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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:34 PM May 2020

"With Obama He's Going For the Jugular"...

Last edited Wed May 20, 2020, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Too bad mf45 has nothing positive to run on. But that's the reality, absolutely nothing he can point to as a success.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-goes-after-obama

Trump Campaign
“With Obama He’s Going For the Jugular”: As Trump Goes After Obama, Some in Trumpworld See a “Big Risk”
Frustrated with his campaign (he “feels he’s doing it all alone”), Trump has settled on a campaign bank shot: hit Obama to destroy Biden. But there’s a problem: “Obama can’t be ‘softened’ up.”
By Gabriel Sherman
May 19, 2020

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But Trump’s targeting of Obama has been causing consternation among Republicans, who fear he is pursuing a base-incitement strategy when he needs to appeal to crucial suburban voters in must-win battleground states. “Going after Obama is a big risk,” a former West Wing official said. “Obama is seen as trustworthy and reasonable. If you attack him and people don’t buy it, then you have a huge swing and a miss in front of the entire country.” Another prominent Republican agreed: “Trump cannot draw Obama into this. Obama can’t be ‘softened’ up. American people know him and like him.”

Trump has been leaning on powerful Republicans to join his war on Obama, sources told me. Last Thursday, Trump tweeted at Senate Judiciary chair Lindsey Graham, saying that Graham needed to call Obama to testify at hearings on Michael Flynn’s unmasking and the origin of the Russia probe. Graham rejected the request. “Trump thinks Lindsey isn’t doing anything on Flynn,” a former White House official said. According to the former official, Trump recently asked prominent allies to tweet negative things about Graham, and he has been complaining that Graham is a hanger-on. “Trump has said, ‘Since [John] McCain died, Lindsey follows me around and shows up to play golf and I don’t even invite him,’” according to the source briefed on the conversation.

Trump’s Obama preoccupation is likely to grow harder to let go of. Obama is breaking his postpresidential silence and goading Trump. On a private call with Democrats earlier this month, Obama deemed Trump’s COVID-19 response a “chaotic disaster.” During a virtual graduation ceremony last weekend, Obama told students: “This pandemic has fully, finally torn back the curtain on the idea that so many of the folks in charge know what they’re doing.” NBC News reported that Trump won’t invite Obama to the White House for the 44th president’s official portrait unveiling. “Trump hates Obama,” a former Trump adviser told me. “He used to go around calling Obama a ‘child.’” As a prominent Republican told me, “With Obama he’s going for the jugular. I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts out the really dirty stuff.”

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"With Obama He's Going For the Jugular"... (Original Post) babylonsister May 2020 OP
I read today that Lindsey has caved to Trump's demands leftieNanner May 2020 #1
He did; Graham is preparing to hold investigations. babylonsister May 2020 #3
I think Lindsey isn't completely stupid, like his boss leftieNanner May 2020 #4
Surely Lindsay must remember PatSeg May 2020 #12
I don't think we'll ever have a subpoena answered ever again jimfields33 May 2020 #5
The first time Ass Face did this leftieNanner May 2020 #8
there are no consequences.. stillcool May 2020 #9
Jeff Sessions might have..... leftieNanner May 2020 #10
Sessions recused himself... stillcool May 2020 #11
Goodness! He might prevent Obama from being elected again! forgotmylogin May 2020 #29
This needs to be turned into an ad for Jaime Harrison running against Lindsey maxrandb May 2020 #2
I would donate a grand JustAnotherGen May 2020 #7
"IF" he said that about Lindsey.............. MyOwnPeace May 2020 #14
Obama is EVERYTHING Dump isn't. LakeArenal May 2020 #6
Does Trump even have a nasty nickname for Obama yet? PatSeg May 2020 #13
you know he has a nasty nickname for President Obama said only among the most racist repugnantcans. bermudat May 2020 #28
Oh, I'm sure he does PatSeg May 2020 #34
He's so fucking wrong - there is an overarching message malaise May 2020 #15
If Subpoenaed We should showup, show the American people that party (Democratics) still follows Law. ace3csusm May 2020 #16
trump is going for the Jagular ? OnDoutside May 2020 #17
"...puts out the really dirty stuff." dchill May 2020 #18
Let him waste his energy Chainfire May 2020 #19
please proceed, fuckface.... dhill926 May 2020 #20
The POUTS is wrong as usual. Hassler May 2020 #21
This is probably the dumbest thing the fat fuck has done yet politically. You want to get out the Vinca May 2020 #22
+1000s DinahMoeHum May 2020 #26
I've seen their commercial about Biden and China. My response was.......huh? Firestorm49 May 2020 #23
The one I saw several times in one night, ABC, fux, says Biden dangerous for America in the closing. sprinkleeninow May 2020 #31
Trump has NO way of attacking Biden really. Caliman73 May 2020 #24
well if trump's aim is the same as it has always been mnmoderatedem May 2020 #25
Shitbag forgets Aviation Pro May 2020 #27
Solid Point. Cha May 2020 #36
If dotard attempts to run against president Obama warmfeet May 2020 #30
Show an ad with COVID-45 in the oval office in a play pen in his humongous diapers sucking sprinkleeninow May 2020 #33
(Trump) used to go around calling Obama a child Metro135 May 2020 #32
trump is his OWN WORST Enemy.. So he'll be going Cha May 2020 #35

leftieNanner

(15,063 posts)
1. I read today that Lindsey has caved to Trump's demands
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

And he is asking the Senate for broad subpoena powers to pursue Obama Administration individuals. I hope they all say NO and ignore the subpoenas. Take it all to the courts. Fight it like Ass Face fights it. Draw it out.

If they end up in court over an ignored subpoena, you just point to the White House and say you get the same treatment.

babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
3. He did; Graham is preparing to hold investigations.
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:50 PM
May 2020

I do wonder about the timing of mf45's attack on graham. And here I thought lil lindsay was being a good little soldier.

leftieNanner

(15,063 posts)
4. I think Lindsey isn't completely stupid, like his boss
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:55 PM
May 2020

And he knows that this whole "investigation" could blow up in his face. But he has allowed himself to be bullied time and again by Ass Face. And here we go again.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
12. Surely Lindsay must remember
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:51 PM
May 2020

what happened to Jeff Sessions. For Trump, loyalty is a one way street and he'll turn on anyone for any reason or no reason at all. Its just a matter of time.

jimfields33

(15,699 posts)
5. I don't think we'll ever have a subpoena answered ever again
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:00 PM
May 2020

The house and senate are going to have to figure another way. I’m certainly not saying this due to Lindsey, but it have been destroyed by trump.

leftieNanner

(15,063 posts)
8. The first time Ass Face did this
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:04 PM
May 2020

The Sergeant-at-Arms of the House should have arrested the person and forced actual Consequences. As soon as they got away with it the first time, then there was no going back.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. there are no consequences..
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:38 PM
May 2020

when you own the Justice Department. Do you think Barr would provide a jail cell, and press charges?

leftieNanner

(15,063 posts)
10. Jeff Sessions might have.....
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:40 PM
May 2020

Wait. Did I just say that?

This began before Barr was in office. Sessions is a (insert scathing words here) - but I think he did have a tiny bit of conscience and awareness of the LAW.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
29. Goodness! He might prevent Obama from being elected again!
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:29 PM
May 2020


So which way do they want it? "It's okay when the President does it" or "Of course you can investigate and prosecute former Presidents"?

I hope that MF'er is so screwed when he gets de-elected. And I hope that other MF'er McConnell is the ammunition they fire out of the cannon at him.

maxrandb

(15,297 posts)
2. This needs to be turned into an ad for Jaime Harrison running against Lindsey
Wed May 20, 2020, 12:45 PM
May 2020

"Trump recently asked prominent allies to tweet negative things about Graham, and he has been complaining that Graham is a hanger-on. “Trump has said, ‘Since [John] McCain died, Lindsey follows me around and shows up to play golf and I don’t even invite him,’


https://jaimeharrison.com/

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
14. "IF" he said that about Lindsey..............
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:36 PM
May 2020

that is even more ironic because it was a "golf outing" when Lindsey seemed to come back to the club house a "different man."
Remember, it was Lindsey that said that IQ45 was not fit to be president, but then, miracle of miracles, one "round of golf" later, Lindsey is fighting for his spot in line behind IQ45 to plant the "kiss of the day."


DISCLAIMER: Please understand, I've tried to "tone this down." It is SO easy to think the entire series of events evolves around somebody having "pictures" of "somebody" doing "something" to "somebody" else - in ways that would be typical in "crime syndicate" films or "adult-film" sites.
"Some people are saying" - but not me!

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
13. Does Trump even have a nasty nickname for Obama yet?
Wed May 20, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

That will be a really tough one, unless he takes the racist road, which would backfire big time.

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
28. you know he has a nasty nickname for President Obama said only among the most racist repugnantcans.
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:26 PM
May 2020

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
34. Oh, I'm sure he does
Wed May 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
May 2020

Not something he can say publicly, but its easy to imagine him saying it behind closed doors.

malaise

(268,708 posts)
15. He's so fucking wrong - there is an overarching message
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:42 PM
May 2020

When someone is responsible for close to 100,000 deaths, send him fucking packing. Here's the message

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
16. If Subpoenaed We should showup, show the American people that party (Democratics) still follows Law.
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:48 PM
May 2020

That by showing up we have nothing to hide unlike the other party that keeps hiding and committing crimes...

dchill

(38,444 posts)
18. "...puts out the really dirty stuff."
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:55 PM
May 2020

I'm sure he meant "the really fake, rehashed birther dirty stuff.”

Chainfire

(17,471 posts)
19. Let him waste his energy
Wed May 20, 2020, 02:58 PM
May 2020

fighting Obama. It is a game he is destined to lose. Obama can play Trump like a fiddle if he chooses to.


Hassler

(3,369 posts)
21. The POUTS is wrong as usual.
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

There is a unifying message for this election: Chump is an incompetent moron, whose incompetence is surpassed only by his narcissism and his corruption.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
22. This is probably the dumbest thing the fat fuck has done yet politically. You want to get out the
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

Democratic vote - in particular the black vote - screw with Obama. He's beloved. It can only create a larger landslide for Biden.

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
23. I've seen their commercial about Biden and China. My response was.......huh?
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
May 2020

Personally, China may be an issue, but certainly not as significant as they are trying to make it out to be. We all know very well what the issues are, and they center around arrogance, ineptitude, childlike behavior, irrational diplomacy, cronyism, nepotism, corruption, simple stupidity, overreach of power, and on and on.

I hope they keep the ill-conceived commercials coming because in my opinion, it sounds very much like what you stated - a campaign originated by the Fool in Chief because HE thinks it’s important, whereas most Americans don’t give it top priority.

Keep up the good work, Trump, while we bury your sorry ass in votes.

sprinkleeninow

(20,216 posts)
31. The one I saw several times in one night, ABC, fux, says Biden dangerous for America in the closing.
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:40 PM
May 2020

Sickos...

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
24. Trump has NO way of attacking Biden really.
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:10 PM
May 2020

I think that Hillary Clinton is one of the most accomplished politicians to run for office in the modern period. She had a wide array of experience and skill. She was very intelligent, and a good person. She also had close to 40 years of hatred and false stories accumulated against her to the point that Trump and the GOP were able to leverage it and cast her as not being trustworthy.

Biden has had his share of rough moments, but the reality is that most of the people who have worked for him, with him, and around him really like him and respect him. Being a White man, does not hurt either, as I think a lot of the hatred toward Hillary was born of misogyny. Biden is popular with most Democrats. He is a known quantity (warts & all). He is stable. He has been around a long time. He has shown the ability to lead. He has shown the humility to follow. He has been pretty scandal free in the scheme of things. Notwithstanding the dubious sexual assault allegation that is currently floundering, the made up Hunter Biden stuff, or the plagiarism allegation when he was in school like a hundred years ago, Biden has been pretty clean. He doesn't seem to have a bunch of stocks, or business interests that he has been profiting from like Trump or other politicians. The worst you can say about Biden is that he is gaffe prone, that he was a little cozy with Finance (Delaware has a huge credit and finance industry so, what are you going to do?), and that he voted for some regrettable policies (Crime Bills in the 1990's ) that MANY other people also voted for.

Trump really has nowhere to attack from, except for his usual lies and shamelessness. Like the article said however, none of those are sticking because the public has not been conditioned to hate Joe Biden the way that they were to hate Hillary Clinton. Plus, most people really do like President Obama and Joe's friendship with Obama and their working relationship was honest and genuine so if President Obama respects Joe, you kinda gotta respect Joe even if he wasn't your first choice in candidates.

Trump is worried. We had President Obama for 8 years and hardly a scandal, though the GOP was looking and there were more than a few fake scandals attempted.

Think of it. The only strategy Trump has is to attack one of the most trusted and respected politicians of the last 50 years. He can't even go directly after his opponent because there is little there to go on.

Aviation Pro

(12,125 posts)
27. Shitbag forgets
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

That President Obama is a stone cold assassin.

Just ask Usama bin Laden.

Oh, wait, you can't since he's fish food.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
30. If dotard attempts to run against president Obama
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:30 PM
May 2020

he will get his ass kicked. President Barack Obama is extremely popular. I heartily approve of this strategy. Dotard is a loser.

sprinkleeninow

(20,216 posts)
33. Show an ad with COVID-45 in the oval office in a play pen in his humongous diapers sucking
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020
onna pacifier holding a rattle. 👶

Metro135

(359 posts)
32. (Trump) used to go around calling Obama a child
Wed May 20, 2020, 03:42 PM
May 2020

This from someone who behaves like a six-year-old having a twitter fit in a playground sandbox.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
35. trump is his OWN WORST Enemy.. So he'll be going
Wed May 20, 2020, 09:06 PM
May 2020

for his OWN JUGULAR

Remember why Assface got Impeached?

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