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Sun May 17, 2020, 09:05 AM

The ruling class believes in class struggle. Maybe it's time for the rest of us to think about that

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Reply The ruling class believes in class struggle. Maybe it's time for the rest of us to think about that (Original post)
struggle4progress May 2020 OP
comradebillyboy May 2020 #1
struggle4progress May 2020 #5
ananda May 2020 #8
mitch96 May 2020 #2
Brainfodder May 2020 #3
struggle4progress May 2020 #6
Brainfodder May 2020 #7
pecosbob May 2020 #4
KentuckyWoman May 2020 #9
hunter May 2020 #10

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 09:26 AM

1. Bernie rode the "class struggle" theme to massive losses

in primary after primary. I don't think adopting a twice failed strategy is the key to beating Trump. We are not Marxists after all.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

5. I merely say the ruling class believes in class struggle, and we ignore that at our own peril

I could not care less about labels. Saying We are not Marxists! really says very little: Marx himself famously said: “Je ne suis pas marxiste”

What I simply say is: the ruling class believes in class struggle and acts consciously in its own interests.

The rich boys' club of the Senate voted not so long ago that the President could do whatever he liked, to get himself re-elected, and since that time he has acted on it.

We got a multi-trillion dollar bail-out that's largely going to the already-wealthy, with very little to help ordinary people. We have the federal government deliberately disrupting supply chains of essential medical equipment. The little folk at the low-end of the economy have to work, with liability protection for their bosses. In this whole mess, the ruling class sets out to overturn not only worker safety standards but environmental laws as well. They pack the courts with their ideologues. They set out to undermine voting rights and the post office.

None of this is driven by pure ideology: it is driven by material interests, and those who benefit have banded together, with such organs of mass media as they control, to develop and maintain their upper hand.

We can all express outrage about it, but it is entirely predictable: they believe in class struggle; they wage their class war against us; and they intend to prevail. We should open our eyes and stop acting so surprised at every moment

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:35 AM

8. False analogy.

Sanders was not promoting Marxism.

He was rightly promoting a fair economic
system for workers and the poor, and it
was anti-corporate.

All good!

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 09:53 AM

2. I like the line that states... "It's only a class struggle if we fight back" nt

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

3. Is social distancing/the C-19 hoax (duh!) the only thing saving these assholes now from the masses?

How the people of D.C. haven't just snapped and double tapped all these fuckers (guns & ammo are out there) is an amazing example of continued civility?



Ofc I know it's more than that.

I am sick of hearing of Moscow Mitch's antics.

How long they continue to get away with all this treasonous crap, with little to no consequences whatsoever and the snarky flaunting of their obvious control of their base of morons that will stick to them no matter what insane lies they tell, people who die, and even vote against their self interests proudly?



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Response to Brainfodder (Reply #3)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

6. No, that's just one of their many propaganda lines

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #6)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

7. I know it's gross AF, and should be intolerable in civil society.

So as it stands, we aint civil and it shows?




United States?

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

4. I work in a corner market in a poor neighborhood

Only one person in six knows the real enemy is the one percent.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

9. It's only considered a class war when we fight back.

As long as the average American still afford cars and cell phones the battle for economic justice will not get any mass traction.





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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 12:40 PM

10. The ruling class believes they will survive the collapse. They won't.

The lower classes will survive, but only because there are so many to die.

Maybe we need someone like FDR who can save the ruling class from themselves.

Guillotines are probably a bad idea.



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