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RandySF

(62,738 posts)
Thu May 28, 2020, 02:44 PM May 2020

Klobuchar Declined to Prosecute Cop Who Killed Floyd

While serving as Minnesota’s chief prosecutor between 1999 and 2007, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) declined to bring charges against more than two dozen police officers who had killed citizens while on duty – including against the officer that killed George Floyd in Minneapolis this week, MintPress News reports.



https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/28/klobuchar-declined-to-prosecute-cop-who-killed-floyd/

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Klobuchar Declined to Prosecute Cop Who Killed Floyd (Original Post) RandySF May 2020 OP
Well, there's that uponit7771 May 2020 #1
Or, rather: That's that. UTUSN May 2020 #25
Good bye VP! rkleinberger May 2020 #50
I smell the toast burning. This is why I want Joe to wait until he is nominated NCjack May 2020 #52
Even if he names his choice at the start of August... Salviati May 2020 #55
Except for this severe broken jaw in her record, she is tenacious, steady, and otherwise Democratic. UTUSN May 2020 #53
It is a broken jaw. And yes, she is awesome in so many ways. BComplex May 2020 #60
Thank you. UTUSN May 2020 #64
K&R friendly_iconoclast May 2020 #2
Yikes... hlthe2b May 2020 #3
"Bye Felicia" AllTooEasy May 2020 #59
As a prosecutor she was severely constrained -- Hortensis May 2020 #61
Takes her off the short list randr May 2020 #4
Pretty sure she's taken herself off that list. rogue emissary May 2020 #7
Her prospects of eventually becoming the first female President Dawson Leery May 2020 #5
Yep Rebl2 May 2020 #51
He wasn't going to pick her for VP anyway, but this pretty much ensures he won't. nt tblue37 May 2020 #6
Whenever she runs for reelection she will lose. I hope Franken runs against her, Stuart G May 2020 #8
She stuck by him and did not join in the attack on him. I don't think he will oppose her. Nt lostnfound May 2020 #15
'The right decision,' Amy Klobuchar, others say of Franken's resignation Celerity May 2020 #69
It will be in 2024. Franken will then be 74 question everything May 2020 #66
This is a case for holding off on announcing a pick until August. OrlandoDem2 May 2020 #9
EXCELLENT point, Orlando! MyOwnPeace May 2020 #10
Yes, excellent point.. TY, OrlandoDem. Cha May 2020 #20
Very good point. Caution, thoroughness, justice. nolabear May 2020 #42
Good point. It sure is ... makes that case perfectly. KPN May 2020 #63
welp qazplm135 May 2020 #11
I hope the Biden camp is aware of this still_one May 2020 #12
If they weren't already (I'm sure they were, things like this were discussed when she was... George II May 2020 #32
add the current officer involved in the Floyd killing, if she wasn't before, she is a liability now still_one May 2020 #34
Susan Rice would be a powerful choice. Mme. Defarge May 2020 #47
I concur! She has the gravitas, experience and no-nonsense vibe. Also she's simpatico with Joe. Skya Rhen May 2020 #71
Sad knowing Wellstone ruled May 2020 #13
Ooohh, dear. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #14
Well said! Metatron May 2020 #17
Or, you end up with a fence post up your ass. rufus dog May 2020 #31
Not that it amounts to anything Mr. Ected May 2020 #16
Yes. elleng May 2020 #18
Sure. It may well not be fair to rip her to pieces... Tom Rinaldo May 2020 #21
I completely concur, Tom Mr. Ected May 2020 #24
Didn't the police brutality issue come up during a debate? RandySF May 2020 #23
Indeed it did Mr. Ected May 2020 #27
What do you mean in Minneapolis of all places? geardaddy May 2020 #54
Actions speak louder than words quakerboy May 2020 #38
I don't believe that Amy Klobuchar is a bad person. madaboutharry May 2020 #19
Agree not fooled May 2020 #43
You can say the exact same thing about Harris and her time as a county atty. Mosby May 2020 #49
Biden needs to cross her off his list immediately ! kimbutgar May 2020 #22
If Biden or his staff isn't aware of this, we have a problem. Hopefully that isn't the case. In still_one May 2020 #28
If his staff wasn't aware of this before now The Mouth May 2020 #37
She gone! B Stieg May 2020 #26
More importantly, that cop has killed before???? ... marble falls May 2020 #29
Apparently we don't need such information sarisataka May 2020 #33
If we're not careful, we'll be like them: voting against our own interests for an ... marble falls May 2020 #36
She'll be condemned anyways by GOP/Russian attacks from the left. tinrobot May 2020 #41
I agree, but politics isn't fair RandySF May 2020 #56
I guess she won't be VP then IronLionZion May 2020 #30
She has a crap record on prosecuting police geardaddy May 2020 #35
Check the source - Mintpress News LovingLife May 2020 #39
This is being widely reported in other news outlets, like Yahoo News, intheflow May 2020 #45
they removed it and put in WaPo, The Week, and The Guardian Celerity May 2020 #70
That's a shame. Hulk May 2020 #40
Bye grinning Amy! Dream Girl May 2020 #44
always saw her as R-lite, no surprises here bringthePaine May 2020 #46
In the long run, this is a good thing. Yavin4 May 2020 #48
Klobuchar was the Hennepin County attorney dflprincess May 2020 #57
What of Kamala Harris? SleeplessinSoCal May 2020 #58
She won't be the VP pick either Trumpocalypse May 2020 #67
This is a Breitbart-level attack Azathoth May 2020 #62
Not Breitbart. That isn't the incident in question. SleeplessinSoCal May 2020 #72
Klobuchar became a Senator on January 2007 Azathoth May 2020 #73
Got it. Still no Breitbart. SleeplessinSoCal May 2020 #74
I think we can safely assume that AK is now crossed off of Biden's list. ecstatic May 2020 #65
tell me. BGBD May 2020 #68

NCjack

(10,280 posts)
52. I smell the toast burning. This is why I want Joe to wait until he is nominated
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:36 PM
May 2020

at the convention before naming his V.P. selection.

Salviati

(6,017 posts)
55. Even if he names his choice at the start of August...
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:54 PM
May 2020

... it's still longer before the convention than most other nominees in the past 40 years. He does need us to push back against the people who are saying he should rush into a decision.

UTUSN

(71,334 posts)
53. Except for this severe broken jaw in her record, she is tenacious, steady, and otherwise Democratic.
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:39 PM
May 2020

BComplex

(8,578 posts)
60. It is a broken jaw. And yes, she is awesome in so many ways.
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:34 PM
May 2020

Hurts, how unforgiving folks can be.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. As a prosecutor she was severely constrained --
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
May 2020

and had to function within -- the laws and practices in place, as well as the practical realities of power distribution. Everything needs to be examined in context, because everything occurs in real-world context. Without fail.

The one most important thing we can do in evaluating candidates is to find out WHO THEY ARE. But I do agree that, given the failure of most to do that, her chances of becoming Biden's VP probably didn't just decline but plummeted.

(Evil woman! Your decades of support of civil rights mean nothing.)

rogue emissary

(3,170 posts)
7. Pretty sure she's taken herself off that list.
Thu May 28, 2020, 02:50 PM
May 2020

I may not be a fan of hers because of this record. I do think she is smart enough to realize the political tides are now against her.

Stuart G

(38,672 posts)
8. Whenever she runs for reelection she will lose. I hope Franken runs against her,
Thu May 28, 2020, 02:52 PM
May 2020

and destroys her political future forever.

Celerity

(45,201 posts)
69. 'The right decision,' Amy Klobuchar, others say of Franken's resignation
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:14 PM
May 2020
https://www.twincities.com/2017/12/07/amy-klobuchar-mark-dayton-others-react-to-al-franken-resignation-announcement/

U.S. SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR

“Today Senator Franken acknowledged that he could no longer serve in the Senate and resigned. As he and I discussed yesterday, this is the right decision. Senator Franken has worked for years on behalf of the people of Minnesota and he has been a leader on issues that are fundamental to Americans’ lives, including education, privacy, healthcare and mental health. He has been a friend to me and to many in our state.

“As the women who have come forward to tell their stories across America have made clear, sexual harassment is never acceptable. In every workplace in America, including the U.S. Senate, we must confront the challenges of harassment and misconduct. Nothing is easy or pleasant about this, but we all must recognize that our workplace cultures — and the way we treat each other as human beings — must change.


“For Franni, the Franken family, Senator Franken’s friends and supporters in our state, it’s a very tough day. I want you to know I remain as committed as ever to working together and standing up for people, for common decency, and for our democracy during an incredibly difficult and divisive time in our country. And as we go forward together, we must never forget the words of Senator Paul Wellstone, whom Senator Franken quoted in part today, ‘Politics is not about power. Politics is not about money. Politics is not about winning for the sake of winning. Politics is about the improvement of people’s lives.”

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https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/amy-klobuchar-senate-al-franken-minnesota/index.html

"I had condemned his conduct early on when the first allegation was made," she told CNN's Dana Bash on "Inside Politics." "I felt I was in a different role as his colleague, that I'm someone that has worked with him for a long time, there's a lot of trust there, and I felt it was best to handle it in that way."

In a coordinated effort, female Democratic senators called for Franken's resignation in rapid fire Wednesday. Klobuchar did not join in that effort and said in a statement at the time that she spoke with him privately. By Wednesday evening, more than two dozen senators -- including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer -- had called for Franken's resignation.

"I talked to him about the fact that you had reached the situation with the mounting allegations and the fact that there was an ethics investigation going on," Klobuchar told CNN Friday.

snip


When asked about the ramifications of Franken's decision to resign, which Bash said was "under duress" -- and Klobuchar agreed -- the senator said it's "not about just toppling men." "This is about guaranteeing we will have better workplaces where people treat each other fairly," she responded. "And there is a lot of good men in the workplace. You know some of them. I think the key here will be due process."

snip


https://www.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2017/12/why-democrats-pushed-franken-out.html?page=all

snip

A contrast is just what Democrats likely want to focus on, according to The Washington Post. Forcing out Franken, along with Rep. John Conyers, shows the party is “willing to sacrifice their own in the interest of staking out the higher ground,” per The Post.

Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar called Franken Wednesday and privately urged him to step down, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. While she plans to uphold Franken’s legacy and the work he’s done for the state, she thought his speech was “short.”

“I know that he didn’t really apologize to the people and that would have been nice,” Klobuchar said, per the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

snip


http://www.startribune.com/sen-amy-klobuchar-says-franken-s-legacy-will-last-but-adds-he-should-have-apologized/462628583/

snip

As for the farewell speech itself, Klobuchar said: “I thought the speech was short. ... I know that he didn’t really apologize to the people and that would have been nice.

“I think the bigger deal for me was that he was able to talk ... with a lot of love for our state, what he liked about his job and what he wanted to be his legacy.”

That legacy, she said, would include Franken’s work on issues like health care and privacy.

But the legacy will also be shadowed by more than half a dozen sexual harassment allegations against Franken. On Wednesday, Klobuchar said, as a seventh accuser came forward and other Senate Democrats began calling for his resignation, she called Franken to privately urge him to do the “right thing” and step down.

snip

question everything

(48,036 posts)
66. It will be in 2024. Franken will then be 74
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:56 PM
May 2020

She is still very popular in the state. Thankfully MN is not as leftist as DU.

OrlandoDem2

(2,117 posts)
9. This is a case for holding off on announcing a pick until August.
Thu May 28, 2020, 02:52 PM
May 2020

Just keep vetting and keep the suspense. It’s free media.

We can’t afford a misstep in June or July when he could make a pick in August.

MyOwnPeace

(17,030 posts)
10. EXCELLENT point, Orlando!
Thu May 28, 2020, 02:56 PM
May 2020

Like the "free media" idea - always gives some "fresh meat" to throw to the hounds!

KPN

(15,810 posts)
63. Good point. It sure is ... makes that case perfectly.
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:39 PM
May 2020

It also makes the case for floating names of people being vetted for VP.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. If they weren't already (I'm sure they were, things like this were discussed when she was...
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:40 PM
May 2020

...an active candidate), they are now.

A prosecutor has a tough job, there will always be controversial cases, but refusing to proceed on as many as this is not a good trend.

still_one

(93,627 posts)
34. add the current officer involved in the Floyd killing, if she wasn't before, she is a liability now
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:47 PM
May 2020

I really like Susan Rice, especially based on her international experience which has been so badly eroded under trump


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Sad knowing
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:10 PM
May 2020

Amy from my days as a sales and service Rep and having her Office as a Client.

Her track record on protecting Cops is now front page. Another is Mike Freeman.

Baitball Blogger

(47,223 posts)
14. Ooohh, dear.
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:10 PM
May 2020

This is what happens when you try to straddle the middle, and find your dominant foot leans more to one side than the other.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
31. Or, you end up with a fence post up your ass.
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:39 PM
May 2020

She is the LAST thing we need as a VP, would always be saying we need to reach out to work with Repukes.

We need to do no such thing.

Mr. Ected

(9,680 posts)
16. Not that it amounts to anything
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:13 PM
May 2020

But I would appreciate hearing Klobuchar's response before ripping her to pieces.

In so many other ways, she was an appealing candidate and a capable Senator. I won't forgive her this trespass, of course, but with Trump in the White House and Republicans acting like Mussolini wannabes, I don't want my anger focused on a Democrat.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,950 posts)
21. Sure. It may well not be fair to rip her to pieces...
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:25 PM
May 2020

...but it is very much politically fair, and virtually required, to rule her out for Biden's VP in light of this. Fair or not, she would hurt the ticket for this November's election. May she continue to have an honorable career in politics, and like each and every one of us, may her future judgements be better informed by what we come to understand today. But there are better political choices for VP now than Amy Klobuchar.

geardaddy

(25,071 posts)
54. What do you mean in Minneapolis of all places?
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:53 PM
May 2020

MPD has been running roughshod over people of color for decades.

madaboutharry

(40,495 posts)
19. I don't believe that Amy Klobuchar is a bad person.
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:23 PM
May 2020

I think that she is a highly ambitious, intelligent, and competent person who failed to adequately serve all the members of her community. I think her record during her tenure as County Attorney of Hennepin County disqualifies her as a VP choice in the upcoming election. I don't think she will ever be president.

I also think her election to the U.S. Senate may now be more difficult due to this deserved scrutiny.

still_one

(93,627 posts)
28. If Biden or his staff isn't aware of this, we have a problem. Hopefully that isn't the case. In
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:32 PM
May 2020

addition, Amy Klobuchar should remove herself from the list if she is on it


marble falls

(59,568 posts)
29. More importantly, that cop has killed before???? ...
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:34 PM
May 2020

We don't know what evidence she had to look at before making her decision. We don't know what circumstances led to that last killing. Let's hold off before judging her.

But he needs a serious looking at.

sarisataka

(19,626 posts)
33. Apparently we don't need such information
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020

We can condemn her without any knowledge of the previous case because of something that has happened years later.

I expect there will soon be calls for her to resign from the Senate.


And yes his history of use of force should be examined at his trial

marble falls

(59,568 posts)
36. If we're not careful, we'll be like them: voting against our own interests for an ...
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:51 PM
May 2020

under defined knee-jerk issue.

tinrobot

(11,073 posts)
41. She'll be condemned anyways by GOP/Russian attacks from the left.
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:02 PM
May 2020

This is a perfect line of attack for them to peel off some voters, cause controversy, etc...

Besides, we have plenty of other good candidates.

RandySF

(62,738 posts)
56. I agree, but politics isn't fair
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:04 PM
May 2020

and Klobacher already had a not so great reputation in rhw African American community. Given this, and Biden's gaffe last week, it's probably the end of any VP aspirations.

LovingLife

(46 posts)
39. Check the source - Mintpress News
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

Aside from supporting Syria's Assad, Mintpress News,

"By 2016, MintPress News had begun reprinting copy from RT (formerly Russia Today) and Sputnik.[7]"

The story may or may not be true, but the source is questionable. And Kamala Harris did the exact same as prosecutor in California - refused to prosecute cops.

Here's the wikipedia link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

intheflow

(28,653 posts)
45. This is being widely reported in other news outlets, like Yahoo News,
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:13 PM
May 2020

which cited (and linked to) a database of police complaints.

Here's that article: https://news.yahoo.com/amy-klobuchar-declined-prosecute-officer-183728902.html

Celerity

(45,201 posts)
70. they removed it and put in WaPo, The Week, and The Guardian
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:27 PM
May 2020
https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/28/klobuchar-declined-to-prosecute-cop-who-killed-floyd/

Note to readers: An earlier version of this post linked to a source that may not be credible, although the reporting is similar.
 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
40. That's a shame.
Thu May 28, 2020, 03:59 PM
May 2020

In many other ways, she was my first choice. I'd love to hear HER address these charges. There is so much bull shit in the air. Might be the accusations are justified...might be they are not.

Yavin4

(35,570 posts)
48. In the long run, this is a good thing.
Thu May 28, 2020, 04:17 PM
May 2020

The reason why some bad cops feel like they can do whatever they want is because it's unlikely that they will be prosecuted.

When the careers of ambitious DAs are threatened for lack of prosecution, then they will start thinking twice about giving out "get out of jail free" cards.

Bad cops survive because they work in a system that favors them, but the tide is finally turning.

dflprincess

(28,207 posts)
57. Klobuchar was the Hennepin County attorney
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:07 PM
May 2020

Not "Minnesota's chief prosecutor" (which, I assume would be the state AG). However, a shooting in Minneapolis would have fallen under her jurisdiction.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,374 posts)
58. What of Kamala Harris?
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:19 PM
May 2020

Though she got billions for CA's housing crisis, her office should have prosecuted Steve Mnuchin when they had the chance.

"... a new book by Pulitzer Prize-nominated reporter Aaron Glantz challenges that storyline, arguing that Harris not only allowed Steve Mnuchin’s OneWest bank to get away with foreclosing on tens of thousands of state homeowners, but then tried to bury the evidence."

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/kamala-harris-attorney-general-california-housing-053716

Azathoth

(4,661 posts)
62. This is a Breitbart-level attack
Thu May 28, 2020, 05:58 PM
May 2020
In 2006, Chauvin was one of six officers from the Third Precinct who responded to a stabbing at a Minneapolis home. Police said Wayne Reyes stabbed his friend and his girlfriend and then threatened to kill all of them with a shotgun.

Police pursued Reyes, who fled in his truck. He got out of the vehicle with a shotgun, and "several officers fired multiple shots," killing Reyes, police said in a report.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-officer-center-george-floyd-s-death-had-history-n1215691

Of all this guy Chauvin's long history of complaints, this sounds like the only legitimate thing he did. But of course that context is completely omitted because "Death to Klobouchar!"

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,374 posts)
72. Not Breitbart. That isn't the incident in question.
Thu May 28, 2020, 10:06 PM
May 2020

Do you think Toles actually "grabbed for Chauvin's gun? That is the dog whistle of the 21st century

"In 2008, Chauvin and a second officer were called to a residence for a domestic disturbance. According to police, Ira Latrell Toles, 21, was holed up in a bathroom and tried to escape when Chauvin got inside. When Toles refused to obey Chauvin's order to get down, police said, a struggle began and Toles grabbed for Chauvin's weapon.

Chauvin fired twice, hitting Toles in the abdomen, the Pioneer Press newspaper of St. Paul reported. Toles was taken to the hospital and survived."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-officer-center-george-floyd-s-death-had-history-n1215691

Azathoth

(4,661 posts)
73. Klobuchar became a Senator on January 2007
Thu May 28, 2020, 10:17 PM
May 2020

She had been out office for over a year when the Toles shooting took place.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,374 posts)
74. Got it. Still no Breitbart.
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:08 AM
May 2020

I am very curious to know why a cop repeatedly violates the civil rights of others got a pass. Recidivism apparently isn't confined the the criminals.

ecstatic

(33,214 posts)
65. I think we can safely assume that AK is now crossed off of Biden's list.
Thu May 28, 2020, 07:48 PM
May 2020

My assumption is based on the fact that Biden has some really smart women on his team who are already on top of the situation.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
68. tell me.
Thu May 28, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

which case specifically she should have prosecuted?

I watched cops kill a guy once. He had just robbed a bank and was running down the street just after spraying rounds from his AK 47 all over the block.

Should they have been charged? Sometimes it is pretty cut and dry.

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