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https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Texas-mayor-defends-belief-that-women-shouldn-t-15288655.phpDALLAS Wylie, Texas, Mayor Eric Hogue says he believes women can do anything and everything so long as they dont lead public displays of religion.
Hogue is defending his beliefs after the release of an email in which he requests that only male members of a Christian missionary group say a prayer before a City Council meeting.
The exchange between Hogue and the citys mayor pro tem, Jeff Forrester, was posted Wednesday on a Facebook page that focuses on the citys politics.
On Sunday, Hogue replied, saying it was a good idea as long as those leading the public prayer be young men.
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The mayor also quoted a passage from 1 Timothy that says, Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Hogue wrote that he has always asked for men to lead invocation, while acknowledging that not everyone may agree with me, but I cant go against my conscience.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)This jag off is an aberration, but typical of -MAGAats all over North Texas. Just damned deplorable!!
Demovictory9
(32,455 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)stunned us. We don't do Twitter but it is nice to know he is. Personal opinion? He should step down or be removed immediately.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)most citizens do not believe their mayor's role includes imposing his religious beliefs on them. This should not BE a matter of conscience for him as it's out of his perview, but it should be for the voters.
Apparently he's been getting away with it for some while before blabbing in writing about it in the internet age. He's been mayor since 2008. Or could be he's just gotten bolder as the party of white male Christian supremacy has become more aggressive.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I do not know what most citizens in Wylie, Texas believe.
Clearly, they elected this jagoff as their mayor.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but religious communities they establish for themselves alone. That's because its basis is in personality, and most just aren't prone. Even in TX or in my blood-red GA Bible belt town.
But maybe just consider that half are women and that being foolish enough to put this in writing everyone can see is causing this mayor trouble, and that should at least provide a couple of jumping-off clues -- without even considering that men are far less likely than women to adopt strict religious views that depart radically from common culture. Again, even TX's.
Did I mention that the white Christian male Republican Party is purging Republican women from elective office these days? To the point, that it's finally being noticed and seen as the hostile threat by conservative women. Their house delegation of 196 has now shrunk from very small to 13 (!), and every one of those 13 is angry and embattled. Being an extremely small minority means no power and, not surprisingly under the circumstances, these minority members have been the targets of a big increase in workplace hostility.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Its extremely common among a fairly wide spectrum of conservative Protestant congregations which pretty much dominate the religious landscape in suburban belt areas of large southern cities - particularly in Texas.
It would not surprise me if this were a dominant belief in that area - including among women in such congregations. There is no shortage of women who subscribe to this set of beliefs.
But, yes, the GOP is an ever-shrinking circle.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Is it in the Bible? If they're following the Bible literally, I don't recall a Commandment, "Thou shalt pray before all public meetings and football games." If they think it's mandatory, can any religion pray? I've got a great one from the "Book of Satan" that would fit right in.
procon
(15,805 posts)Get on with the business of governing. If individuals have an overweening need to pray then do so as an individual choice and do not force a unilateral religious belief on the body politic.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)or any of the other many aggressive means of claiming America for Christianity they leap to.
Just a few years ago our conservative-dominated Supreme Court ruled that opening civic meetings with prayer was constitutional. People who didn't like that imposition of religion being free to either shut up or to leave and no longer participate in civic events.
Nature Man
(869 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)as long as those leading the public prayer be young men. why specifically "young"
DFW
(54,378 posts)Women shouldn't lead prayers at a city council. Men shouldn't, either.
Prayers have no business at a public city council meeting.