Smile, Officer! I have you on video.

[MineralMan]

You'd think this lesson would have been learned by now by law enforcement people. I mean everyone today is walking around with a high-definition video camera in their pocket. Maybe even a 4K camera, actually.

You can't choke a man to death anymore without being on TV these days. There ought to be a law, you know?

[MissMillie]

1. Sad to say this, but

in some places it is illegal to video-record law enforcement (I'm pretty sure).

[MineralMan]

3. I don't think so. In fact, I know of no such place.

If you do, please provide some details about where such a place is.

I believe all that has been settled by the courts.

[Act_of_Reparation]

6. Define "settled"

Legally, filming/photographing in public places is protected speech.

But what does that mean, practically? If the cops arrest you, smash your camera, etc., etc., you lave legal recourse (if you can afford it) that may or may not materialize months to years after the fact.

[MissMillie]

9. I stand corrected

I guess the information I once heard on this is outdated... and decided in 2011 that it is a citizens right to record law enforcement as long as they do no interfere with the actions of the enforcement officers.

(It must have been something I heard a LONG time ago.)

[Mariana]

5. Some police like to try to order people to stop recording

and I think a few people have even been arrested and charged, but the ACLU says it is NOT illegal to record the cops in public.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/it-legal-photograph-or-videotape-police

[Demovictory9]

12. after these videos started to be commonplace, some states tried to make it illegal

[IronLionZion]

14. The ACLU will defend if they charge with nonconsensual recording laws

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/right-record-police-doesnt-disappear-when-you-put-your-phone-your-pocket

The ACLU's position is that it's protected by the 1st amendment.

[MissMillie]

15. I already corrected myself

At one point there were laws on the books but apparently things changed in 2011.

[uponit7771]

2. K&R, any LEO who gets caught doing this shit now should have their driver license revoked cause

... they're too stupid to drive.

The should know someone is looking at them that and body cams ... what mindset does it take to abuse people in the public in the first place but then to think no one has it on camera !!

WTF ?!

Dumb asses

[MineralMan]

4. Body camera videos are controlled by the law enforcement

people. Often, they don't become public until way after the fact. Public video recordings made by average citizens, though, generally get posted in public and can be viewed by everyone.

I've been fortunate enough never to witness any such thing, but I always have my phone with me, so if I do I'll be recording it.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Just think of before video

The police were murdering people with impunity for decades before cameras brought some measure of accountability. Charging, much less convicting a police officer of assault or murder was next to impossible without there being video. Suspect ends up dead from the interaction and there would always be 3 officers backing up the killer officer's account that the suspect resisted and was going for the officer's weapon, or something similar.

Even today, film of the crime is still no guarantee of justice.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. The fact that they haven't "learned their lesson" goes to show that they expect the system to

protect them. Which it often does.

[Demovictory9]

10. without the bystander video, they would have gotten away with it.

law enforcement's report "after taking him into custody, they noticed he was in medical distress". Nothing about the knee on the neck

[stillcool]

11. absolutely.

The crime is not murder, the crime is getting caught murdering.

[IronLionZion]

13. They still get away with murder enough times

despite damning video evidence