I HATE TRUMP: REVISITED

[Divad123]

Last edited Sat May 23, 2020, 12:52 AM - Edit history (1)

A few days ago, I was talking with my sister, who I love dearly, and the topic of Trump came up. Now, I didn’t push it, but she wound up saying, “oh, you just hate Trump”.
I momentarily “Lacked sufficient flow of words” and changed the topic. But it got me thinking.
So many time ‘Trumpers’ dismiss folks who didn’t drink the cool aid by saying “oh, you just hate Trump”. For them I have this question: If a drunk driver killed your mother in an accident, would you exonerate the drunk driver of any responsibility for what they did, just because you hated them?
I hate Trump, not because he’s a disgusting excuse for a human being, but because of what he’s done with the power of the highest office in America.
From a book I’m reading:
“In civilian and military life, criticizing demeaning or degrading moral practices is often precisely the form that acting from moral conscience takes.”
Sherman, Nancy. Stoic Warriors (p. 47). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.
In my own words:
The republicans promote a twisted view of is of the world and culture we live in. Everyone should go to church, wave the flag, believe that any social program is communism, have a heterosexual marriage, and vote to lower their taxes. Anything else is at least immoral, and probably demonic. And I can add that while we are all equal under the law, wealthy while males are ‘more’ equal. This is the ‘ideal’ that they sell with the fervor of Elmer Gantry.
Republicans have used this propaganda to cripple the middle class, create corporations and individuals more powerful than governments, promote and normalize ‘white (male) power’ fanatics, and mainstream the John Birch Society.
So, what’s their endgame?
They work for a world where only ‘the worthy people’, the heroes, people like the Koch brothers, have influence over our lives—as opposed to votes by the ‘parasites’ who want a (communistic) welfare state.
It’s their patriotic duty to deny the right to vote to people who need some form of (communistic) social programs to get by. Or folks motivated by (communistic) social justice, or folks motivated by (communistic) economic justice concerns, or folks who need the (communistic) Affordable Care Act. If it takes accepting assistance from an enemy power to win an election, destroying and corrupting our institutions, and promoting dangerous conspiracy theories, then so be it. To them, it’s better than having any social program, because they see them as corrupting our nations moral fiber by enabling ‘parasites’.
Like climate deniers and creationists, they ignore and/or distort evidence from all sciences, but in this case, the social sciences.
A large part of our personal identity is formed by our social interactions, and while adults can rise above and critique these ‘filters’ that guide expression and give shape to our experiences, few folks understand the core issue: that beyond our enlightened self-interest, if you care about the world your children will live in, you have to consider the quality of the culture we live in.
Are our heroes going to be from ‘Real Housewives’ and ‘Honey Boo Boo’, or will they be Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Gandhi, Presidents Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Obama?
The degenerate from ‘The Apprentice’, Fox News, and the republican establishment have already made up their minds, and the armed thugs that stormed the Michigan state house have already shown us how their ideology will be put into practice, on the rest of us.
So, yes, I hate Trump, Fox News, and the republican establishment, not because they’re disgusting human beings, but because they have proved over and over again what their ‘culture war’, at the heart of their ideology, means for the rest of us.
Civilization is not just at a crossroads, it’s literally in their cross hairs.
Peace

[Laelth]

1. I have been thinking about this since you posted the first version.

I think my uncensored response would be, “Don’t you? You’re just plain stupid if you don’t.”

Then silence.

-Laelth

[pink]

2. I hate Trump

and I dont even live in your country. His tentacles spread throughout the world. Also, he makes Australia's right wing government look good by comparison, and for me, thats not good. If you dont flush that turd on November 3rd, I think I might curl up in a fetal position and stay that way until covid-19 eventually takes him out.

[leftieNanner]

3. I cannot even imagine what I would do if he won this fall

Can I come and live with you in Australia? I was there in 1991, but only saw a small bit. Lots more to explore.

I hate Trump too.

[pink]

9. It is truly a beautiful country

with some of the best social services in the world. We have a great health system which the right wing Liberal Party has been trying to get rid of for years. In my part of the country (South Coast of NSW) we were recently ravaged by bush fires, which followed a 4 year drought. Since that happened, we had a flood and then covid. I live in a beachside holiday area and following all those events many businesses have gone to the wall.

By comparison to your country led by Trump, we have only just recorded our 100th death to covid-19. We are 1/9th of your population but with bipartisan rulings we got on top of it immediately. We are starting to open up again. We will be going into winter on June 1st and I cant see any increase in covid numbers on the horizon.

I really do hope you can get back to this country, most Aussies are very proud of it.

[leftieNanner]

10. We spent a week in Cairns

Loved every minute of it! Only problem - I had just found out I was pregnant with my first child and could not drink any of the wonderful Australian wine!!

First day out on a boat tour on a river, my hat blew off into the water. The guide suggested that I NOT try to retrieve it. Crocs.

[pink]

12. I've been there once

Loved the train ride to Karandar. My husband and I lived at Noosa Heads for about 7 years which is further south in Queensland (summer all year round). Grew up in Sydney NSW and have lived for the past 32 years on the south coast NSW. All beautiful places.

[leftieNanner]

13. Oh, we did the Kuranda Rail trip too

You have a lovely country. I hope to get there again some day.

[leftieNanner]

4. Excellent!

Very well thought out post. And I agree with you.

It always stuns me that people vote for these Republicans who absolutely do not want to provide them with any support at all. Against their own self interest. Every time.

[MyOwnPeace]

5. Love the line I see here every now and then...........

"You're not in the 1% - quit voting like you are."

[Under The Radar]

6. This polarizing political fight isn't anything new....

I have been having this debate since Reagan’s first term, and I have found that when someone’s starts a political debate with me, I interrupt and give them my disclaimer; “before you go any further, I must tell you that you can not change my prospective on this subject and I have no desire to argue with you or care to change yours.”
From there you can dive straight into whether Michael Jordan is the GOAT instead of LeBron, or only a product of Nike’s PR firm.

[leftieNanner]

11. I'm a Warriors Fan (from way back when they were terrible)

So, on the court, LeBron is a goat. Off the court he's fantastic! (Evidence: last week's graduation event, and his very cool I Promise School)

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. I hate tRump more.

[Ilsa]

8. "I hate trump. With good reason." nt