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kentuck

(111,508 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:20 AM May 2020

When everything is analyzed and laid on the table...

When everyone is blaming Donald Trump for the condition of this country, they are looking under the wrong rock, in my opinion.

The problem is with the US Senate, most specifically, Mitch McConnell. Chuck Schumer is unable to communicate with him on anything. Mitch McConnell has let this country deteriorate to the point of total disillusionment.

Our problem sits in the US Senate. It could have been very easy to use a little oversight of the Executive Branch but McConnell gave him a free ride. Of all people that should never be given a free ride to do whatever he wants, it is Donald Trump.

To understand our problem, we need to look at the source, in my opinion.

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When everything is analyzed and laid on the table... (Original Post) kentuck May 2020 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #1
Link doesn't work. Demsrule86 May 2020 #2
It is absolutely Trump's fault...seriously ? Demsrule86 May 2020 #3
The root of the problem is endemic to the Repub party... Wounded Bear May 2020 #4
+1 to both. Thank goodness some realize the grave danger Hortensis May 2020 #6
But Trump only does it when he is not challenged. kentuck May 2020 #7
Thank You for this post...McConnell is as much of the problem as is Trump. Stuart G May 2020 #5
If we take it down another denominator.. kentuck May 2020 #8
All of it, repeat, all of it, warmfeet May 2020 #9
I think you are correct. kentuck May 2020 #10
Your post really resonates with me. BlueMTexpat May 2020 #11
True, but there is no reason at all BlueMTexpat May 2020 #12
No. kentuck May 2020 #13
Wrong about Schumer DownriverDem May 2020 #14

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Demsrule86

(69,358 posts)
3. It is absolutely Trump's fault...seriously ?
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:49 AM
May 2020

McConnell shares the blame...but don't excuse Trump...please as there is no excuse for Trump.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. +1 to both. Thank goodness some realize the grave danger
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

won't just go away with Trump.

The GOP's McConnell and company threw in with the new kleptocracy they helped create, and which put them in power for that purpose. Which also fostered social and religious extremism among RW voters to harness and to divide and conquer the electorate. Trump's merely a rather outstanding symptom of the pathology that's taken over on the right and embedded at all levels in almost every conservative-controlled government in the nation.

kentuck

(111,508 posts)
7. But Trump only does it when he is not challenged.
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

There has to be just a little bit of challenge from the US Senate, in my opinion.

The accomplice makes it possible for the criminal to continue his pursuits. Trump does not get an excuse.

Stuart G

(38,650 posts)
5. Thank You for this post...McConnell is as much of the problem as is Trump.
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:15 AM
May 2020

Maybe more of the problem. As you said, "McConnell has let this country deteriorate to the point of total
disillusionment"....and just as important....maybe more important...McConnell is a true reflection of Trump...
...........He only cares about one person, himself!!

kentuck

(111,508 posts)
8. If we take it down another denominator..
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:57 AM
May 2020

...it is up to the people of Kentucky to realize what type of person Mitch McConnell really is and to replace him in the next election.

Most Kentuckians take their politics very seriously. And they do not always follow Party lines.

Let us hope they replace one of the most useless politicians ever.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
9. All of it, repeat, all of it,
Sat May 23, 2020, 08:05 PM
May 2020

is symptomatic of a failed form of government - our form of government. Our two party system is not codified into law. The constitution says nothing specifically about two parties only. George Washington famously warned of political parties. Yet, the constitution does make it clear that the winner takes it all - power is not shared, the majority party has all the power. This guarantees a two party system. Two party systems guarantee that the two parties will nearly always be at odds with each other, and their supporters as well. On rare occasions, they may cooperate - this is not the norm.

The senate is not a democratic institution. It would require radical alteration to become one - a constitutional amendment.

I am a hard core, lefty, liberal progressive. I vote for Democrats up and down the ballot, every election. I wish I knew how to get past the structural defects in our system of government, but I do not.

At this point, I am having a difficult time seeing this country as anything but a failed state. I will keep working to change things, I will continue to vote for Democrats, but things do not look good at this point. Relative to the rest of developed countries, we are doing very poorly in the majority of metrics.

BlueMTexpat

(15,417 posts)
11. Your post really resonates with me.
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:25 AM
May 2020

We must change our political structure completely.

It is absolutely devastating to see have fast we have devolved.

BlueMTexpat

(15,417 posts)
12. True, but there is no reason at all
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:26 AM
May 2020

to let Trump off. He and McConnell deserve to be cellmates.

Forever.

DownriverDem

(6,331 posts)
14. Wrong about Schumer
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:39 AM
May 2020

I disagree with your opinion. You need to focus on the repubs not the Dems. The Dems do not control the Senate. Do some research on how the Senate works. If you did you would not attack the Senate Dems.

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