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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Mon May 25, 2020, 04:54 PM May 2020

Trump-1989- Three casino execs set to testify against him, killed in plane crash

Last edited Mon May 25, 2020, 07:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Here's what brought this story to light.

Trump's just an old mobster by nature & this business with Scarborough is more about the danger of how Trump does business than it is about Joe Scarborough.









FROM THE ARTICLE:

https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/gallery/oct-10-1989-3-trump-execs-2-pilots-die-as-helicopter-crashes-in-parkway-median/article_40ea7e95-9309-5e01-89ba-7f6c30409ff3.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Oct. 10, 1989: 3 Trump execs, 2 pilots die as helicopter crashes in Parkway median


EDIT to add DU cross ref link:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016256477

Tinker, Tailor, Mobster, Trump
What happens when a Confidential Informant becomes President?


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Trump-1989- Three casino execs set to testify against him, killed in plane crash (Original Post) Budi May 2020 OP
Murder Stays Open, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #1
Meanwhile, no AG, Democratic or Republican has seen a case to charge in 30 years... brooklynite May 2020 #6
So What, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #14
"This stuff doesn't have to be true..." brooklynite May 2020 #17
Look Around You, Sir --- Clearly It Does Not The Magistrate May 2020 #21
Which voters will be convinced by your story-telling? brooklynite May 2020 #25
Nobody Has To Be Convinced, Sir, Conviction Is Not The Point The Magistrate May 2020 #36
I agree with you Squidly May 2020 #40
I remember DENVERPOPS May 2020 #48
I'm with you, Magistrate........... MyOwnPeace May 2020 #31
"set loose in twitter feeds and on facebook " Yup.Make it trend everywhere, all day, watch him freak Budi May 2020 #18
It definitely looks like a criminal act in which Trump would be involved. oasis May 2020 #2
In Steve O'Donnell's book "Trumped," he recounted at the funeral of one of those employees no_hypocrisy May 2020 #3
Trump had plenty of mob connections to make this "accident" happen. dalton99a May 2020 #4
Everyone I talk to says he was involved. Many, many people are saying that. Good People! (nt) mr_lebowski May 2020 #5
DAMN, you're good! MyOwnPeace May 2020 #32
Unless Biden Was Involved, The Media Won't Care sfstaxprep May 2020 #7
I can't prove it, but I know he did it. smirkymonkey May 2020 #8
I doubt that he actually got his hands dirty to do it himself. But wasn't his buddy joey "no socks" niyad May 2020 #24
That's what I think. That he arranged it, but didn't do it himself. smirkymonkey May 2020 #29
Yeah Squidly May 2020 #41
BOOM! BComplex May 2020 #43
S.O.P by now DFW May 2020 #9
don't forget the 13 y/o anti-nuke anti-reagan samantha smith, about to hit it certainot May 2020 #23
Ghouliani, Barr involved I wonder? Friends in certain places. BSdetect May 2020 #10
As reminder.... BGBD May 2020 #11
Thugs like Trump, Putin and MbS never actually do things, they hire others to do their dirtywork. sop May 2020 #12
Obama did it. sellitman May 2020 #13
Maybe James Comey will come forward DENVERPOPS May 2020 #19
The entire republican party is tied up in trump's corruption at this point. Russia BComplex May 2020 #44
And two complete bystanders died... collateral damage to Trump renate May 2020 #15
I've always believed that what Putin has on tRUMP is not $ but; SayItLoud May 2020 #16
No Squidly May 2020 #42
Bingo. And his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and his choice of Alex Acosta for Labor secy BComplex May 2020 #45
Somewhere DENVERPOPS May 2020 #47
Spread this far and wide; maybe some truth will seep down into the sewer. malchickiwick May 2020 #20
there used to be a website with a comprehensive eye opening list of death by plane crash certainot May 2020 #22
Suspicious deaths are not limited to Trump. Lonestarblue May 2020 #27
True. Duppers May 2020 #39
I remember it well. DU was all over this story at the time, and subsequently followed BComplex May 2020 #46
The vast majority of conspiracy ideation's are complete bullshit. warmfeet May 2020 #26
Be careful warm feet DENVERPOPS May 2020 #49
More of this story at DU link.. Budi May 2020 #28
Adding PCIntern's thread from this morning malaise May 2020 #30
Thank you for adding PCIntern's link. Appears this story is quickly being re-told Budi May 2020 #33
Simple story - anytime you point one finger at someone else malaise May 2020 #34
Why isn't the MSM bitting on this??? WTHELL??? a kennedy May 2020 #35
A story/conspiracy theory that's 30 years old? brooklynite May 2020 #37
"Some People Say" works both ways. not_the_one May 2020 #38

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
1. Murder Stays Open, Sir
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:00 PM
May 2020

There is no statute of limitations, and it is never too late to set up a hue and cry.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
14. So What, Sir
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:15 PM
May 2020

Still a nifty charge to make, and the old cui bono works like a charm for many.

This stuff doesn't have to be true, that ought to be obvious to anyone by now. It would be a fun thing to set loose in twitter feeds and on facebook --- trump murders men about to go state's witness against him in money laundering case tied to crooked casinos. A useful smear....

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
21. Look Around You, Sir --- Clearly It Does Not
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

The air is thick with charges which are wholly fabricated, yet believed by millions, affecting not just public discourse but influencing behavior, from the voting booth clear down to the loon with a gun and a car.

A nice juicy charge of mob murder by the cheap thug would be splendid to have in the mix. It's laying right there, no reason not to pick it up and use it....

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
36. Nobody Has To Be Convinced, Sir, Conviction Is Not The Point
Mon May 25, 2020, 08:07 PM
May 2020

Some people will find their distaste and hatred for the cheap thug deepened by the idea he actually could be a murderous mobster. They will not necessarily believe it, but will enjoy thinking it, even saying it. Such reinforcement of existing conviction may contribute to the critical mass behind a decision to act, to volunteer for a campaign, to register, to vote.

Some supporters of the cheap thug will be enraged by the charge, and devote social media effort to 'debunking it', effort that won't be spent spreading their own smears, and there is research showing that 'debunking' often cements a preexisting belief rather than dispelling it. The very character of the people reacting with outrage to the claim will tend more than usually to reinforce its maybe being true, because many denouncing it will like the idea of Trump having killed these people, and in their heart of hearts will want the charge to be true. Surely the bigger than life Trump they worship, who looms with Rambo's muscles and Schwarzenegger's gatling mini-gun in dozens of internet graphics, would have some rats killed before they could do him any dirt.

Marketing depends on repetition, in the crudest analysis. What people hear, often, that sticks in their minds, and even if they disagree with something, even if they don't like it, it still may be something comes to their mind when a purchasing decision is made. People who don't pay a lot of attention may well recall having read somewhere Trump had some witnesses against him killed, if it is repeated often enough, and it will not go much against the predispositions of many regarding the cheap thug. It certainly could be some small portion of their final decision he is an unsavory and unfit person.

If people ever were swayed in their political behavior by reasoned argument, they are not so swayed now. The business of politics today is one of emotional manipulation, of burrowing in to the deeper layers of the mind like a tick beneath the skin.



DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
48. I remember
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:48 PM
May 2020

when they called Reagan the "Teflon" president. He didn't hold a candle to this Lardass.........

MyOwnPeace

(16,887 posts)
31. I'm with you, Magistrate...........
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:38 PM
May 2020

If one can "ask questions" about a case long closed (Joe Scarborough) - one can ask about a helicopter crash that killed people involved with a grifter - AKA - President of the United States.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. "set loose in twitter feeds and on facebook " Yup.Make it trend everywhere, all day, watch him freak
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

He can't get it off social media once its out there..
He can't answer for it so he'll screech "bias"!

Why not! He does this same thing to everyone else.
This story really needs to be seen by millions.

oasis

(49,150 posts)
2. It definitely looks like a criminal act in which Trump would be involved.
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:03 PM
May 2020

The man never had a conscience.

no_hypocrisy

(45,765 posts)
3. In Steve O'Donnell's book "Trumped," he recounted at the funeral of one of those employees
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:07 PM
May 2020

Trump sat there stoney-faced and remarked that &quot he) could never do that." When asked to clarify, whether he meant that he couldn't give a moving eulogy for his brother. No, responded Trump. He could never break down and weep, making himself look "like an asshole like that."

That's the material we're dealing with . . . . . . . .

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. I can't prove it, but I know he did it.
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:45 PM
May 2020

Or hired someone to do it. I would bet anything on it. What are the chances that people who were going to rat him out would have an "unfortunate accident". How convenient.

niyad

(112,424 posts)
24. I doubt that he actually got his hands dirty to do it himself. But wasn't his buddy joey "no socks"
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:03 PM
May 2020

a ."made man".

The orange MASS MURDERER certainly had/has the connections to have it done. Since we know all about his projections, I still think the police ought to at least look at some of the unsolved murders in NYC. Bring in some psychics to help narrow the search.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. That's what I think. That he arranged it, but didn't do it himself.
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:27 PM
May 2020

He's always had mob connections. There is no way he'd get his own hands dirty. He's probably paid off the NYPD as well to do a slip-shod investigation. Also, it's probably not the first time he has had people rubbed out who have gotten in his way. And I don't doubt that he will do it again.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. don't forget the 13 y/o anti-nuke anti-reagan samantha smith, about to hit it
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:01 PM
May 2020

big in hollywood while being world famous peace and anti -nuke spokesperson for kids around the world

she was the anti reagan and bad news for nukes and lasers in space

BSdetect

(8,989 posts)
10. Ghouliani, Barr involved I wonder? Friends in certain places.
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:51 PM
May 2020

Joe S should run with this on their show.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
11. As reminder....
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:03 PM
May 2020

Trump also lied afterword that he was supposed to be on the helicopter with them.

sop

(9,943 posts)
12. Thugs like Trump, Putin and MbS never actually do things, they hire others to do their dirtywork.
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:03 PM
May 2020

People to poison enemies, chop up journalists, toss opponents from fourth story windows and such. Maybe even sabotage helicopters.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
19. Maybe James Comey will come forward
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

And say he has an email from Hillary asking Obama to do it.....

That way, Comey could take credit for screwing up TWO elections.......

This entire RepubliCON administration has gotten so far beyond pathetic.......WASF

BComplex

(7,977 posts)
44. The entire republican party is tied up in trump's corruption at this point. Russia
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:33 PM
May 2020

paid for each and every one of their campaigns.

renate

(13,776 posts)
15. And two complete bystanders died... collateral damage to Trump
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:17 PM
May 2020

Those poor pilots and their families.

SayItLoud

(1,696 posts)
16. I've always believed that what Putin has on tRUMP is not $ but;
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:29 PM
May 2020

men in cement shoes info. You don't partner with the NY mob and the Russian mob and not have them take care of your sticky situations with cement shoes.

Squidly

(783 posts)
42. No
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:20 AM
May 2020

Im convinced the dirt is 100% sexual in nature, mainly involving minors. He wasnt spending so much time in eastern europe just for the pageants...you can count on that!!

BComplex

(7,977 posts)
45. Bingo. And his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and his choice of Alex Acosta for Labor secy
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

sealed it. All those children going missing and taken from their parents at the border is NOT a fluke or a mistake. Many of those children were trafficked and raped, and the trump family made money on it.

The slime in that family is total.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
47. Somewhere
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:42 PM
May 2020

else there is a revealing article about Donnie's ties to the Mafia for decades before he became president.
Bankrolling by the U.S. Mafia and the Russian Mafia, and Putin. What more could a person ask for???????

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
20. Spread this far and wide; maybe some truth will seep down into the sewer.
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

Still not low enough for the cultists however.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. there used to be a website with a comprehensive eye opening list of death by plane crash
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:57 PM
May 2020

it included many famous or relevant 'pests' to power, like samantha smith

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
27. Suspicious deaths are not limited to Trump.
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:23 PM
May 2020

The 2004 presidential race in Ohio was full of all kinds of irregularities, showing that the election was stolen for Bush.

“A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio's 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush.

The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio's vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash.”

Why would a server in Tennessee be used? Why would Trump have a server in Trump Tower connected to Alta Bank in Russia? Payments to Russian mob bosses? Republicans have been stealing elections for decades, and they’ve been able to get away it. We should be forewarned this fall.

BComplex

(7,977 posts)
46. I remember it well. DU was all over this story at the time, and subsequently followed
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

Karl Rove's relationship to the SmarTech server site. When Karl Rove tried to do it again against Obama, Anonymous evidently stepped in and made sure there were no surprises.

We really need Anonymous for the upcoming election since the russians have already hacked a couple of the state servers. The republican lead Senate investigation showed the Russians totally hacked Florida's central tabulators in 2016.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
26. The vast majority of conspiracy ideation's are complete bullshit.
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

That being said, keep it up if it brings this asshole down.

Fuck him up the rectum sideways, if it helps.

DENVERPOPS

(8,677 posts)
49. Be careful warm feet
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:00 PM
May 2020

I made a similar comment along the lines of your last sentence and got a major slap from the DU police.......AND they removed my posting........As you can imagine, there is not a lot more I can say about it........

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
28. More of this story at DU link..
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:26 PM
May 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016256477

Tinker, Tailor, Mobster, Trump
What happens when a Confidential Informant becomes President
?

by Greg Olear Mar 31
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
33. Thank you for adding PCIntern's link. Appears this story is quickly being re-told
Mon May 25, 2020, 07:41 PM
May 2020

& from what I'm seeing on twitter pages today, it is being picked up & shared .. hope it trends.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
34. Simple story - anytime you point one finger at someone else
Mon May 25, 2020, 08:05 PM
May 2020

three fingers are pointing at you. Fuck the Con!

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
38. "Some People Say" works both ways.
Tue May 26, 2020, 12:08 AM
May 2020

I, personally, believe it. So what if no AG/IG has filed charges... That is EXACTLY what he would do, if he could. I sure as hell think he could, and would. And not lose a wink of sleep over it.

He struts like he does because he knows he can get away with things.

The state of NY has known for decades about the turd's dirty dealings, yet have done nothing. Which is why I expect that will be the same result this time around, after Biden is in.

Put it out there. Get some journalists interested in it. Let's see what floats to the surface...

Meanwhile, let it stew in people's minds. Simmer. Slowly come to have a life of its own.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

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