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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 03:54 PM May 2020

Progressives to buck party by voting against $3T coronavirus relief bill

At least four progressive House Democrats have announced plans to vote against the $3 trillion coronavirus relief package (The Heroes Act ) their party will bring forward for a vote Friday. Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) said in a statement Friday that she will be voting "no" on the bill because among other things, the legislation does not guarantee “affordable and accessible health care for everyone”.

“At the core, our response from Congress must match the true scale of this devastating crisis. The Heroes Act —while it contains many important provisions — simply fails to do that,” said Jayapal, who co-chairs the Progressive Caucus. Jayapal is also part of the “Unity Task Force” focused on pushing progressive ideas in former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.

The bill includes premium subsidies so that workers can maintain their health insurance coverage if they are eligible for COBRA, a program that allows employees who have been laid off to stay on their old employer's health plan.

Fourteen House Democrats — nine of whom are members of the Progressive Caucus — voted against the procedural rule allowing the HEROES Act to come to the floor for a vote ... Democratic Reps. Ro Khanna (Calif.) and Ilhan Omar (Minn.) also indicated on Twitter that they would vote “no” on the legislation, citing similar concerns as Jayapal.

A spokesperson for New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who was the only Democrat to vote "no" on the interim stimulus bill in April, told the Huffington Post that she will be a "no" vote on the HEROES Act as well.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/498034-progressives-to-buck-party-by-voting-against-3t-relief-bill

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Progressives to buck party by voting against $3T coronavirus relief bill (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2020 OP
How Is This Useful? ProfessorGAC May 2020 #1
At least one repug is voting for it. Maybe more. Who knows. jimfields33 May 2020 #5
Well So Much For The Out... ProfessorGAC May 2020 #6
When are they voting? jimfields33 May 2020 #7
It gives the Senate cover. Demsrule86 May 2020 #9
Good Point ProfessorGAC May 2020 #14
Imbeciles. Squinch May 2020 #2
Cutting noses off to spite faces? Jamastiene May 2020 #3
A big f.u. from all these people it would help survive. This is pathetic Budi May 2020 #4
Thank you for the Key Aspects, Budi.. very helpful. Cha May 2020 #18
This makes no sense, let good and perfect be the enemy of adequate when adequate is the commodity? uponit7771 May 2020 #8
They can afford to be able to vote no Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #10
The point is Who all they are willing to disregard with their No Vote. Budi May 2020 #12
I am beyond furious. eom sheshe2 May 2020 #11
Wonder how AOC's "no" vote will play in one of hottest hotspots in NYC... brooklynite May 2020 #13
The child care increase amount alone, surely would have helped some in her district. Budi May 2020 #16
As I said in another thread ismnotwasm May 2020 #15
Does she have a primary opponent? Blue_true May 2020 #19
Until the Speaker calls each of them in for a short chat eleny May 2020 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2020 #20

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
1. How Is This Useful?
Fri May 15, 2020, 03:58 PM
May 2020

I get the sentiment, but such a provision won't get through the Senate and it wouldn't get signed by the usurper.
I think there's a glaring timing issue.
Unless....
this is a broad political ploy so it's harder for the Senate to claim politics if a few dems vote against it. But, that's a little CT-ish.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. Cutting noses off to spite faces?
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:07 PM
May 2020

I disagree with their decision. We need something....*anything* at this point. We'll be damned lucky to get anything else with stimulus for average Americans like the first time. The longer they put off anything that helps average Americans, the less likely they are to get anything at all through. We were damned lucky to get anything the the first time around.

Meanwhile, in other countries, they are giving citizens at least a temporary UBI and healthcare. America's government is stingy as fuck. I admire progressives for wanting more, but we won't get it under the current circumstances.

Pragmatism, as much as I hated it at one time, and as long and as hard as I fought against it, might be our only hope. Yes, I said that. I finally realized cutting off our noses to spite our faces doesn't get us anywhere. There has GOT to be a better way.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. A big f.u. from all these people it would help survive. This is pathetic
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:26 PM
May 2020

Glad these elected Reps are showing their true colors ffor Americans who are slipping off the rolls of a even meager livable existance.

GOOD TO KNOW WHERE THEY REALLY STAND
Guess all these people included in the Heros Act don't f'ing matter so much afterall.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213441643


ALL THESE PEOPLE:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/05/15/house-votes-today-another-1200-stimulus-check-200-billion-for-hazard-pay-extended-unemployment/amp/


Key aspects of The Heroes Act:
*$200 billion for essential workers to get hazard pay.
*$1 trillion for state, local and tribal governments to help pay “vital workers like first responders, health workers, and teachers” who could be on verge of losing their jobs.

Here’s a breakdown of estimated allocations the states and territories would receive.
*A second stimulus check for Americans in the amount of $1,200 (this would be a one-time payment as with the first stimulus check). However, instead of $500 for children, families would get $1,200 for each household member up to a max of $6,000.
*$175 billion in housing assistance to help renters and homeowners with rent, mortgage and utility payments.
*$75 billion for coronavirus testing, tracing and isolation efforts.
An extension of the COVID-19 unemployment program providing that the extra $600 per week benefit would last until January 2021 instead of expiring in July 2020 as it currently stands.

The Heroes Act also modifies or expands the following programs and policies as listed here on Congress.gov.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6800?s=1&r=48

*Medicare and Medicaid,
*health insurance,
*broadband service,
*medical product supplies,
*immigration,
*student loans and financial aid,
*the federal workforce,
*prisons,
*veterans benefits,
*consumer protection requirements,
*the U.S. Postal Service,
*federal elections,
*aviation and railroad workers, and
*pension and retirement plans.

What aspects do most Americans and employees care about right now?
Americans—including the employed and unemployed—mostly want more stimulus checks, and they’ve had something to say about a second one-time stimulus check and the prospect of getting monthly stimulus checks.

WalletHub conducted a survey where a full 84% of respondents indicated a strong need and desire for more stimulus checks. And CNBC/Change Research conducted a poll where Americans living in political swing states expressed that people should get monthly stimulus checks that continue throughout the pandemic. Coronavirus has greatly increased financial and economic anxiety, and most respondents report that they will be completely broke within three months or less.


Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
10. They can afford to be able to vote no
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:36 PM
May 2020

"Voting against the procedural rule does not guarantee they will vote "no" on the bill. Even if all 14 members vote against the bill, it will still pass the House and go to the Senate, where lawmakers have declared it "dead on arrival."

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. The point is Who all they are willing to disregard with their No Vote.
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:43 PM
May 2020

That is the issue that is so insulting.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
13. Wonder how AOC's "no" vote will play in one of hottest hotspots in NYC...
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:46 PM
May 2020

...a month before her Primary.

(Elmhurst Hospital is right on the edge of her district)

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
16. The child care increase amount alone, surely would have helped some in her district.
Fri May 15, 2020, 04:57 PM
May 2020

Did they even consider the plight of the people hanging on to hope that they could exist a bit longer, until this situation may turn positive for them?

There is so much good in that bill for so many people.

They owe it to the people who gave them their voice, to explain how it was determined that their own month to month existance now doesn't matter.




Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Does she have a primary opponent?
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:31 PM
May 2020

Do you plan to sit out a General with her versus a republican? If she can't be successfully beaten in a primary by a more sane Dem, I would certainly swallow hard and support her in the General.

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