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BeSafe Floridians including my Family & Friends!
LakeArenal
(28,816 posts)✌🏼🤞🏼🇺🇸
Igel
(35,296 posts)A series of islands, all already quarantined by default. Not a whole lot of industry, and in December/January all the leisure travel by infected people would have been to China for the holidays and then back, not to Hawai'i.
And not many New Yorkers have homes there, so the plague exodus didn't affect them as much.
Remember, the fairly simple models are going to be wrong because they assume random chance encounters among the entire population. It spreads by networks (rather like language change, as the Milroys showed in the '70s in Britain).
We used to use California as the great example.
Cha
(297,126 posts)all following the strict rules. So when we do open up there's less chance of a 2nd wave.
We have a responsible Gov & Mayors of our Islands.
How are you doing in Costa Rica!
LakeArenal
(28,816 posts)Eight dead. None in our Province. Two cases near us. Both recovered. Mostly all native residents. First case was a Tico back from Italy back in February.
Rules for 65 or older or health conditions to allow them to work from home. Also can use vacation days they have or will earn in the future.
Everyone has two days a week they can not drive. Sat and Sundays can only leave home to go to grocery store or hospital.
Originally could only drive from 5:30 am to 5 pm. Then 5:30 to 7pm. Lately it changed to 5:30 to 10pm.
Stores and banks open. No masks. Limited entry. Six feet apart Handwashing and stepping in sanitizer.
NO (stupid) PROTESTERS!!!
We feel guilty having such a great quarantine!!!
Pura Vida, Amiga.
Cha
(297,126 posts)Last edited Thu May 21, 2020, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)
handling of the CV.
Looks good.. I'm surprised at the "No masks" for stores and banks, though. We have a strict Mask policy.. Sign on the side of buses.. "No Mask No Ride" On the entrance to Take Out restaurants.. No Mask No Service.
I haven't heard of much grumbling, either.
We've had no deaths on Kauai.. and hope it stays like that.
Pura Vida, Amiga & Aloha!
Cha
(297,126 posts)malaise
(268,910 posts)They have been hiding b=numbers nd it's going to blow wide open anytime now.
You cannot hide bodies.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)There's too many epidemiologists saying it WILL happen, with certainty.
The only bright side is that it might be a slow-roll that doesn't overburden the hospitals. There's not much of a positive spin on this nightmare otherwise.
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if more Americans took it seriously, but we're talking about a bunch of people who voted for Trump in 2016.
Cha
(297,126 posts)people don't take it seriously enough to follow the guidelines of being as safe as possible.
But like you say.. they voted for trump and they're following him not the Science.
Mahalo, Buckeye_Dem
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Cha
(297,126 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,993 posts)There is a right wing theme that hospitals are getting extra $ to call deaths due to COVID.
This despite there being no such government money authorized and that insurance companies are never going to overpay based on cause of death.
So, these cultists believe the death rate is greatly exaggerated to make their knit of the morons look bad.
Anything to avoid admitting they got suckered!
Cha
(297,126 posts)at their own Peril.
Right.. they make up shite out of thin air.. can't think for themselves.. too horribly pathetic.
Mahalo, ProfessorGAC
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)And the Diagnosis Related Group (DRG) guidelines that DO in fact set reimbursements rates based on, among other things, the principle, and secondary diagnosis.
https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-Fee-for-Service-Payment/ProspMedicareFeeSvcPmtGen
https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-Fee-for-Service-Payment/AcuteInpatientPPS
The CARE Act provides a 20% add on payment for Covid patients.
I do not believe that ANY hospital is using this to commit fraud, but the fact is that there is increased payment, due to the increase precautions and care used for those patients.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
ProfessorGAC
(64,993 posts)...was to help hospitals that were passing on deferrable procedures to save resources.
They'd make even more money by just ignoring the recommendations on deferring such procedures.
So, it would be easier & more profitable to do the procedures than to perpetrate a fraud.
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)I am one of the employees that is being furloughed because of the lack of elective surgery and routine care.
I just wanted to point out that although the RW memes were technically true, no hospital would commit fraud, just for the extra payment.
But there is higher reimbursement for Covid diagnosis vs other diagnosis.
ProfessorGAC
(64,993 posts)Sorry to hear your situation.
As I meant to say, I agree that the hospitals are extraordinarily unlikely to commit fraud. Especially given that they would get in a lot less trouble by simply taking their chances on performing deferrable procedures. And more money.
Kid Berwyn
(14,870 posts)They kill people to increase their power and advance their position.
Cha
(297,126 posts)Mahalo, Kid Berwyn
sheshe2
(83,730 posts)They have been hiding their numbers. GOP does not care how many die. They care more for the economy than they do human life.
Proven fact, the elders are not the only ones at risk, Cha.
Cha
(297,126 posts)where my family is, that has a repub gov like DeSantis, who doesn't give a shite about their people.
Exactly.. elders aren't the only folks at risk.. Mahalo, she~
sheshe2
(83,730 posts)They just don't care about human life. They only care about dollar signs.
May all of yours be well. Shelter as much as they can. We never leave the house without a mask and some form of sanitizer which is hard to come by. My niece just found us some.
Hugs.
Cha
(297,126 posts)I take gloves with me, too.. thicker black ones that are X large so they're not all tight on me. I like them the best after someone gave me a pair and she was finally able to find a box of 100 for sale in an out of the way hardware store. All the other stores were sold out.
They're important for people like me who ride the bus, I think.
My Florida Peeps are all Dems so they've been practicing safety from the get go!
sheshe2
(83,730 posts)Be careful taking them off. Also be careful with your mask. Leave it on your face until you get home. Do not touch it or pull it down while you are out. Leave it in place until you can get home safely and wash your hands to remove it then wash again after you do.
I see so many reporters on the TeeVee
touching their mask, pulling it down. pushing it up. That is a no no.
Stay safe, sweetie.
Cha
(297,126 posts)then take my mask off very gingerly and put it in a paper bag.
OT.. Hermit gave me a link that helps me post pics now!
sheshe2
(83,730 posts)Calming.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Blockaded themselves off early.
I lived there for so many years, and Ive got many friends there. Proud of how theyve handled it.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)Cha
(297,126 posts)acting more Free for All are the ones getting hit the hardest.. you'd think they'd get an important clue by now.
Mahalo, Stallion
Fla Dem
(23,645 posts)People cooped up can come down here pass along the virus or get the virus, and take it home with them.
Cha
(297,126 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,449 posts)Even though we covered Business cuz you can't sue, you are on your own!
Cha
(297,126 posts)Floridians who with they had Gov Gillum now.. at least I hope so.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)...and with DeSatan lying about the numbers, the beaches and restaurants are packed.
We are sure that in June we will see the surge again, and there is already some local evidence of increasing numbers of cases. It's not hard to see the increase in traffic.
Cha
(297,126 posts)My nephew and his girlfriend are in St Pete.. they're Dems and don't think much of DeSantis.
StaySafe, you all!
littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)He's also afraid of something. He's giving himself away with the faux outrage. Unfortunately, when it blows up in his face, and it will, it will be at the expense of the good citizens of Florida.
He's proving himself to be the ultimate "Florida Man" and he doesn't even realize how idiotic and callous he appears.
I am so glad you are doing well, Cha. Mahalo.
❤ lmsp
Cha
(297,126 posts)for the on the ground report.
So Sorry about the Gov DeSantis.. yeah, the "faux outrage" as you so correctly put it.. is a dead give away for it's not as rosy as he paints it in Florida.. including what I've read they've done to the Unemployment Agency.
BeSafe!❤
Roland99
(53,342 posts)20k LESS test results than yesterday but 3x the positive cases
Cha
(297,126 posts)So Sorry
gibraltar72
(7,502 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)it's hot, and the virus will die out in the heat. At least that's what 'Dear Leader' says.
DenverJared
(457 posts)Many of them will develop a distaste for the koolaid when their loved ones are on ventilators.
patphil
(6,169 posts)Maeve
(42,279 posts)ancianita
(36,019 posts)Thanks, Cha. The country should know what a lying cesspool Republicans make of this state.
Yesterday, unmasked dupes in my town filled the local Cipriano's, a couple of tables of ten, served by unmasked servers. I'll never do carryout business there again.
The truth is on lockdown and all the data from Florida here are lies.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida
Aussie105
(5,377 posts)No new cases since 3 weeks ago.
Last person to be in hospital with COVID-19 recovered and left hospital yesterday, after 4 weeks of treatment.
Borders still closed, other states report new cases, all less than 10.
We have it under control.
We don't have Republicans here in Australia. Might those 2 facts be linked?
A lot of businesses are clamoring to be allowed to open up. Restaurants and other eateries are limited to 10 inside, 10 outside.
Middle of cold season here, who wants to be outside though?
Most venues aren't opening, not viable to open up for 10 people when the venue can cater for hundreds. Lights on, 30 staff, 10 customers? Kitchen operational?
Does not compute!
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Looks like 1,200 isn't a one off down in Florida.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429
la-trucker
(283 posts)who refused to let them doctor the numbers!
They'll woe the day they did that.
oasis
(49,376 posts)has ever told a lie that anyone with an ounce of sense would believe.
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)and has even ended up in the hospital, blind for 3 days because her optic nerves were inflamed, had exacerbations that affected her heart . . . her lungs.
I'm just terrified of what will happen if she gets it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and proud. What she went through with that bout! Sounds like her chances of not getting it are hopefully good, though, at her age and as smart and aware as she must be.
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)I worry so much in this instance because Covid is in some great part a disease of inflammatory dysfunction, especially in younger people it would seem. (My youngest is 30 ACK HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?). So her disorder plus Covid . . . . it's unthinkable.
I really am grateful for your kindness.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)On the plus side, perhaps she might quality to be among the earliest to get it. So she can get on with what should be her normal life. 30's a great age. I'd be happy to do 30 again.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)This weekend!
I'm so furious I can't see straight.
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2020/05/21/county-oks-return-youth-sports-tournaments-viera-stadium-complex/5234662002/