Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:42 PM May 2020

I Won't Re-Hire My Laid Off Workers Until I Can Test Them Frequently - Sorry Trump

Last edited Tue May 26, 2020, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

I can scale back my business and run it without my 7 employees as I have been doing. I am extremely busy and need help, but I want to do all I can to keep from getting sick. I can't hire anyone back unless I can test them two or three times a week. I don't care who tells me I need to "open up". I am very lucky to be able to be able to choose maximum safety when so many others (workers) have little control over their environment.

Sorry Trump. I ain't opening up until I can get affordable test kits, theraputics, or a vaccine. I didn't work my whole life to get sick and die because you laid off the Pandemic Response Team, and did nothing while the virus spread here for months. I mean nothing besides calling the virus a hoax and banning a few Chinese Nationals.

No test kits, no employees Trump.

I truly believe Trump is so stupid he doesn't understand this. I guess he figures most of America is as stupid has he is. Not here in Seattle.

23 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I Won't Re-Hire My Laid Off Workers Until I Can Test Them Frequently - Sorry Trump (Original Post) DanieRains May 2020 OP
I think a lot of business owners agree w/ you. Makes sense and is smart. SWBTATTReg May 2020 #1
I can't believe more people MyOwnPeace May 2020 #2
Sorry Trump? FBaggins May 2020 #3
It's Not Just Me Every Business Dealing With The Public Would Want To Be Sure No One Is Infected DanieRains May 2020 #6
And yet many of them have been open the whole time FBaggins May 2020 #8
This obamanut2012 May 2020 #7
K&R, THIS !!! Without frequent "want a test get a test" we're doing same thing we did in 1917. 100 uponit7771 May 2020 #4
If we had President Obama, President Hillary Clinton, or President Joe Biden, Blue_true May 2020 #11
+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #12
Good boss. Mine seem to be doing same because they have not called me after their 5/15 reassessment. LizBeth May 2020 #5
We probably have another 2-3 years of this craziness. roamer65 May 2020 #9
I simply set a policy that wearing a mask properly is an Blue_true May 2020 #10
will you test every hour? gnesta May 2020 #13
And Your Point Is, Ma'am? The Magistrate May 2020 #14
The point was self evident killaphill May 2020 #17
Self-Evident Points Aren't Worth Making, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #19
+1 ancianita May 2020 #22
Yes, please explain your concern. marble falls May 2020 #15
I don't see why we have drunk driving laws...can't catch all of them... Demsrule86 May 2020 #16
welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2020 #23
Man that sucks.Hopefully fed UI stipend gets extended after July. Doubt if trump will help there, jmg257 May 2020 #18
Time for demanding Universal Healthcare is now, too!?! Brainfodder May 2020 #20
+1 n/t area51 May 2020 #21

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
1. I think a lot of business owners agree w/ you. Makes sense and is smart.
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:47 PM
May 2020

I assume you mean Seattle? (vs. Settle?

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
3. Sorry Trump?
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:47 PM
May 2020

I can think of seven people you might want to apologize to first. They might have a different concept of what price is "affordable" for testing.





 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
6. It's Not Just Me Every Business Dealing With The Public Would Want To Be Sure No One Is Infected
Tue May 26, 2020, 03:44 PM
May 2020

Working there.

There are not test kits at any price for regular people / business owners from what I understand. I just Googled it.

https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/04/ugandan-scientists-develop-quick-low-cost-covid-19-test-kits/

There is hope though.

Oh, I forgot. Trump and his friends won't make any money off it.

Nevermind.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
8. And yet many of them have been open the whole time
Tue May 26, 2020, 06:19 PM
May 2020

If you're in a badly endangered category (age/condition), then I can understand even extreme caution...

... but that's not "every business".

There are not test kits at any price for regular people / business owners

That article is almost a month and a half old. There are businesses providing tests to their employees now. There are also businesses in areas where good masking/washing practices are sufficient... and even areas where no protection at all is probably acceptable.

Especially in the context of the alternative being people unable to support their families.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
4. K&R, THIS !!! Without frequent "want a test get a test" we're doing same thing we did in 1917. 100
Tue May 26, 2020, 01:52 PM
May 2020

... yrs ago we didn't have ready testing and we still don't have it now.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. If we had President Obama, President Hillary Clinton, or President Joe Biden,
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:27 PM
May 2020

I surely believe that we not only would have done lots of testing by now, but the nation would have a good handle on how to deal with this problem and people would be back working.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
9. We probably have another 2-3 years of this craziness.
Tue May 26, 2020, 06:26 PM
May 2020

The flu pandemic ran from January 1918 to December 1920.

Three large waves .

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. I simply set a policy that wearing a mask properly is an
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:16 PM
May 2020

absolute condition to keeping a job.

Explaining the issue to people from the standpoint that I don't want to get sick is a non-starter, that makes me look weak. The way that I approach the issue of mask wearing is that I feel perfectly fine, but I don't know whether I am a danger to other people who may be vulnerable to SARS-COV-2 infecting them, becoming COVID-19 and killing them. I expect everyone to take the same attitude about why a mask should be worn when around others, or find another job.

gnesta

(2 posts)
13. will you test every hour?
Wed May 27, 2020, 09:06 AM
May 2020

You do realize that testing an employee means they are negative IN THAT MOMENT, don't you? They can be infected one hour later. Or the next day. There is no way you can stay on top of that. You can test them all and in 2 hours any of them, or all of them, can be positive. IT's totally not feasible.

 

killaphill

(212 posts)
17. The point was self evident
Wed May 27, 2020, 12:08 PM
May 2020

A test measures a state at a single point in time. That state could change at any point thereafter. Testing 2 to 3 times a week would help, but certainly doesn't mitigate all risk.

Case in point. Tests are done Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Employee tests negative Monday morning, gets infected Monday evening, and comes to work contagious on Tuesday. This contagion isn't revealed until Wednesday's test.

Also, and someone can correct me if i'm wrong but results aren't instantaneous.

So I test on Wednesday morning, and test results come back Wednesday afternoon. If i wasn't allowed to work between the time of the test and the time of the result, thats fine. But unless the employee is quarantined during the time while waiting for the results, the employee is at risk of contracting the virus during the interim.

Point? Testing isn't a panacea.

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
19. Self-Evident Points Aren't Worth Making, Sir
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:00 PM
May 2020

Of course I appreciate having things explained to me as if I were three years old, but if you thought me unaware of what you have laid out that was foolish.

It is always a mistake to make the perfect the enemy of the good, and what your position amounts to is just that --- that since infection after a test is made can occur, tests are neither advisable nor necessary.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
16. I don't see why we have drunk driving laws...can't catch all of them...
Wed May 27, 2020, 12:02 PM
May 2020

You test and the ones you catch go home...it has worked well in other places.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
18. Man that sucks.Hopefully fed UI stipend gets extended after July. Doubt if trump will help there,
Wed May 27, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

and surely yours won't be the only ex-employees affected without adequate income.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
20. Time for demanding Universal Healthcare is now, too!?!
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:15 PM
May 2020

Otherwise, some (me included) are trapped until a vaccine?

Would be wrecked by C-19 full treatment bills....

With millions of cases, it's the right thing to do, anyway.

I'd go further and cover cremations too, it was $1100ish in total for one a couple year ago, first hand knowledge I didn't want, but it is what it is.









Latest Discussions»General Discussion»I Won't Re-Hire My Laid O...