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This is all that I needed to make me comfortable with Joe (Original Post) Under The Radar May 2020 OP
Maybe if the Bush Klan was held accountable for their lies that got us doc03 May 2020 #1
++++ HAB911 May 2020 #2
Yepp I fault Obama for not exposing the Republican party on that. gibraltar72 May 2020 #3
That is all on Nancy who announced that she wouldn't impeach Under The Radar May 2020 #5
By 2006 the MSM had decided that we'd moved on. jaxexpat May 2020 #10
+1,000,000 SoonerPride May 2020 #6
Yup. We let them get away with it. tecelote May 2020 #14
All the pardoning will take place in the lame duck time House of Roberts May 2020 #4
Agreed! Catch2.2 May 2020 #7
Correct! In addition to prosecuting Trump & Co. ... Under The Radar May 2020 #16
Amen! Catch2.2 May 2020 #17
That works. It also works that Joe has never advised anyone to drink/inject bleach... abqtommy May 2020 #8
That was a welcome surprise for me as well Bettie May 2020 #9
K & R warmfeet May 2020 #11
.....The Last Word..... titanicdave May 2020 #12
Stacie was my choice for VP from day one. colorado_ufo May 2020 #13
:) I appreciated that, but it's an easy pledge, followed by: Hortensis May 2020 #15
KR! Cha May 2020 #18
sorry, was it expected he would do that? Skittles May 2020 #19
To go after a previous administration for crimes that they commit? Under The Radar May 2020 #20
they will walk free Skittles May 2020 #21
There are going to be independent prosecutors and state attorneys general go after him.... Under The Radar May 2020 #22
He's a Dem and he knows how to do the job? Iggo May 2020 #23

doc03

(35,324 posts)
1. Maybe if the Bush Klan was held accountable for their lies that got us
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:42 AM
May 2020

in the Iraq war we wouldn't have Trump now.

gibraltar72

(7,501 posts)
3. Yepp I fault Obama for not exposing the Republican party on that.
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:48 AM
May 2020

They would have been dead for 20 years if we would have looked in the rearview mirror just a little bit.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
5. That is all on Nancy who announced that she wouldn't impeach
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:39 AM
May 2020

....Bush when the Democrats took the House in 2006

jaxexpat

(6,817 posts)
10. By 2006 the MSM had decided that we'd moved on.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:56 PM
May 2020

The long shot horse race for 2008 was already their current fad focus. Nancy said she wouldn't impeach because she didn't want to say she COULDN'T impeach. The general public would have been outraged that she was trying to kill the "job creator". Remember, it wasn't until 2007-08 that the reality of w's recession was perceived by most people.
I was disappointed then as well but I knew that the spin machines wouldn't be able to focus on unpopular facts. They were busy trying to choose the candidates they would lionize or condemn. Their self-importance still amazes me, even today.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
14. Yup. We let them get away with it.
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:17 PM
May 2020

Then, we're surprised they do it again.

They all have to be held accountable.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
4. All the pardoning will take place in the lame duck time
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:10 AM
May 2020

after the election.

If William Barr tells Trump who to pardon, as he did for Bush 41, then tells him to resign so Pence can pardon him, it'll all be a done deal.

We'll have to depend on state prosecutions to bring Trump down.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
7. Agreed!
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

This helps a lot! I still am nervous that we will hear the "It's time for the nation to come together and heal" crap. This criminal needs to be held accountable for his crimes so that at the very least, it doesn't happen again!

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
16. Correct! In addition to prosecuting Trump & Co. ...
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:14 PM
May 2020

...there must be legislation that strengthens democracy against the possibility of tyrannical leaders, ensure that the justice department is truly independent, and the judicial branch fairly balanced.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
12. .....The Last Word.....
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:09 PM
May 2020

....with Lawrence O'Donnell was amazing last night......especially the fact that Vice President Biden invited Stacie Abrams onto the show...I was totally impressed with both of them......so refreshing from #45 and his blathering.....

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
13. Stacie was my choice for VP from day one.
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

She has the brains, fire, determination, and courage to stand up to anything. She would be a perfect counterpoint to Joe's layback style. Her energy would be the fuel that Joe's campaign needs. She would be the wind at his back.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) I appreciated that, but it's an easy pledge, followed by:
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:36 PM
May 2020

'“It’s hands-off completely. Look, the attorney general of the United States is not the president’s lawyer.'

Not under Democratic presidents for sure. Once confirmed by the senate after being nominated by the president, the AG will be expected to represent the people. The senate's the kicker, though.

Let's just hope Biden's broadly reassuring coattails will help create a Democratic majority in the senate so corrupt McConnell and gang aren't still controlling the senate and we don't have to name someone they'll let through. There are a lot of criminals in that gang, and whoever that was would be chosen to protect them amap.

The party with the power charts the future.

Btw, remembering Nixon, Nixon had just been resoundingly reelected by "the people" in a 49-state sweep, who didn't want him in prison, and his pardoner, Ford, was a Republican. Very different situation than Biden would face.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
20. To go after a previous administration for crimes that they commit?
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:33 PM
May 2020

Biden was part of an admin that let Bush and Cheney off the hook for lying our way into 2 never ending wars and the war crimes associated with them. Nancy states that impeachment was off the table when she became speaker in 2006.
My fear has been that Trump and Co. will walk free without punishment for their crimes.
As of now, Joe said that he isn’t going to pardon Trump. Not a full throated answer, but it is in the right direction.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
22. There are going to be independent prosecutors and state attorneys general go after him....
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:49 PM
May 2020

Walk free? Likely, but not unscathed.
If Trump loses he will continue to sow division by running his mouth through whatever news source or social media that will carry him, and those he threw under the bridge and pissed on will come out of the woodwork to reveal their stories once the see that Trump can’t hurt them anymore. In the end will be like OJ, free but with no admirers, which in Trumps mind is torture.

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