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Would the cabinet invoke the 25th amendment if Trump got crazy after losing the election? (Original Post) Renew Deal May 2020 OP
No. BlueTsunami2018 May 2020 #1
No jberryhill May 2020 #2
Crazy - after the election?? Laf.La.Dem. May 2020 #3
My first thought. He's ALREADY crazy. n/t Jamastiene May 2020 #10
He is already crazy and no one does anything. No one will do anything, no one. katmondoo May 2020 #4
No. Turbineguy May 2020 #5
93,000 citizens dead and they have said 'nothing'. spanone May 2020 #6
Hell no. The mob is lawless and unfettered. Not one enforcement agency is willing to take them on. Magoo48 May 2020 #7
If Trump *got* crazy? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #8
Nope. He's already crazy and they haven't. Jamastiene May 2020 #9
No, they'll be too busy stuffing their pockets C_U_L8R May 2020 #11
He is already bat shit crazy malaise May 2020 #12
Thomas Friedman floated an interesting idea a year or more ago Mike 03 May 2020 #13
Replaced by Pence who would pardon Trump. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #14
Nope. He could launch nukes at California and New York and they'd say so what SoonerPride May 2020 #15
They fear Trump would torpedo their 2022 and subsequent campaigns if they tried 25A. NCjack May 2020 #16
That won't happen - unless there is a pardon plan in place. MineralMan May 2020 #17
What cabinet? Most of them are "acting" secretaries... Wounded Bear May 2020 #18
His originl cabinet? Maybe. This one, absolutely no. Tom Rinaldo May 2020 #19
Uh, no. Nature Man May 2020 #20
Nope, they'll just accellerate the thievery. GoCubsGo May 2020 #21

spanone

(135,802 posts)
6. 93,000 citizens dead and they have said 'nothing'.
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:45 AM
May 2020

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No. Absolutely Not.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
8. If Trump *got* crazy?
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:56 AM
May 2020

He's already as mad as a box of frogs and nobody has done a damn thing, and they aren't going to. Mike Pants would have to get the ball rolling, but all he ever does is bobble his head during press conferences while gazing at His Lardship with big googly adoring eyes, which is quite a trick when he's simultaneously kissing that vast orange ass. Nuke Iran? They wouldn't do squat if he nuked Canada. Or California.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
9. Nope. He's already crazy and they haven't.
Thu May 21, 2020, 08:56 AM
May 2020

Nothing will make the rest of our stingy* ass government go after the other part of our stingy ass government. It's them then there is us. We are two separate entities at this point, except when they demand money from us or want us to do something to make their rich donors richer. Other than that, don't expect any relief from them. It ain't coming.

*Note: they are only stingy when it comes to giving the American people relief, NOT when it comes time to make more bombs or give their rich donors more of the money they collected from us. Then, they cannot wait to dig deep and give, give, give. They are only stingy when we need help or when they are talking about our Social Security that WE PAID FOR, then they call us freeloaders and tell us tough shit.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
13. Thomas Friedman floated an interesting idea a year or more ago
Thu May 21, 2020, 09:16 AM
May 2020

about what to do if Trump becomes uncontrollably dangerous (IMO he has been for a long time). He said the former (living, obviously) Presidents and Chief Justice Roberts should unite in a common purpose of managing a solution, by which I took it to mean supervising his removal in some capacity. He emphasized Obama and W. Bush so it would be bipartisan.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
15. Nope. He could launch nukes at California and New York and they'd say so what
Thu May 21, 2020, 10:00 AM
May 2020

That's just trump being trump.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
17. That won't happen - unless there is a pardon plan in place.
Thu May 21, 2020, 10:34 AM
May 2020

Then, it just might. However, it would be much easier for Trump to simply resign outright and let the pardoning begin.

If he had already lost the election, there would be no real reason for him not to do that to reap the reward that pardons for him, his family, and others in his administration would provide. Mike Pence has no hope whatever of becoming President through election, but he could be in the history books as President for a month or two. That would be his reward for pardoning all of the Trumpsters in the administration.

Pence wouldn't need a pardon, himself, since it would be very difficult to pin any crimes on him. He hasn't really done much as VP.

So, no, the 25th Amendment wouldn't be needed after Trump loses the November election. Pardons would be needed, and there is a direct route to those through resignation by Trump.

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
18. What cabinet? Most of them are "acting" secretaries...
Thu May 21, 2020, 10:41 AM
May 2020

Trump has never kept up with the appointments he is supposed to make.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
19. His originl cabinet? Maybe. This one, absolutely no.
Thu May 21, 2020, 11:12 AM
May 2020

The most they might do is drag their feet at implementing crazy commands. If they were off the chart dangerous commands, they might not comply. Bit no current Republican stoogie would take the heat for removing Trump from office.

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