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I've had cancer twice. This family is training their child to kill me. (Original Post) kpete May 2020 OP
Yeah who needs medical care when you've got Jesus on your side? Initech May 2020 #1
Shh. Just don't tell them that Jesus has forsaken them and will never return during their lifetime. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #59
Pictures of 2 very stupid parents..More stupid than anyone can know... Stuart G May 2020 #2
Step in front of a bus because God's got you covered. Mister Ed May 2020 #3
So if their kid dies will the parents thank their god? TeamPooka May 2020 #4
It will be gawd's will. You can't argue with that. Arkansas Granny May 2020 #6
"Daddy was such a good man GAWD took Maru Kitteh May 2020 #15
"God works in mysterious ways." plimsoll May 2020 #25
Some day she'll grow up and realize what horrible things her family has taught her. Girard442 May 2020 #5
Look at her face, that is not an actual smile TNNurse May 2020 #26
Programming/indoctrinating. eom sprinkleeninow May 2020 #52
If God had us covered,we wouldn't have had covid to begin with. LisaL May 2020 #7
Exactly! Rebl2 May 2020 #10
Wait for it... Grokenstein May 2020 #32
They use a many sided argument. They would say God gave us covid19 to teach us an important Blue_true May 2020 #56
If God Rebl2 May 2020 #8
They died because their belief wasn't strong enough mercuryblues May 2020 #62
Where was God for the 350,000 people worldwide that are now dead? tulipsandroses May 2020 #9
I guess God didn't want to bother with the 100,000 in the US who died, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
Sad sacks all Solly Mack May 2020 #12
If God had not expected people to think Frances May 2020 #13
God created science so we could learn to protect ourselves demigoddess May 2020 #19
Natural selection will sort this out for us. Have patience. bullimiami May 2020 #14
I'm beginning to believe that large parts of our society has no use for us old people. Sucha NastyWoman May 2020 #18
I wish they would cite... Newest Reality May 2020 #16
moms wearing glasses, probably daughter has had braces, born in hospital... this is family that Demovictory9 May 2020 #17
Don't forget things like engineering and a grivulture, just to name a few. niyad May 2020 #42
exactly. Demovictory9 May 2020 #53
Proud home-schooling parents. iemitsu May 2020 #20
idiots pamdb May 2020 #21
Ask the young lady how she explains away the nearly 100K reported deaths in her country? Brainfodder May 2020 #22
Do they tell her not to wear a bicycle helmet? Or seatbelt? How about surgery? lostnfound May 2020 #23
Pelosi said it best Shermann May 2020 #24
Play in traffic with a blindfold, because God's got you covered mellow May 2020 #27
With a body bag. nt Xipe Totec May 2020 #38
He must have missed the other 350k...wonder how He chooses? jmg257 May 2020 #28
They're training her to be a moron. cp May 2020 #29
Crazy land Joinfortmill May 2020 #30
Do they think God was too stupid to come up with masks? Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #31
They don't understand how faith works ecstatic May 2020 #33
Proud parents. GeorgeGist May 2020 #34
This is truly ignorant lettucebe May 2020 #35
Church sign: we welcome God's victims Danmel May 2020 #36
... Celerity May 2020 #61
Pity they cannot be charged with child abuse and endangerment. Or attempted murder. niyad May 2020 #37
The God I believe in gave me a brain and that brain tells me to wear a mask. nt iluvtennis May 2020 #39
Which god, people? Paul says there are many, but one head honcho. If you look at the Karadeniz May 2020 #40
Tell that to the 343,513 global dead or the 100,000 US dead by Convid19. Fla Dem May 2020 #41
Leave your guns at home. smirkymonkey May 2020 #43
Stay out in that bright sunlight long enough and their god will leave a mark. KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #44
"Got you covered" in 6 feet of dirt. BamaRefugee May 2020 #45
BBut I bet dad carries a gun. RandySF May 2020 #46
Every time that I see some variant of "god will protect me, so I don't have to take any niyad May 2020 #47
God seems to have uncovered almost 100,000 here in America. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #48
These people are selfish GD idiots Trueblue Texan May 2020 #49
You know what god did? matt819 May 2020 #50
Are they against hospital care too, since God has them covered? IronLionZion May 2020 #51
You know... Squidly May 2020 #54
Covering their faces shouldn't be anything new to them pink May 2020 #55
"We're not thinking with our brains here..." Blue Owl May 2020 #57
God gave us masks In It to Win It May 2020 #58
I just don't understand thinking like this and its in my own family Shiv May 2020 #60
Thank you for sharing your story. I don't understand, either. Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #63
Welcome to DU mercuryblues May 2020 #64
Noah wore a mask. 7wo7rees May 2020 #65

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
3. Step in front of a bus because God's got you covered.
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:43 PM
May 2020

Last edited Sun May 24, 2020, 07:56 PM - Edit history (2)

Drink bleach because God's got you covered.

This nation is dying of ignorance. Willful ignorance.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
25. "God works in mysterious ways."
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:10 PM
May 2020

So, some of them might thank god (deliberately uncapitalized.) Others will say the quote in the title.

Essentially they have an explanation, that doesn't actually explain anything.

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
5. Some day she'll grow up and realize what horrible things her family has taught her.
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020

What will she say to them then?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. They use a many sided argument. They would say God gave us covid19 to teach us an important
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:05 AM
May 2020

lesson. Then they will quote a rehearsed bible verse.

Honestly, one will get farther debating a mule that trying to reason with one of them.

Rebl2

(13,485 posts)
8. If God
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:49 PM
May 2020

has you covered, why have there been so many people die from this virus including evangelicals?

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
9. Where was God for the 350,000 people worldwide that are now dead?
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:49 PM
May 2020

Did God think they were not worth it?

These so called religious folks and conspiracy theorists will be the ruin of mankind.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
11. I guess God didn't want to bother with the 100,000 in the US who died,
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:52 PM
May 2020

or, for that matter, the 345,000 people around the world. If God didn't care about any of them, what makes you think you're so special? I saw a dumb meme on my Facebook feed that said "Who here believes that God has protected you and your loved ones through these months of pandemic? Thank you, Lord! I believe!" I didn't bother to comment; there's never any point in arguing with that kind of nonsense - but the first thing that came to mind was the question, "why didn't God protect all those people who got sick or died and their loved ones?" The idea that God (assuming he/she/it exists at all) randomly "protects" some people and not others is offensive and even theologically absurd. To the anti-maskers: God hasn't got you, but maybe covid-19 does.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
13. If God had not expected people to think
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:54 PM
May 2020

He would not have given them a brain
Jesus said, “Love your neighbor”
Anyone who is a follower of Jesus should wear a mask
Anyone who doesn’t wear a mask is supporting Trump, who is the least like Jesus of any President in US history

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
19. God created science so we could learn to protect ourselves
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:15 PM
May 2020

and others. He is sorely disappointed with these people.

bullimiami

(13,083 posts)
14. Natural selection will sort this out for us. Have patience.
Sun May 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
May 2020

Not enough to kill themselves and their children but they demand the right to take anyone down with them.
Very sick society we have.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,745 posts)
18. I'm beginning to believe that large parts of our society has no use for us old people.
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:14 PM
May 2020

They just could care less.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
16. I wish they would cite...
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:06 PM
May 2020

I wish they would cite the place in their bible where God said: Let there be stupid!

We can know. When we know that can be wise or lead to wisdom. The parables of Jesus are like Koans and the Psalms were a collection of some wise writings for their time, not dumb ass jokes and stupid memes.

Jesus was into wacky shit, like, "Be wise as servants." and, "Get ye wisdom." McChristians don't even get their religion and really have no sense of shame about doing the good and sometimes deep aspects of it justice. They are taking it down and making it obsolete for the most part and blaming it on others. That is what is called shameful, especially when you train children in misinterpretations and self-centered dumbfuckery.

I bet they don't even know that the original meaning of the word, sin is more like "to miss the mark" and that to repent means to "turn around". So, even "repent ye sinners" has a significant meaning that is beyond mere judgements, customs and misunderstandings.

Sigh.

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
17. moms wearing glasses, probably daughter has had braces, born in hospital... this is family that
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:08 PM
May 2020

has relied on science their whole lives as most Americans have but for C-19, suddenly prayer instead of science?

Why doesn't mom toss her glasses and just pray for better eye sight?

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
20. Proud home-schooling parents.
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:33 PM
May 2020

They will make sure their daughter does not learn to think for herself.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
21. idiots
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:39 PM
May 2020


Having worked in an urban public library for over 30 years, I can only say
what I've said before, maybe there needs to be license to breed. We need one
for everything else.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
22. Ask the young lady how she explains away the nearly 100K reported deaths in her country?
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:40 PM
May 2020

That and where do I pick up the check to cover the C-19 expenses?

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
23. Do they tell her not to wear a bicycle helmet? Or seatbelt? How about surgery?
Sun May 24, 2020, 02:53 PM
May 2020

Last edited Sun May 24, 2020, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

If one of the parents need surgery someday and the surgeon shows up in T-shirt and with no mask or gloves or gown, are they okay with that too?

Shermann

(7,411 posts)
24. Pelosi said it best
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:00 PM
May 2020

“And for those who say we choose prayer over science, I say science is an answer to our prayers.”

Theists don't have to be science deniers.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
31. Do they think God was too stupid to come up with masks?
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:17 PM
May 2020

Disclaimer: I'm a non-theist. God isn't in the equation for me, just addressing their massive cognitive dissonance.

But really. If God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, then maybe COVID-fucking-19 wouldn't exist. But if it is some sort of "test," we're failing spectacularly.

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
33. They don't understand how faith works
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:20 PM
May 2020

Faith must be coupled with action (i.e., wearing masks) and common sense.

Karadeniz

(22,492 posts)
40. Which god, people? Paul says there are many, but one head honcho. If you look at the
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:54 PM
May 2020

Prodigal Son, the father god at the top never helped his son wallowing amid the swine. This is Christian theology, not the personal, god knows everything about me, god controls everything, god will work on my behalf and bail me out when the swine sty becomes unbearable.

Fla Dem

(23,637 posts)
41. Tell that to the 343,513 global dead or the 100,000 US dead by Convid19.
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:54 PM
May 2020

Even if you don't die, which percentage wise most don't; 5,367,675 global cases recorded, the illness is very difficult and there may be life long complications.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
44. Stay out in that bright sunlight long enough and their god will leave a mark.
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
May 2020

Either sunburn or skin cancer.........


Some special heavenly protection that would be.....

niyad

(113,232 posts)
47. Every time that I see some variant of "god will protect me, so I don't have to take any
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:04 PM
May 2020

responsibility (like morbidly obese drumpfenfuhrer), I think about the story of a town flooding, and the rowboat, the speedboat, and the helicopter. Sighhhh.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
49. These people are selfish GD idiots
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:17 PM
May 2020

Not to mention arrogant and ignorant. Truly the worst combinations in human beings.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
50. You know what god did?
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:29 PM
May 2020

If you believe.

God gave you scientists and doctors and manufacturers and leaders to guide you.

Here’s some questions for these so-called Christians. Do you take pills for headaches or allergies? Vitamins? Antacids? Do you use creams for moisturizing or skin conditions? Do you use ace bandages or wraps for joint pain? High blood pressure? Low blood pressure? Exercise? Hormones for mom? Viagra for dad? Morning coffee for the caffeine?

If the answer to any of these is yes, then you’re hypocrites, and I’d say you’re stupid, lousy parents possibly engaged in child abuse. Get back up us when any of you get sick.

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
51. Are they against hospital care too, since God has them covered?
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
May 2020

Doctors and nurses wear masks. So these people should refuse care. And they must forego health insurance and any government health programs.

I like telling these people that this is the rapture and they've been left behind with us sinners.

I don't wish this deadly virus upon anyone. But it does seem like it's much higher risk of catching it if one associates with these types of people who are eager to spread it. I stopped going to Church around a decade ago and live a mostly introverted life. Being surrounded by sinful urban liberals might be what saves me.

Squidly

(783 posts)
54. You know...
Sun May 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
May 2020

This is the ONLY reason why I would hope and pray that everything they believe in about their mythical rapture was true...so all of them would just fucking disappear from the planet...then in MY version, Jesus would reappear on earth in the form of Prince and we can all just party like its 1999!!!

pink

(497 posts)
55. Covering their faces shouldn't be anything new to them
Sun May 24, 2020, 11:59 PM
May 2020

Thats what they do when they put their KKK hoods on.

Shiv

(113 posts)
60. I just don't understand thinking like this and its in my own family
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:29 AM
May 2020

My dad is a cancer survivor who is on /that/ side.

I really wanted to post this train of thought I had interrupted to social media after an argument with my father that he ended abruptly. Was wisely advised that was a bad, bad idea, so here I am.

I had heard from other family that, unlike the seriousness he was treating things with initially, that he was now downplaying everything and said such as "God didn't let me die to my cancer, he won't let me die to this". Ignore the fact that doctors and access to medicaid played a major factor... I wont get into the talking points I heard when trying to get through to him, suffice to say they were easily recognizable and involved tracking chips. Though, oddly in the tests not the vaccine.

Of course, it turns out he is still protecting himself but not once did he stop me to point that out to calm or reassure me. I realize of course it's one thing to espouse foolish beliefs, it's another to broadcast them while staying at home or still keeping to protective measures you've been practicing right along. Oh well.

I apologize if this is the wrong place, long-time over-the-shoulder lurker. This thought was designed to make a point within my family about what we're all dealing with, I don't wish it to start an argument here or offend. Just needed a like-minded and supportive environment to get it out of my head, mostly.

Here goes the unpolished thought-chain I got cut off on now turned-venting and maybe someone else will feel like making something helpful of it:

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There are 2555 days in seven years. Right now, around 1400 Americans have been dying on average daily during the pandemic, even under some amount of stay-at-home and isolation orders meant, where-so ordered, to save as many lives as possible. The virus has gone exactly nowhere, and reopening where not based on advisable conditions has begun increasing numbers in previously less affected areas. 6.5 million divided by 2555 works out to 2544 daily deaths. That is math. That is not opinion, belief or feeling. That is quantitatively comparable. The deaths are dispropriatently affecting the poor, the disabled, minorities and the elderely. Also mathematically demonstrated, not opinion, belief or feeling. That is qualitatively comparable. The pace has and will accelerate by the end, large numbers have been pressed into unsafe work conditions before some share of them dying, and in the worst areas, what to do with the remains is its own scale of horror, which wont dissuade the obvious counterpoints but there it is. If you do not understand my reference to 6.5 million, or 7 years, you have apparently forgotten.

We. Were. Supposed. To. Never. Forget.

#Covid19DenialKills
#Holocaust45
#Nuremberg2021
(negligence, if believable, is not a defense, my understanding is it only affects the charges. or perhaps sentencing)

P.S. If you have thought that 1400 average number increasing by a thousand is unlikely, kindly remember only one out of three people that have died have died in the U.S., where the outcome is so far the worst of any nation on earth and the denial is amongst the most dangerous, Brazil not-withstanding.

For some solace or hope I would recommend Matthew 18:20 and suggest any distance is not a limiting factor.
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Rhiannon12866

(205,122 posts)
63. Thank you for sharing your story. I don't understand, either.
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:08 AM
May 2020

Religious folks are supporting a man who has no faith, lies whenever he speaks and never attends church.

Welcome to DU! We're glad to have you with us!

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
64. Welcome to DU
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:46 AM
May 2020

Last edited Tue May 26, 2020, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Think about it like a racket, pyramid scam. The money flows up.

This type of personality is emblematic of sheeple. They find it easier for someone over them on the totem pole telling them what to do or think, than have to digest information from many sources, including those sources that don't fit into their belief code. It is easier to say "God's will" than to look in a mirror and be honest with themselves. They decry participation trophies, but demand one from their God.

It always amazes me when their God hates the same people they do.

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