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What are the odds they are giving trump* a placebo, and telling him it's hydroxychloroquine (Original Post) Siwsan May 2020 OP
Or he is just straight up lying. SoonerPride May 2020 #1
+1 Thomas Hurt May 2020 #6
Just lying. Par for the course. n/t Laelth May 2020 #8
No question about that. (nt) matt819 May 2020 #15
Yup. He's totally lying. 2naSalit May 2020 #18
He's managed to get doctors to lie for him, so I would not be surprised if he got tulipsandroses May 2020 #2
Considering the character of the doctors who 'take care' of him, anything is possible Siwsan May 2020 #3
I think he's just lying about it. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #4
Unfortunately They Didn't Shut Trump Up.... global1 May 2020 #5
More likely an antipsychotic. sop May 2020 #7
It's not working. Alacritous Crier May 2020 #9
There's three scenarios (sort of)... JHB May 2020 #10
3d) spinbaby May 2020 #11
They should load him up with Haldol or Thorazine The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #12
When faced with a choice of: A) Trump's lying or B) Anything else, go with "A" Bleacher Creature May 2020 #13
I just saw that his quote was "I'm taking the zinc and the hydroxy". tanyev May 2020 #14
My money is... Newest Reality May 2020 #16
That sounds likely sakabatou May 2020 #17
That was my thought exactly. Merlot May 2020 #19
The Obecalp Effect keithbvadu2 May 2020 #20

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. Or he is just straight up lying.
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:33 PM
May 2020

Don’t forget who is talking.

Now think of how often anything he says is true.

Occams Razor

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
2. He's managed to get doctors to lie for him, so I would not be surprised if he got
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:34 PM
May 2020

a doctor to prescribe it. Unfortunately, some docs will do anything for money.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
3. Considering the character of the doctors who 'take care' of him, anything is possible
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:36 PM
May 2020

They don't seem to mind lying to the American public about the state of trump*'s physical condition.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,614 posts)
4. I think he's just lying about it.
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:38 PM
May 2020

I think he's saying he's taking it in order to save face and "prove" that it's safe - of course he won't get any side effects because he's not taking it. And he wants other people to take it to own the libs, like not wearing masks, and because his cronies have invested in the company.

global1

(25,225 posts)
5. Unfortunately They Didn't Shut Trump Up....
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:39 PM
May 2020

instead they made him more of a danger to the American People because now he's touting the use of the drug. Malpractice on the part of the Doc's.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
10. There's three scenarios (sort of)...
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:49 PM
May 2020

Last edited Tue May 19, 2020, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

1) He really is taking it, in which case we'll find out soon enough.

2) As per your take, he's been given "hydroxychloroquine" piles that are really just placebos to placate him while not feeding him poison.

3) He's just lying.

#3 has branches:

3a) He's lying just because he has some financial interest in a HCQ supplier,

3b) He's lying just to not admit he was wrong,

3c) Both of the above, omitting the "just"s. They're not mutually exclusive.

tanyev

(42,523 posts)
14. I just saw that his quote was "I'm taking the zinc and the hydroxy".
Mon May 18, 2020, 07:04 PM
May 2020

It could be they’re giving him zinc and Vitamin D or C and he just got it in his head that it’s hydroxy and there isn’t anything that will ever convince him that it’s not.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
16. My money is...
Mon May 18, 2020, 07:12 PM
May 2020

My money is on, HE'S JUST LYING! Double or nothing.

Think of what he is teaching America's kids. You can lie. You can lie some more. You can lie about your lies and then lie about that. And, kiddies, you totally get away with it. Nothing happens to you. No punishment. You can do it all day long and even try to get what you want and it works even better than temper tantrums. Go lie!

With no accountability or a slap or time out, nothing! Free to spread the bull as you please. You simply get away with it all your life because nobody can do anything about it. Wait? What?

That's why I am betting on fabrication, deceit, falsehoods, fibs, etc. It's a sure thing! No problem.

keithbvadu2

(36,676 posts)
20. The Obecalp Effect
Mon May 18, 2020, 08:34 PM
May 2020

The Obecalp Effect

https://www.endoflifeblog.com/2011/04/obecalp-effect.html

I broke the "news" to Nancy who said, "Well, can't you just give her a placebo?" Actually, our formulary at that time (a number of years ago) carried a "drug" called Obecalp. As you might have guessed this is Placebo spelled backwards and was doled out now and then but I had never prescribed it. Nancy begged me to try it for her Mom, "It can't do any harm, why not? I know doctors don't want to deceive patients, but I'm desperate and so's Mom!"

With more than a little reluctance, Betty was given Obecalp for her plethora of symptoms. A few weeks later I got a call from Nancy, "Your're not going to believe this. Mom loves her Obecalp. All is well."


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