be snort May 2020 #57
Little Kayleigh sez everyone but Trump had a plan. area51 May 2020 #62
Too funny underpants May 2020 #66
On Twitter, #OperationWarpSpeed is trending. Jamastiene May 2020 #63
Of course it wasn't going to go well. Caliman73 May 2020 #64
Spot on underpants May 2020 #67
Definitely. Accurate summary. Caliman73 May 2020 #68
You Forgot A Couple Things ProfessorGAC May 2020 #70
Very true. Caliman73 May 2020 #71
Well The Answer To Your Trick Question... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #72
Sorry, I assume rationality... Caliman73 May 2020 #73
Of Course, You're Correct! ProfessorGAC May 2020 #74
No worries. I calm down very quickly. Caliman73 May 2020 #75
Question, Kayleigh? Qutzupalotl May 2020 #76
"We designed this very perfect binder! And no, you can't see what's inside!" struggle4progress May 2020 #77
This is a societal setback: They're all as stupid as they look. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #78

underpants

(182,620 posts)
6. That was the give away for me
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:59 AM
May 2020

Oooh a binder.
Me: oh no. Not a binder.

I noticed the Obama playbook was just clipped together.
See how ours is so shiny and professional?!?!?

I’m not kidding. The visual alone told me everything I needed to know. It reminded me of the table covered with files that Trump used during the campaign to show how complicated his tax returns are. Or when he pulled the letter out of his jacket.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
55. Of course he has binders, his girl carries them for him.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

Some binders of women, some binders of men and some empty binders.
Republicans are really focused on binders.

coti

(4,612 posts)
65. Just like in 4th grade. The most important part of a student's geography report was always
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:04 PM
May 2020

the report cover.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
58. One Of These Days
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:00 PM
May 2020

when I watch one of those clips my hand is going to tighten around my mouse and I'm going to smash it right through the monitor.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
4. underpants: It looks like they just replaced "October 2019" with "January 2020" on the cover
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:58 AM
May 2020

It's damning, they KNEW!

Some links:

Read this document from October, see page 6 cover:
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6824-2019-10-key-findings-and-after/05bd797500ea55be0724/optimized/full.pdf

And this NYT article:

WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

The draft report, marked “not to be disclosed,” laid out in stark detail repeated cases of “confusion” in the exercise. Federal agencies jockeyed over who was in charge. State officials and hospitals struggled to figure out what kind of equipment was stockpiled or available. Cities and states went their own ways on school closings.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html


This doesn't help their case.

K/R

Thanks for the post.

underpants

(182,620 posts)
9. Thank you. I hadn't seen much about it here. Notice something?
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM
May 2020

I noticed that at least they took the step of printing out a new cover not just scribbling over it with a sharpie.

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
16. Damning indeed
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:15 AM
May 2020

Drumpf has repeatedly blamed Obama for the “empty shelves”. Even assuming this ludicrous claim has any truth, we know that they did a simulation in October. You’d think they would have discovered the empty shelves then and acted. But nothing was done (and is still not being done).

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
18. Yup, his own Crimson Contagion report from last year tells him he needs to step the fuck up.
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:20 AM
May 2020

Last edited Fri May 15, 2020, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Not in January of this year but last October.

Are they batshit crazy putting it out?

This is priceless!

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6824-2019-10-key-findings-and-after/05bd797500ea55be0724/optimized/full.pdf

underpants

(182,620 posts)
43. Really. It's better to just not than to
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:50 AM
May 2020

I get the feeling this was Trump throwing a fit and wanting to see HIS PLAYBOOK. They grabbed what they must have thought was close enough and printed a new cover and put it in binders. I mean seriously. As if no one was going to follow up on that.

I don’t know if Mitch flat out lying about the Obama playbook even existed spurred this on. I really can’t imagine what they put out yesterday being even a week in the making. But then who the hell could have really imagined the whole Clustertrump being THIS BAD.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
60. I'm beginning to think those still hanging on w him are just phoning it in.
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

There must be a whole lotta people rolling their eyes.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
36. Well, the one from October does say "Draft" in the title
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:33 AM
May 2020

... but I'm willing to bet that the reason this is just now surfacing is that Trump & Co were 100% oblivious to it. Anyway, we'll have to see if the report concluded that we should just let the pandemic "wash over us" and "ride it like a cowboy."

livetohike

(22,123 posts)
5. The press secretary looks like the kid who wrote a one
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:58 AM
May 2020

paragraph book report the day it was due, but is trying to pass it off as substantial. They really think we’re that stupid. It’s all so pathetic.

underpants

(182,620 posts)
7. Yes. I had so many thoughts going
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:01 AM
May 2020

and I didn’t want to make the post too long. Trump is standing there like he’s in the group project and she (with her purse mind you) just ran in with what they slapped together at the last minute.

Too funny. The video is a classic.

livetohike

(22,123 posts)
47. It deserves the DU photoshop treatment. I have no clue
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

how to photoshop, but you’re idea is a great one .

JHB

(37,156 posts)
8. "I did TOO read the book!"...
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:02 AM
May 2020

...proceeds to give book report on the Classic Comics version, can't answer questions about parts the comic skipped.

underpants

(182,620 posts)
14. Notice how they did it on the way out
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
May 2020

I’m guessing they were leaving for his speechify thing in Pennsylvania. It both added to the last minute element and gave them a “oh sorry cant answer questions right now” excuse.

The worst part is that they used a report that spelled how unprepared they were and predicted pretty much everything that was going to happen in this particular part of the entire F’ing Clustertrump.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
10. Kayleigh McEnany has sold her soul she went to and got degrees from Georgetown, Oxford, and ...
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:09 AM
May 2020

... Harvard Law and now she is pimping lies for the biggest fuck up in America's history. She is on
record as saying that she makes a lot of money by being pretty and promoting right wing propaganda.

$250 shoes, designer bag $500 (guess), a custom made suit, and $5,000 + on rings, jewelry, make up,
and hair but in the end she is just as phony as Trump's pandemic response plan.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
33. Her feet look so ugly in those shoes.
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:15 AM
May 2020

Sorry that outfit is unattractive and she is so plastic looking.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
51. But she is a "Christian Sex Doll"
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:16 PM
May 2020



OMG I just saw her and Trump's statements on his pandemic response plans and after action report from
Jan. of 2020. I guarantee that the inside of those binders were blank.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/trump-kayleigh-mcenany-tout-administrations-pandemic-preparedness-plan/

calimary

(81,110 posts)
52. THAT got degrees from Georgetown, Oxford, and Harvard Law???
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

Seriously?

Doesn’t speak well for those institutions.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
54. I was wrong she attended Oxford but her B.A. is from Georgetown
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:30 PM
May 2020

From wiki ..... she is an act for money .... as cold blooded as they come. No doubt those binders
of Trump's plans and after action report were filled with blank paper.

Born and raised in Tampa, Florida, McEnany is the daughter of commercial roofing company owner Michael McEnany and Leanne McEnany.[3] McEnany was educated at the Academy of the Holy Names,[4] a Catholic preparatory school in Tampa. After leaving school, she majored in international politics at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service in Washington, D.C.[5], during which she studied abroad at St Edmund Hall, Oxford.[6][7] While at Oxford, she was taught politics by future British Shadow Home Secretary, Nick Thomas-Symonds.[8][6] After graduating from Georgetown, McEnany spent three years as a producer on the Mike Huckabee Show.[5]

From there, McEnany enrolled at the University of Miami School of Law, before transferring to Harvard Law School.[2] Huckabee said that "one of the reasons [McEnany] went on to law school was because she didn't see she was going to have an on-air opportunity at Fox anytime soon."[2] At the Miami School of Law, McEnany was a recipient of the Bruce J. Winick Award for Excellence, a scholarship awarded to students in the top 1% of their class.[5] She graduated from Harvard in 2016.[2]

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
21. Nostalgic for the good old days
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:26 AM
May 2020

When we had Binders full of Women. Nothing life and death important there.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
12. It's always easier to write a playbook afterthe fact
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:12 AM
May 2020

That way you can address all the accusations with more bullshit.
And of course this one is a blank book with a spiffy cover.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. That's exactly what HHS Secretary Azar was there to say
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:33 AM
May 2020

In "rebuttal" to Dr. Bright, Azar popped out to claim that everything Dr. Bright complained about had been addressed by the administration. What Azar conveniently left out was the fact that the administration started acting months late, and still wasn't putting together a coherent plan that people can use and depend on. The major sticking point for any plan, of course, is that it has to explain why even the simplest things weren't done sooner, or suggest uncomfortable questions about Trump's failures.

Croney

(4,657 posts)
13. She dashed by me in painted-on jeans...
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
May 2020

(Apologies to Billy Ocean.)

I was just pondering how I would look in those pants. You do not want to know.

This is not bashing her looks. I've never had a thigh gap.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
48. Could it be that she wore
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

out that gap, while applying for this "job"? Professional liar? Slept her way to the "top"? Kushner got into Harvard the old fashioned way - daddy made a large donation after Jared flunked the test. Maybe Ms. McA-Ninny used her womanly wiles to get her seat?

magicarpet

(14,119 posts)
69. Well,.. that is a marketable commodity as any Capitalist would say,...
Fri May 15, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

.... what,..... are you a socialist ?



Price tags stick to everything,... don't you know ?

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
20. Link to the Obama Playbook here:
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:24 AM
May 2020

Lacks the glossy cover page but filled with cautionary information that was ignored by this administration.

Also ignored, their own October report.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf

spanone

(135,792 posts)
26. Bullshit.
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
May 2020

We're supposed to believe this from an administration that is rife with lies about their lies.

underpants

(182,620 posts)
46. Someone has to know
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:56 AM
May 2020

See post #43 this smells like appeasing a Trump fit.

With the press, just the WH press, and their relationship being what it is how could they POSSIBLY think this was a good idea?

As I stated elsewhere, it looks like they did this on the way to the event in PA. Drop it, Trump’s happy, act like this didn’t happen, Trump will dismiss questions about it as “nasty” and SpokesBarbie will have some smartassed demeaning contrived BS ready when she’s asked about it.

jdanield

(16 posts)
37. blond bimbo deftly crawls up tRumps ass
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:34 AM
May 2020

what #TheCultOfDeath is calling insufficient blah blah blah - judge for yourself

the pandemic playbook Obama left and now supposedly didn't exist -
download all 69pp, here
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819258/Playbook.pdf

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
49. That's not a plan ...
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:12 PM
May 2020

that's an After Action Report.
It's cover date is January 2020, so no doubt it came out on Jan. 31, 2020

A "Plan" comes after studying the After Action Report.

But we had to throw away the 60+ page Obama Plan, because ...
well it was Obama's.

Thanks Obama!

snort

(2,334 posts)
57. I get the feeling anything they show off is going to be
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:58 PM
May 2020

back-dated phony bologna. Ran a sim last year my ass. It's all bullshit.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
63. On Twitter, #OperationWarpSpeed is trending.
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:30 PM
May 2020

I despise Trump and ALL of his hangers on. They are the reason evolution takes millions of years. It takes them that long to finally die out so the rest of us can move forward a tiny little bit more.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
64. Of course it wasn't going to go well.
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:55 PM
May 2020

Here is my take:

What is in the plan is almost irrelevant. Trump and McEnany said they had something ready to go in AUGUST. Okay, they trashed President Obama's plan and had their own (yes, I know it is a lie).

Here is the thing though, let's grant them that they had a plan. YOU HAD A PLAN THAT ALLOWED THE VIRUS TO SPREAD TO 1.4 MILLION AMERICANS AND KILL OVER 85,000!

They own the shitty response. If they had a plan, was it to wait to do anything other than an ineffective travel restriction for over 6 weeks, HAVE NO PPE, NO Ventilators, and NO WORKING TEST? Was it in the playbook to play states against each other then have the Federal government STEAL supplies procured by the states you left hanging?

Like I said, let them tout their stupid "playbook", then the response is all theirs. Either the playbook sucks ass OR they completely failed in their response. Those are the only two options with a playbook. No more blaming others. "You had a playbook, what happened? Why are more than 85,000 people dead in 2 months with YOUR playbook?"

underpants

(182,620 posts)
67. Spot on
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:23 PM
May 2020

We had a plan.
It must have sucked.
No it was great. The best.
Why didn’t you follow it?
We did.
THIS was the plan?
Yes. We have a binder too.
Your plan sucked.
It was Obama’s fault.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
68. Definitely. Accurate summary.
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:37 PM
May 2020

To any logical person, it appears that he is hanging the response around his own neck with his "playbook" that he had all along, since August of last year.

He will definitely deny responsibility for any of the mess ups. That is just how he works. He has a perfect playbook, even though it has resulted in the most infections and the most deaths than any other country and lagging in testing. He is delusional.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
70. You Forgot A Couple Things
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:08 PM
May 2020

The terrible plan did nothing to prevent 20% market losses & 36 million people on unemployment.
Yep, it's not a very good plan.
Bad plan, worse execution.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
71. Very true.
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:17 PM
May 2020

I didn't even think to go to the economic effects. I was focusing mainly on the human costs (though losing your job and savings is also a human cost).

Bottom line is that if he wants to claim that he has a plan (or had one since August of last year), then he is admitting that he is responsible for the outcomes since then, for this country.

The media/press really need to start hammering him about this. Either he is responsible or he is not. If he had/has a plan,then what the hell happened? Did he lose 85,000 lives in 2 months by incompetence or through malice? Those are the choices. Did the plan fail? OR Did he fail the plan? Those are his choices for an answer.

85,000 in 2 months AND still counting, is not acceptable.


Again, if President Obama losing 12,100 people to H1N1 over the span of an ENTIRE YEAR, was a disaster to Trump, then what is losing more than 7 times that much in 1/6th the time period? How can he, with a straight face, compare those two sets of facts and view himself favorably?

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
72. Well The Answer To Your Trick Question...
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:21 PM
May 2020

...is 42 times worse! 7x the deaths divided by 1/6th.
And counting!
The answer to your second question about viewing himself favorably is easy!
He's nuts!

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
73. Sorry, I assume rationality...
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:27 PM
May 2020

Not aimed at you AT ALL ProfessorGAC. I have mad respect for you and your posts.

Of course Trump is nuts! Literally, he is clinically deviant and is a danger to others. He should be as we say in California 5150'd. That is the statue in our Welfare and Institutions Code for involuntary detention for psychiatric disabilities.

Trump and his followers would dance around the questions I posed, would come up with nonsensical answers, and would believe that the "owned" me. They are just that nuts.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
74. Of Course, You're Correct!
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:33 PM
May 2020

Chill out, and have a pleasant evening! Can't get too flipped out over what we can't control.

We can't fix stupid!

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
75. No worries. I calm down very quickly.
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:40 PM
May 2020

Learned long ago that you can't dwell on what you can't control. Also learned that there is very little that we can actually control.

Have a good one!

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