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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs a Pennsylvanian, I have always found this to be weird:
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As a matter of background, it is interesting to note that Pennsylvania, besides being one of the most populous states, possesses more towns, villages, hamlets, and cities in terms of number and any other state in the United States. At least this was true with my father Cased mail in the 1940s 50s and 60s before the advent of ZIP Codes. He was assigned the state of Texas where he would have to know when presented with an envelope with a town on it, what the sectional center was and he would stuff that envelope into that slot. He had mentioned this to me on numerous occasions that the only state with more towns than Texas was Pennsylvania.
That being said, for state with the population we have, for the number of universities, large businesses, And families which date back to the founding of the nation, it has always amazed me that for the past couple decades, at least since the Watergate era, we have had zero politicians of national prominence. Please dont get me started on Eddie Rendell, who was a national disgrace. For those of you who dont recall he had been elevated to the head of the DNC and when the Gore Bush recount began, he on national TV Stated that Gore should just give it up. Can you imagine a Republican national chairman ever saying that even in private, much less on the Brinkley show? Anyway, our politicians, while adequate, do not rise to the level of vice presidential selection material.
Senator Casey is a very nice man, soft-spoken, and a member of the lucky sperm club. His familys prominence in the Commonwealth is and was significant, particularly among the so-called pro-life establishment, since his father was a famous anti-choice Democrat. The other senator we have is quite possibly the most insidious right wing conservative in the Senate, playing all sides against the middle and is a consummate pro a ducking issues and he makes Susan Collins look like an amateur.
There are very few young politicians waiting in the Wings, and it is just beyond fascinating that we do not produce people who may step up to great positions nationally. There are quite possibly many subterranean reasons for this, of which I am unaware as an ordinary citizen. The reason I mentioned this in this fashion is that when individuals are considered for vice president in columns and articles, and the importance of being from a swing state is noted, you almost never hear of an individual from Pennsylvania being considered. Those of us who live here understand this fully.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)Of course the only POTUS from PA was the 2nd-worst President ever, Buchanan. And we can boast of our esteemed native son, Rick Frothy Santorum.
Gov Wolf would have made a great running mate and guaranteed our state in the win column, but for his age - I think hes 70 but he looks a lot younger. I hope he considers running for Senate against Toomey in 22.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)nm
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)Biden was born here.
FraDon
(518 posts)one of the last, so-called "moderate Republicans" ~ republicans of conscience.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)was lost in a helicopter crash WAY before he had time to show what he could be. His widow is now married to John Kerry.
PCIntern
(25,544 posts)I knew kids burned from the flames. Horrifying.
Freedomofspeech
(4,224 posts)Congressman Jack Murtha was a great guy but I think he was the last strong Democrat that we had in this state. We used to be such a strong and beautiful blue state. The orange monster 2020 signs are popping up around here.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,835 posts)I wonder if there are many others like him who left and made their mark elsewhere.
ecstatic
(32,703 posts)of the state, is that Pennsylvanians aren't as partisan. The politicians don't fall neatly into a category. Even Chris wavered between repub light and left wing.
That "independent" mindset might work within the state, but on the national stage, no. Lol!
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)A former big union state, had a lot of working class people who voted D out of simple common sense/personal interests who put aside the "culture" stuff - so Ds have tended to be moderate in tone and playing it safe on issues.
GREAT analysis of Casey - he clearly is a good man, but dude seems over medicated on prozac or something. And, one of those kinds of Ds I noted who plays most of the tough issues VERY carefully.
I will say that Fetterman can definitely be a next level guy - the size and gruff exterior can help with populism, but he has a very good political mind and is a balls out progressive.
Gonna be an epic battle for him to follow Wolfe up in the Governor's office.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)As of early fall 2016 registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans by 919,000 in Pennsylvania, with 4.1 million Democrats and 3.2 million Republicans.
452,669 voters were registered with non-major parties and 702,482 defined themselves as non-affiliated.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I think PAers like to know their candidates. The western side votes parochially and are kind of dismissive of Philadelphia politicians. Not always of course, but we trend toward our local candidates.
Hey. Did you ever noticed that many Pennsylvania politicians who rise to national level that their name begins with an S? Scranton Santorum Schweiker Scott Schapp and others. 😄
Doc_Technical
(3,526 posts)PCIntern
(25,544 posts)Thanks!!