Sun May 17, 2020, 11:15 AM
edbermac (15,081 posts)
What happened to America's Mayor?
Long read but worthwhile.
Rudy Giuliani was once a national hero who refused to let Donald Trump buy him breakfast. How did he become who he is today? Not long ago, Rudy Giuliani was traveling in a car across New York City with Jon Sale, his longtime friend, when some construction workers saw the former mayor and approached the vehicle. Giuliani lowered the window. “One of them,” Sale recalls, “said, ‘Mr. Mayor, I would like to shake your hand and thank you for what you did for New York. I wish you were still mayor.’ ” This happens a lot to Rudy Giuliani, and it reflects what he once represented to most Americans: a man whose steady response to the attacks of September 11th, 2001, transcended partisan politics and transformed him into a national hero. Christened “America’s Mayor,” Giuliani for years was an immensely popular figure who appeared destined for a lucrative, decorated career at the spires of American business and government. Two decades later, Giuliani is in free fall. The past few years on the national stage have left his reputation in tatters, marked in history for his role in the Ukraine extortion scandal that got a president impeached. He has seemed, at times, unstable and incoherent, contradicting both himself and the president in wild appearances on cable news, while spinning a web of conspiracy theories with Joe Biden at the center. Giuliani’s ever-dwindling circle of friends — “I got about five friends left,” he was overheard telling someone near a reporter for the New York Daily News in one of his frequent phone mishaps — maintains that Rudy is still Rudy. A bit older at 76 (as of May 28th), sure, but still the same brash maverick he always was, and anybody who says otherwise has an ax to grind. But others, even those with a deep affinity for Rudy, have been stunned as a man they barely recognize pokes at his iPad in Fox News interviews or drools through a boozy lunch with a reporter. Raoul Felder, his divorce lawyer, tells Rolling Stone “the Rudy Giuliani that I knew was a very careful, brilliant lawyer. . . . It’s hard to comport what I see and the way he was.” ![]() https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rudy-giuliani-new-york-trump-997712/
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edbermac | May 2020 | OP |
SWBTATTReg | May 2020 | #1 | |
SKKY | May 2020 | #2 | |
samsingh | May 2020 | #3 | |
edhopper | May 2020 | #4 | |
GoCubsGo | May 2020 | #5 | |
edhopper | May 2020 | #9 | |
SharonClark | May 2020 | #6 | |
dhill926 | May 2020 | #7 | |
Downtown Hound | May 2020 | #8 | |
milestogo | May 2020 | #10 | |
NCjack | May 2020 | #11 | |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | May 2020 | #12 | |
CatMor | May 2020 | #13 | |
roamer65 | May 2020 | #14 | |
JDC | May 2020 | #15 |
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
SWBTATTReg (14,779 posts)
1. The same thing w/ John McCain's former friend, Lindsey Graham...
Either one of these two went into a dark tunnel and never 'truly' came back out. Maybe the touch of imagined or supposed power finally within their grasp has gone to their head?
Some friends, eh? I wouldn't trust either of them w/ a lost wallet... |
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
SKKY (9,776 posts)
2. He sold his soul because he needs to keep making those...
...ridiculous alimony payments. Dude has bills to pay.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 11:52 AM
samsingh (15,872 posts)
3. was rudy ever really better or just better at managing perceptions?
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 11:55 AM
edhopper (26,947 posts)
4. He was always an asshole
who got good PR after 9/11.
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Response to edhopper (Reply #4)
Sun May 17, 2020, 11:59 AM
GoCubsGo (26,025 posts)
5. Yep. Nothing happened to him.
Everyone in NYC hated him prior to 9/11. After that, the media turned him into some sort of folk hero, ignoring the fact that it was his idea to put the city's emergency response center inside the World Trade Center AFTER the first bombing.
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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #5)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:18 PM
edhopper (26,947 posts)
9. And lie about the air around Ground Zero
and not get people masks.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:14 PM
SharonClark (7,511 posts)
6. He was never "America's Mayor"
The media likes to give titles like that and it's just lazy journalism and cheerleading.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:15 PM
dhill926 (11,768 posts)
7. syphilis....
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:15 PM
Downtown Hound (12,392 posts)
8. Nothing happened to him. He was always a bloated,
corrupt, reactionary gas bag. The only thing he ever did regarding 9-11 was exploit it for his own personal gain. Eventually, he exploited it so much that even Republicans were like, "dude, give it a rest."
Nothing happened to him. He's the same clown he's always been. |
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:22 PM
milestogo (9,777 posts)
10. Andrew Cuomo is now truly America's mayor.
Awesome leadership during this crisis.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:30 PM
NCjack (8,215 posts)
11. "Rudy Giuliani was once a national hero who refused to let Donald Trump
buy him breakfast. How did he become who he is today?"
It began by letting Donald Trump buy him breakfast. |
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 12:39 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (61,862 posts)
12. He became Trump's "Groom of the Stool"
A dirty and thankless job.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 02:24 PM
CatMor (6,202 posts)
13. He was never my mayor ...
just like the Cowboys were never my team. It is media nonsense.
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Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 02:26 PM
roamer65 (25,395 posts)
14. 41 shots.
Response to edbermac (Original post)
Sun May 17, 2020, 03:25 PM
JDC (7,707 posts)