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DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:30 PM May 2020

Wow. Covid19 is a bacterium, easily treated with aspirin and coagulant.

Last edited Wed May 27, 2020, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

The following was shared on Facebook by old aunt. No source. I see Bill Gates is the boggy man.

Have fun.

I believe this version about COVID19, EVERYONE!

"Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body. They went against the World Health Organization's "law" that no bodies be autopsied. When Italian Ministry of Health ordered many autopsies, they found the blood was clotted in all of the patients veins. They immediately started using aspirin 100mg and a coagulant medication. And have had immense success. 14,000 people were released from the hospital as "healthy" and covid free. Italy is demanding Bill Gates and the World health Organization be held accountable for "crimes against humanity" for misleading, misdirecting, and withholding life saving information from the world, which cost the lives of thousands. Ventilators and ICU units were not necessary. A mandated vaccine is not necessary. Covid19 is a bacterium, easily
treated with aspirin and coagulant. Spread the word! Make this global. Hopefully our president will learn about this and do something about it! Before we lose all of our constitutional freedoms. Hope this is true"

This could be false news, but it does make sense.

Ventilators killed COVID patients. We've been lied to from the start. So many rumors, opinions and wrongful death acts, killing of patients, etc...We do know that it steals oxygen from brains, cells, blood, lungs.

Let someone else who is more capable and get to the bottom of this! Let us not take orders from health organizations who think they know everything! That's impossible!!!

They remove the doctors from social media who speak of the facts and their 40 plus years' of experiences because they want control and the truth not be told. We must explore all avenues.

I pray if this isn't the truth, it'll trigger something in some top medical-care official's noggen. Amen! We can't give up and keep relying on no factual evidence or proofs.




Update: See post #34 below if you are interested in the source of this Facebook silliness.
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Wow. Covid19 is a bacterium, easily treated with aspirin and coagulant. (Original Post) DURHAM D May 2020 OP
This is definitely a brainteaser matt819 May 2020 #1
Classic example of a little learning is a dangerous thing unblock May 2020 #15
I don't even think it qualifies for even a little learning... FarPoint May 2020 #20
Classic example of disinformation, you mean. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #22
Yes, anti-coagulants would help with excessive blood clotting, however you will notice the author of smirkymonkey May 2020 #35
Bullshit meter - amplified! Initech May 2020 #2
Sorry... FarPoint May 2020 #3
I think this is being targeted to Evangelical end timers. nt DURHAM D May 2020 #11
That is most likely.... FarPoint May 2020 #14
I was going to say at the uneducated and stupid. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #43
What did you do? dawg day May 2020 #4
I never respond to her as this is not unusual. nt DURHAM D May 2020 #12
If you have to read these posts she sends I hope you are at least in her will lunasun May 2020 #26
Any bets on how long before Donny Bodybags tweets a version of this story? rurallib May 2020 #5
If one of the idiots on Fox and Friends mentions it in the morning, he'll tweet about it by 9. A HERETIC I AM May 2020 #8
The majority of MAGAts would believe it if Rump said it. I am not having a laugh in the slightest Celerity May 2020 #21
I should think she means anti-coagulant? Frustratedlady May 2020 #6
I think she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about csziggy May 2020 #32
My wife told me that she saw this on FB today too Cirque du So-What May 2020 #7
"Don't let Obama and the shape-shifting body-snatching alien lizard people fool you!" struggle4progress May 2020 #9
I hope you reported it. n/t Ms. Toad May 2020 #10
"We can't...keep relying on no factual evidence or proofs", Mister Ed May 2020 #13
or source nt DURHAM D May 2020 #16
Correct... FarPoint May 2020 #17
I just saw this on Facebook.... FarPoint May 2020 #41
The WHO's "law" that no bodies be autopsied??? I missed that law I guess!!!! winstars May 2020 #18
There has to be a "villain" seeking to suppress the "truth" greenjar_01 May 2020 #23
Crystal meth? stillcool May 2020 #19
I read it as though I had a jug of whisky in one hand and an AR 15 in the other because of lunasun May 2020 #28
I've seen this posted and earnestly discussed on Facebook spinbaby May 2020 #24
Cicadas ??? Wtf? I thought the U.K. 5G Ct was nutty but little bugs coming out to get you with the lunasun May 2020 #31
Ok they lost me @ " coagulant medication" was successful fighting a disease causing blood clots lunasun May 2020 #25
This is an example as to why I closed my Fb account. Ilsa May 2020 #27
Sounds like Russian propaganda. fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #29
It certainly looks aimed at spreading distrust, which is a common Russian tactic muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #42
Wow. That's deep right there. LisaL May 2020 #30
Only Russian brands of aspirin works safeinOhio May 2020 #40
Can you change your headline/title to something that calls it bullshit? LonePirate May 2020 #33
"COVID-19 falsely linked to bacteria" Worried2020 May 2020 #34
Thanks for chasing this down. DURHAM D May 2020 #38
You're Welcome Worried2020 May 2020 #46
I'm convinced that Facebook and Twitter need to be destroyed. Yavin4 May 2020 #36
I disagree - I use FB daily, have for over a decade Worried2020 May 2020 #47
Well that certainly explains why everyone who's been given an antibiotic fully recovers Rstrstx May 2020 #37
I never understand why people post cuckoo Facebook stuff here. cwydro May 2020 #39
DU daily reinforces my decision to never sign up for Facebook. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #44
Lies BGBD May 2020 #45

matt819

(10,749 posts)
1. This is definitely a brainteaser
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:36 PM
May 2020

Should I believe the scientists around the world who have repeatedly described this virus? Oh, sure, they have multi-million dollar machines, some in multi-billion dollar facilities. And I guess they have these degree things that say MD or PhD or some such.

Or do I believe this random person on Facebook who doesn't know shit. Wouldn't know a bacterium (sounds more intelligent that bacteria, btw) from a virus if it bit her in the ass. Who is almost certainly making this shit up for reasons known only to her.

This is a toughie.

Call me a sheeple, but I'm going with the doctors and scientists around the work with their degrees and machines.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
15. Classic example of a little learning is a dangerous thing
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:47 PM
May 2020

Some of this is true. Some of the severe cases and deaths have resulted from clotting, and anti-coagulants can help in those cases. Some of those treated with anti-coagulants may well have made a full recovery, those the anti-coagulants didn't cure them, they merely kept the clotting under control while they fought off the virus.

Of course, the conclusion that this means Covid-19 is a bacterium is patently false, and also this does not mean that anti-coagulants can cure all cases of Covid-19.


FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
20. I don't even think it qualifies for even a little learning...
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:53 PM
May 2020

This is entirely fictions...totally...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,262 posts)
22. Classic example of disinformation, you mean.
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:03 PM
May 2020

Sprinkle some facts and truthy stuff in a pile of bullshit and see how many swallow it.

Divide and conquer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. Yes, anti-coagulants would help with excessive blood clotting, however you will notice the author of
Wed May 27, 2020, 04:52 PM
May 2020

the piece recommends "aspirin and coagulants ", which would do the opposite. "Coagulents" was used twice, so it probably wasn't just a typo.

You're right though. Sounds like this person just found out one little snippet of information about the disease and decided to run like a deranged Trumpster with it, making up their own truth as they go along.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
3. Sorry...
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:38 PM
May 2020

It is not a bacterium....This entire article...no link...is totally meant to cause confusion and non compliance with our COVID 19 Protective Protocols.

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
14. That is most likely....
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

Plus, any non clinical person searching for a reason to validate their non compliance with COVID 19 Protective Protocols....

I can dispute it but I have such a clinical background. .

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
4. What did you do?
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:39 PM
May 2020

i don't know how to respond to people like this.

"Why do you believe this? Do you really think healthcare workers are trying to kill people? Really?"

And what is so very hard is that the people who come up with these lies are doing so to support Trump's nasty little ego.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
5. Any bets on how long before Donny Bodybags tweets a version of this story?
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:40 PM
May 2020

I'll say within two weeks.

Celerity

(43,138 posts)
21. The majority of MAGAts would believe it if Rump said it. I am not having a laugh in the slightest
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

when I posit that tomorrow, Rump could hold a presser, say that he has given it much thought and reflection, and he is convinced once and for all, despite what the 'crooked doctors' and 'lying media' says, that if you inject Lysol, plus (or) drink a pint or two of bleach it will cure you or keep you from getting COVID-19, and within days over 100,000 people would die from just that.

They are THAT programmed, and that stupid.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. I should think she means anti-coagulant?
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:41 PM
May 2020

I would imagine some patients are receiving blood thinners, since the blood clots are a problem, but this writing is certainly messed up. She wants you to take aspirin (to thin the blood) and coagulant?

Makes doctors Fauci and Birx that much more important.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
32. I think she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:29 PM
May 2020

You're right - there have been some indications that some anti-coagulants may help, but given the rest of the bullshit in the part quoted in the OP, the aunt doesn't have a hint of a clue.

I'd be inclined to believe what Dr. Fauci has to say. Dr. Birx, on the other hand, has no credibility left after letting Dolt45 make so many unfounded claims in front of her without calling him on the lies.

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
7. My wife told me that she saw this on FB today too
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:43 PM
May 2020

Still not enough to entice me onto that wretched site to fight codswollop like that. Life is too short for futile, quixotic battles.

Mister Ed

(5,924 posts)
13. "We can't...keep relying on no factual evidence or proofs",
Wed May 27, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

she said, as she urged everyone to rely on a story with no factual evidence or "proofs".

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
41. I just saw this on Facebook....
Wed May 27, 2020, 06:38 PM
May 2020

I thought of this Post....Apparently the memo made some rounds...Fact Check addressed the issue...

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/covid-19-isnt-caused-by-bacteria/?fbclid=IwAR0269MowW388b9H-ZoksM0NXBuoESW5zJs74um9137EbykRuRinmIl31ao

False information that claims COVID-19 is caused by a bacteria and can be easily treated started spreading by text message, and is now viral on social media. Actually, COVID-19 is caused by a virus and there is no treatment for it.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
23. There has to be a "villain" seeking to suppress the "truth"
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:03 PM
May 2020

Nobody should make fun of medieval plague superstitions ever again. We're the same. We're exactly the same.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. I read it as though I had a jug of whisky in one hand and an AR 15 in the other because of
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020

those constitutional freedoms mentioned and not taking orders from those health official know it alls
but could be meth crazy too

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
24. I've seen this posted and earnestly discussed on Facebook
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

What’s behind it, besides a great deal of ignorance, is a desire for a silver bullet, a magical cure that will make it all right.

As an aside, one of the people posting this was also sure cicadas were responsible for Covid-19 somehow.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. Cicadas ??? Wtf? I thought the U.K. 5G Ct was nutty but little bugs coming out to get you with the
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:28 PM
May 2020

virus ? They don’t bite or sting what is it then ?
don’t look into the little round eyes or you’ll get it or is it the buzzing noise that attacks and brings it into your body ?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
25. Ok they lost me @ " coagulant medication" was successful fighting a disease causing blood clots
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

MAGAt mush too
“Hopefully our president will learn about this and do something about it! Before we lose all of our constitutional freedoms. Hope this is true"


“Let someone else who is more capable and get to the bottom of this! Let us not take orders from health organizations who think they know everything! “

YES! Like random posters on FB

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
29. Sounds like Russian propaganda.
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:17 PM
May 2020

Putin doesn't really need to cheat during the 2020 election to help Dumpus. His trolls just needs to keep pumping out dangerous disinformation and the dumber people will happily poison themselves or refuse appropriate medical care.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
42. It certainly looks aimed at spreading distrust, which is a common Russian tactic
Wed May 27, 2020, 07:37 PM
May 2020

Given that it also blames 5G in the versions that factraker.org tracked down (see below), it's unlikely to be Chinese - they want to sell 5G technology to countries.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
30. Wow. That's deep right there.
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
May 2020

Aspirin has anti-coagulation properties. And then you add a "coagulant" on to of it. Of course you get a cure.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
33. Can you change your headline/title to something that calls it bullshit?
Wed May 27, 2020, 03:49 PM
May 2020

Right now, there is nothing in the headline or the body of the post that tells the reader that the post is 100% bullshit. We should not allow bogus info to resemble legitimate info on this subject.

Worried2020

(444 posts)
34. "COVID-19 falsely linked to bacteria"
Wed May 27, 2020, 04:18 PM
May 2020

.
.

COVID-19 falsely linked to bacteria
https://www.factrakers.org/post/covid-19-falsely-linked-to-bacteria

A tabloid and Facebook groups in the Philippines have been sharing a false claim that Italy’s health ministry has discovered that COVID-19 is caused by bacteria—not a virus—supposedly amplified by 5G radiation.


The erroneous claim, which began circulating in the Philippines on May 24, also says medicines for pain, inflammation and blood clots, including aspirin and paracetamol, are enough to cure patients who purportedly die mainly of thrombosis or blood clotting.

/snip/
__________________________________________________________________________

It's a long article, as well as having over a dozen external links related not to just this article/topic, but one of the best coverage of this whole virus thing since January.

Definitely worth a click, and if nothing else - just check the subject matter and sources at the end of the article.

BTW - I didn't believe the OP's article was accurate by the second sentence . . .

W

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
38. Thanks for chasing this down.
Wed May 27, 2020, 05:04 PM
May 2020

The reason I posted it on DU was that I knew someone here would find the source of the bullshit.

Thanks again.

Worried2020

(444 posts)
46. You're Welcome
Wed May 27, 2020, 08:11 PM
May 2020

.
.

But I gotta admit - that one was just too easy . . . 30 seconds of Googling

No biggie



W

Worried2020

(444 posts)
47. I disagree - I use FB daily, have for over a decade
Wed May 27, 2020, 08:28 PM
May 2020

.
.
The danger lies in gullible participants who believe almost everything in print/online is true.

I've deleted a few friends on FB because they post nonsense and/or nothing I'm interested in.

Others, because they are friends in real life, not people met on line get "snoozed" for 30 days - or "unfollowed" (like a permanent snooze, but reversible) if I don't like, or am not interested in most of their posts. Keeps my Page fairly enjoyable/useful . . . .

Think of FB like an axe. It's damn useful and productive if you know how to use it, but you can hurt yourself and/or others if you are careless with it



W

ps: - no comment on Twitter as I never used it, have no intention or need to . . .

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
39. I never understand why people post cuckoo Facebook stuff here.
Wed May 27, 2020, 05:08 PM
May 2020

I could go onto Facebook and find 20 such theories, I'm sure.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
45. Lies
Wed May 27, 2020, 08:01 PM
May 2020

It's just more disinformation to try to make the lowest information folks among us (read as Trumps base) a reason to distrust information about the virus.

Have no doubt, as much as Russia loves having Trump they would happily let him lose the next election if it means that a million Americans died.

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