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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wonder if Trump's kids know
how much they are going to lose socially?
Ivanka, Eric and Don Jr. seemed like they had a vibrant social life in NY. I don't see that coming back; I think they will suffer social shunning, and probably are already. They have been pandering to trashy people publicly, and that will follow them.
The Trump name is already "mud" around the world, will there be enough wealthy people to sustain their properties? Even if one of the hotels were in an exact location we wanted to visit on vacation, I personally would not want to stay there. I would rather stay in a youth hostel with a bunk bed than attempt to sleep in a property branded with that name.
I know the two boys aren't smart-- but, Ivanka seems to be the smartest one of that group. She understand "branding." Personally, I think Tiffany is trying to distance herself already.
Why aren't they trying to distance themselves now? More than likely, it's already too late. Is it possible that they are surrounded by sycophants so tightly that they cannot see their own future, and self interests?
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)essme
(1,207 posts)that's already a given--
Loss of social circles for the wealthy is a very big deal.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)essme
(1,207 posts)they are heading to prison. We do know that whatever happens, their future looks pretty bleak.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)I won't be surprised if some cowardice rears it head here though either.
I saw that reply btw, no big deal.
Good luck!
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Tiger8
(432 posts)Psychopaths are ultimately destructive because their lack of conscience has unintended consequences.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The facade has to crash eventually.
Barron knows things!
Tiger8
(432 posts)The kids have never been popular with the meatheads. Except maybe for Ivanka, because if you dont think Ivanka is hot then you might be suspected of being gay or otherwise not a normal American. And Don and Eric might be welcomed into the Staten Island chapters of the KKK, Proud Boys or 8Chan.
Yes, Im sure Barron has eavesdropped and hopefully one day will spill the beans on this terrible family. If Malaria has been a good mother to him, she has taught him not to be anything like his father.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)It's exhausting, I'm not taking it to heart, mocking mode engaged.
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)I read an article a year or so ago in which it quoted Ivanka complaining that she has lost friends in New York. The three older Trump children all sold out to hang on to the money. Or maybe they have Stockholm Syndrome. Whichever it is, they never found their own identities. They are pathetic. Eric is dumb and shallow , Don Jr is as big an asshole as his father, and Ivanka is a grifter with a Princess complex. Who would want to be friends with people like that? Especially since they signed onto the cruelty.
I think it is different for Tiffany and Barron, they dont seem to fit in. It looks like Barron cant stand to be within 3 feet of his father.
essme
(1,207 posts)It's weird watching this family. If I were a psychologist, I would be fascinated-- they are orchestrating their own social, emotional, and economic downfall.
Tiger8
(432 posts)At least Madoff tried to shield his family from his psychopathy. But they still got brought down.
But Trumps older kids are fully knowledgeable, willing participants in Trumps criminal destruction and hostile take-over of America. They will be treated just like Trump, and rightfully so. Baron will still be tainted, as his mind has been corrupted from day one.
Tiffany didnt spend much time with her father, and so maybe her mind isnt poisoned so much. I love Tiffany is letting herself get fat. That really seems to piss off Trump.
JI7
(89,249 posts)They like to attend events and shit but I don't think they have real friends who would be there without expecting anything in return.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)They will attract plenty of sychophantic grifters, who will be more than happy to tell them how marvelous they are. Desiring to mingle with the social elite is still the desire of an empty pursuit.
As an old Tibetan Lama once warned me, "Be ever mindful of the shortcomings of desire's rewards."
essme
(1,207 posts)to support the Trump industries?
This is more than losing friends- they will go broke. Businesses and consumers will not want to be associated with them anymore.
magicarpet
(14,150 posts)... you Nazi politics and the Fascism of your entire family....... exfoliation of old friends.
Like he was at a skin care boutique getting dead skin cells removed to give a new and fresher look. Cept it ain't skin cells it is people and former friends jared is exfoliating.
essme
(1,207 posts)What a soulless person.
Oh well, I just spent the morning wondering about the downfall of people, and greed. I need to go deadhead some rose bushes, and walk the dog.
magicarpet
(14,150 posts)I put up a link,...
*******
But according to an account in Business Insider, Kushner began to shed liberal friends like dead skin cells when it became clear he wasnt about to oppose Trumps policies.
Apparently, this has happened so often that Kushner has a name for it: exfoliating. He told one former friend and business partner that campaigning with Trump allowed him to exfoliate people. I am seeing which friendships break in the wind, he added.
More at link,....
https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/jared-kushner-is-exfoliating-his-friends.html
3Hotdogs
(12,376 posts)They will be ok.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..Those kids are 'messed up in the haid'....and have no normal reactions to anything. If ol daddy had shut the fuck up and not tried to rule the world they would be resting comfortable in their gold plated apartments and having parties. Their grifting would have continued to go unnoticed except by their unfortunate victims..and since it takes victims for them to survive... i dont think they will find many more of those unless its amongst their unwashed base. And we all know what they REALLY think of those folks!
Maeve
(42,282 posts)no matter how awful they are
essme
(1,207 posts)might not be rich and powerful anymore.
Who would stay at a Trump property now?
Maeve
(42,282 posts)And the chance to rub shoulders with folks who WERE rich and/or powerful is enough for a certain type of fool.
I used to think well of people until I got to know so many of them....
malaise
(268,997 posts)That is all
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Right along with Daddy.
Submariner
(12,504 posts)If your daddy calls a country a shithole, I'd think you'd have to be some special kind of stupid to go hunting there, and not expect to get shot or hacked up with a machete.
Hearing he was gored by a rhino or trampled by an elephant would be a more fitting demise imho, on video suitable for TV of course.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Those spoiled, rotten legacies will be fine. I am having a hard time feeling sorry for them.
-Laelth
SKKY
(11,807 posts)and all my shorts. And yea, I'm with ya. I can't find one f@$k to give either.
essme
(1,207 posts)I didn't mean for this thread to be offensive to anyone--- I just saw that tape of Eric, and was curious. I am genuinely sorry that people are suffering.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Solly Mack
(90,766 posts)essme
(1,207 posts)Middle school. Trust me, I have lived poverty every day.
But, it's just fascinating seeing people that had seemingly everything-- and are throwing it out. I didn't really get that until I watched the stupid blonde one- Eric, I think-- talk about how Covid19 is going to "magically disappear." That's when it hit: Those people just ostracized themselves from the only thing they have ever known. I don't think I have ever seen that before in my life.
Solly Mack
(90,766 posts)another group of wealthy friends, for the most part.
Jared and Ivanka still attend gatherings, per articles published, where the mix leans Liberal.
Money tends to open doors. Even for the odious.
If depth of character was universally admirable, "social influencers" wouldn't be in the bank now.
So, yes, they have lost certain friends who value character, but the Trumps don't traffic in character. So they'll be fine.
It's sad and doesn't speak well of the things a lot of people value, but there is a shit-ton of superficial in the world. The Trumps know this and use it. It's how they think. All about their "brand".
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)from corona virus, the employees deported. Wealthy people like that heartless family just hire replacement servants.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)was so they could fit in and defraud NY Dem society. Maybe now they are among their real kindred spirits.
essme
(1,207 posts)But, on reflection, I really think it's simpler for his kids: They are entitled fucks on the gravy train, and don't want it to end. They can't see past the "right now," and have never been taught to think ahead.
Amazing that it took me 5 hours to finally conclude that. I did read every response on the thread.