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IcyPeas

(21,871 posts)
Mon May 18, 2020, 05:43 PM May 2020

Ugh! San Diego magats. Please don't tell me his numbers are growing.

I know San Diego is a bit conservative and has a large military presence. I hope this crowd isn't as big as it seems. We cannot lose California, as many in the comments are hoping.


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Ugh! San Diego magats. Please don't tell me his numbers are growing. (Original Post) IcyPeas May 2020 OP
Good chance those crowds will be shrinking in 3-4 weeks. tanyev May 2020 #1
Lol Faux pas May 2020 #3
Nope, they couldn't swing California when there were a lot more onecaliberal May 2020 #2
We will not lose California. I don't care how big that crowd is. totodeinhere May 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 May 2020 #5
Outside of Kern County (Bakersfield) all the counties John Fante May 2020 #10
Uh huh left-of-center2012 May 2020 #12
Orange County is 100% Democratic these days. stopbush May 2020 #16
Obama won the entire coastline in 2008 rufus dog May 2020 #28
What are you talking about? Clinton took San Diego by 20 points grantcart May 2020 #30
That crowd... Alacritous Crier May 2020 #6
I live here, local news said it was around 500, so good estimation on your part! chia May 2020 #15
So many years observing music crowds. ;-) Alacritous Crier May 2020 #20
Well, I'm impressed! chia May 2020 #23
That doesn't look like too many people wryter2000 May 2020 #7
Notoriously red? No, that would be South Carolina, Kentucky, etc. John Fante May 2020 #14
True. They gummed up the works with the stupid supermajority thing so ... Caliman73 May 2020 #17
Orange County -100% of House Reps are Ds stopbush May 2020 #18
San Diego's populated areas at the coast are mostly blue, still pretty red inland chia May 2020 #21
Whole lotta cactus in those red areas though. John Fante May 2020 #26
Yep. About midway across the county heading east, you run out of population chia May 2020 #33
this map shows it better grantcart May 2020 #31
Well no, but thank you. :) I wanted to show precincts within San Diego county, to illustrate chia May 2020 #32
ROFL greenjar_01 May 2020 #8
That big Roman numeral three---III---on the black sign in the crowd is the symbol of the "Three Atticus May 2020 #9
I saw it too, was going to mention it but I'll just second you here. chia May 2020 #24
No chance in hell California will flip. Caliman73 May 2020 #11
That looks like about a hundred people Downtown Hound May 2020 #13
I live here and have seen these same idiots at every anti-tRump rally BigmanPigman May 2020 #19
The crowd looks big but think Bettie May 2020 #22
if you are worried about losing California.... BGBD May 2020 #25
Donald Trump has a better chance striking gold in the decathlon John Fante May 2020 #27
No way in hell Trump will win California obamanut2012 May 2020 #29
In an area that has several million people. Blue_true May 2020 #34

onecaliberal

(32,858 posts)
2. Nope, they couldn't swing California when there were a lot more
Mon May 18, 2020, 05:46 PM
May 2020

MAGATs there before. Loud but far in the minority.

Response to IcyPeas (Original post)

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
10. Outside of Kern County (Bakersfield) all the counties
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:01 PM
May 2020

in Southern California went to Clinton. Hillary won San Diego by 18 points.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
30. What are you talking about? Clinton took San Diego by 20 points
Mon May 18, 2020, 08:19 PM
May 2020

As this map shows, all of Southern California is deep blue, only inland CA is red

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/california


San Diego Clinton 735,476 Trump 477,766


wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
7. That doesn't look like too many people
Mon May 18, 2020, 05:54 PM
May 2020

It's a long line, but only one or two deep. Toward the end, it really stretches out.

Southern California (except for LA) is notoriously red. This would have been a tiny trickle compared to the first women's march in Oakland, and there was an even larger one the same day just across the bay in SF. Trump is not winning California.

Also, bear in mind that the Republican Party is so unpopular in California it's been virtually eliminated from holding any power at all.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
14. Notoriously red? No, that would be South Carolina, Kentucky, etc.
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:04 PM
May 2020

Southern California outside of Los Angeles is redder than people realize, but overall it still leans comfortably blue.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
17. True. They gummed up the works with the stupid supermajority thing so ...
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:09 PM
May 2020

The Democratic Party just simply elected supermajorities in both houses of the legislature for the past couple of elections. I mean, we did send assholes like Darryl Issa and do send assholes like Devin Nunes to Congress but that is Fresno, and Issa's old seat is now represented by a Democrat.

chia

(2,244 posts)
21. San Diego's populated areas at the coast are mostly blue, still pretty red inland
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:20 PM
May 2020
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chia

(2,244 posts)
32. Well no, but thank you. :) I wanted to show precincts within San Diego county, to illustrate
Mon May 18, 2020, 08:28 PM
May 2020

how it's mainly blue on the coast, mainly red inland. Because there's more population as you go toward the coast, blue predominates (thankfully) but it wasn't always so. I think 2008 was the first time in my memory that SD county went blue.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
9. That big Roman numeral three---III---on the black sign in the crowd is the symbol of the "Three
Mon May 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

Percent" militia. Those are the nazi-wannabes that provided "security" for the alt-right groups participating on the Charlottesville hate-fest a couple of years ago.

Any decent politician would strongly disavow the support of this hate group, but Trump says they're "great people".

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
11. No chance in hell California will flip.
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:03 PM
May 2020

There are always idiots in every jurisdiction, but the Republicans in California have been a marginal party for at least the last decade. They will win elections here and there but California will not send a Republican Senator or President to the White House for a long long time.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
13. That looks like about a hundred people
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:03 PM
May 2020

Maybe 200, played on a repeating loop to make it seem bigger than it is. LOL.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
19. I live here and have seen these same idiots at every anti-tRump rally
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:16 PM
May 2020

I have attended here (over 25 on the past 3 years). They are NOT the majority! Half of them are related to the red neck areas like Santee (those 2 idiots wearing KKK hoods and swastika masks at supermarkets were both from there).

"In 2008, Barack Obama became the first Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of votes in San Diego County since World War II; he won a majority of county votes again in 2012. In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the county by almost 20%, the largest margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1936."

"The city of San Diego itself is more Democratic than the county's average and has voted for Democrats Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, and Clinton respectively, in the last seven presidential elections. With a few exceptions, areas close to the Mexican border tend to be more Democratic, while North County tends be more Republican."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_San_Diego_County

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
22. The crowd looks big but think
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:21 PM
May 2020

about the overall population density in that area.

It's small, but loud.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
25. if you are worried about losing California....
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:23 PM
May 2020

don't.

When you have an area with 10s of millions of people nearby, it's not hard to get a big crowd for pretty much anything.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
27. Donald Trump has a better chance striking gold in the decathlon
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:37 PM
May 2020

than he does winning California.

San Diego went to Hillary by 18 points and it's likely bluer now.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. In an area that has several million people.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:35 PM
May 2020

Hell, you're find more people at a Walmart on a regular day.

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