Biden should expand on the message that there will be no pardons

[lunatica]

Because if justice is going to be one of the cornerstones of his campaign he has plenty to work with.

We all know Trump is in power ONLY because the Republican Party has kept him there. That’s it. In a nut shell.

Biden and the Democrats need to make political ads that promise/threaten to go after EVERYONE who has illegally allowed, enabled, profited from or backed the Trump administration’s systematic destruction of the rule of law and our Constitutional laws. Dozens of lawbreakers have supported him to the detriment of the American people. If the Biden campaign does this Republicans will run away from Trump faster than rats jumping ship. They can’t be allowed to break laws and not be held accountable for it. And retiring will not help you.

The overarching theme should be if you break the law, be assured, there will be investigations and justice will be meted out.

I also believe that this should actually be the plan.

[JI7]

1. no

[lunatica]

4. It can be done through third party ads

It should be done.

[Mike 03]

2. I favor this too.

Some very smart people (including Andrew Yang) strongly oppose this, but I don't understand the reason why.

I could be wrong; maybe there's something about this I'm not thinking of.

One reason I supported Elizabeth Warren is because of her vow to assemble a task force to go after wrongdoers.

[Hoyt]

3. Totally disagree. As much as trump deserves it, it's a bad precedent to go after previous admins for

things that are mostly political in nature, rather than criminal. But if anyone deserves it, it's trump.

Beat the MFers at the polls and send them out pitiful losers for all history.

[lunatica]

5. Did I say to go after anyone who hasn't

acted in criminal ways? The Senate, for starters, has a load of members who are profiting illegally. Do you really think it’s just politics?

[Hoyt]

10. And those members of Senate are under investigation, as they should be.

[lunatica]

13. So why not bring it into the public's awareness through

ads? That’s what I’m talking about. These ads don’t even need to be directly from Biden, just as long as they are an acknowledgement that serious investigations will be held.

[Hoyt]

14. For one, we have some folks with baggage too, although not as many. Plus, Congressfolks will get it

in their local elections.

I just don't see Biden doing ads as you suggest. I'd rather see him pledge honesty, highlight his history and fact he has never owned stocks, etc.

[shockey80]

7. Biden should not get involved.

It is up to congress and the new AG to investigate all the crimes of Trump and his merry band of criminals. We must demand that happens.

[Mike 03]

9. This is an approach that makes sense to me

As long as there's some official oversight following up on all the crimes. I don't care if Biden is actually delivering the message as long as it happens.

There are also a bunch of investigations Mueller handed off, and some of those may be Trump related . I don't want to see the investigations die out.

[Brainfodder]

11. Sorry Hoyt, this SOB needs made an example of and all his shithead accomplices!

[uponit7771]

19. No, this is different

[Mr. Ected]

6. No messages. They could be distorted and used against us.

On the other hand, Biden should and could detail all the crimes that Trump has been accused of and been able to sidestep for the mere fact that presidential immunity is a grey area in which no one wishes to navigate.

Then, if and when Biden wins in November, we unleash the courts on Trump and his family, and let justice determine how Trump is dealt with.

[lunatica]

8. What about all the representatives who

are illegally profiting and making laws to sidestep any barriers in their way? If Burr is being held accountable for insider trading then why not everyone else who does the same thing? My argument is about going after felonious activities. These are activities that mostly Republicans wear like a badge of honor.

[Mr. Ected]

12. Oh, don't get me wrong, I will be incensed if we don't prosecute every stinking one of them

I just don't want us to broadcast it in advance of Biden's presidency. Let the Dems in Congress step up the language if need be, but not Joe. Let him be open to whatever decisions will be made and leave it at that.

Honestly, I'm ready to give up on the notion that our Constitution is the finest example of democracy ever established. If the Constitution has been absolutely trampled by Trump by now, what in the hell good is our enviable justice system?

My faith will only be restored when every single one of them is behind bars.

[NCjack]

15. Biden should not have sent the message "no pardons". Why give up a

power that may be useful? I can envision managing Trump and his lieutenants by pardons. Trials, convictions, offer of pardons, admissions of guilt, and pardons. If later, anyone who fails to provide info in trials of others or who lies, the pardon is cancelled and off to prison.

[lunatica]

18. Biden needs to win the election right now

He can emphasize the current investigations and project what they mean if he gets elected. It’s a message that the Republicans who have actively enabled Trump will hear. If they’re half as smart as they think they are they’ll start backing away from Trump.

[NCjack]

23. Good point. But, I think he is dealing with kamikaze Republicans. nt

[Thunderbeast]

16. His pledge to maintain an INDEPENDENT Justice Dept. goes a long way.

No special commissions.

Criminal behavior needs to be investigated and acted on by the DOJ. New leadership should look at existing evidence collected by Mueller, and further DOJ investigation into the financial misconduct involving the Russians should be expanded. These are avenues that were specifically excluded by Rosenstein.

I also hope that the Patriots who were purged from the DOJ are re-enstated. Trump fired the core counter-intelligence players. We need their historical perspective.

These actions, in themselves, will cause Republican heads to explode, but carrying out the investigations within the framework of an independent DOJ is the only responsible way to restore credibility to the US government.

[LiberalFighter]

17. Anyone guilty of wrongdoing need to be investigated and prosecuted.

Period!

As far as I am concerned the consequences need to also include any reduction or loss of government pension and benefits.

Just because they were part of the previous administration should not exempt them.

[SoonerPride]

20. No. He should focus on healthcare, the economy, and the virus failures.

Those three issues are winners.

Hammer on those and waltz to victory.

Healthcare
Economy
Virus
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Economy
Virus
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Economy
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Economy
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[lunatica]

21. Just add my suggestion to the list

We’re Democrats. We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

[SoonerPride]

22. Emphasizing investigations and prosecutions is red meat to our base

But is a turnoff to any independents.

They do not want that. That isn't to say we won't prosecute trump and his gang's crimes, just no need to pull focus off what wins.

Sure WE can walk and chew gum at the same time.

The voters we need to win cannot.