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edhopper

(33,575 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:41 PM May 2020

Will will probably lose over 200,000 Americans

The NY Times said today (can't find the exact article) that the real number of fatalities is closer to 130,000. (adding deaths not yet counted as COVID) Since it looks like a large chunk of America (not to mention the President) has decided that the virus threat either ended this weekend or will do so on June 1st, I can't see anything but a rise in cases and a growing list of death.

I am sure Trump will still claim that is a victory and GOP know nothings will still say it isn't as bad as people not working.

We are truly fucked.

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RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
2. Well over that. It's only been about 3 months of community circulation AND restrictions are
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:50 PM
May 2020

being lifted all over. Case rates are going to go up, and the next 5-6 months will see a higher death rate than the last 2-3 months. There could be half a million dead by election day. Many of them won't be counted as coronavirus, though.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. In all seriousness, does it even matter any longer?
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:55 PM
May 2020

100,000 dead?
200,000 dead?
2,000,000 dead?

By FAR the most damning thing is the FACT that had our government reacted responsibly to this whole situation, there may have been up to 80% FEWER fatalities at all.

If we had real leadership, examining the problem and pledging to LEAD the world in a collective response to this threat to ALL mankind, then this pandemic, and more importantly the NEXT one to come eventually, may have led to something productive and good in place of chaos and death that we are in the midst of now...

Donald Trump is going down in history as EXACTLY what he is - a fraudulent man. A fraud in his personal life, a fraud in his business life, a fraud in his private life and a fraud in his public life.

He is an utter waste. Morbidly obese, clinically insane and utterly worthless as a human.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
6. . . by the end of June n/t
Tue May 26, 2020, 04:57 PM
May 2020

Probably on our way toward 2M+ total.

350 M x 60% infection for Herd Imm. (lower end estimate) x 1% CFR (lower end estimate) = 2.1 M

drray23

(7,627 posts)
7. to put it in perspective, the united state lost a cumulative 1.3 million soldiers
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:05 PM
May 2020

since the revolution.

So, if we were to reach 1.3 M, we would top the cumulative number of war deads since the founding of this country.

on edit: added the exact number and the reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
8. Reminds me of the Aztec dynasties
Tue May 26, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

But in the Trumpy-boy Era, it's Human Sacrifices to appease the Money God and glorify the Trumpy.

He will turn the dead into loyal Trumpsters who were willing to die FOR HIM. It's just another way to exploit anyone and anything to legitimize every lie he ever told.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
9. 285 airplane crashes
Tue May 26, 2020, 06:57 PM
May 2020

Assuming 747 size plane with 350 passenger capacity.

Everybody would be raising hell about that.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
12. 200,000 by Election Day, easy
Tue May 26, 2020, 07:45 PM
May 2020

300,000+ by this time next year. I'd say 500,000 by the time a vaccine is fully distributed. Assuming the winter wave isn't catastrophic.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
13. When a fourth of the laid off workers return they'll trumpet historic job creation...
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:15 PM
May 2020

The hack economists are already writing glorious hymns in preparation.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. My gut feeling is 500,000 to 1,000,000.
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:18 PM
May 2020

This coming winter’s outbreak will convince most everyone to wear a mask.

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