Suspicious white man breaking windows at Auto Zone -

[DURHAM D]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. There are probably some agents provocateurs.

[DURHAM D]

5. Seems the locals think the six white men destroying property

were off-duty police.

[Blue_true]

38. Hopefully people took pictures of them. nt

[DURHAM D]

39. They were very very carefully covered from head to toe. nt

[octoberlib]

62. They could very well be. I'm also seeing a lot of anarchist

graffiti sprayed on looted stores. Black Bloc shows up everywhere and incites mayhem, Ferguson, the G-20. I was at a protest and saw them walk up to a group of young kids and heard them trying to incite them to smash windows.

[TheBlackAdder]

28. My daughter said one of the guys was confirmed to be a police officer.

[HipChick]

41. Yes, apparently he was a cop...

Link to tweet

[BigmanPigman]

45. That sure looks like the same guy to me.

When will he be getting arrested now that he has been identified? A cop? Never.

[Hav]

65. His department already came out to say it's not him

which made people even more suspicious as they investigated it that quickly.
I'm no expert for facial recognition from such a small part of the face, so I don't know whether someone could make a clear case to prove it either way.
When I first saw that comparison, I thought no way, then I thought ok, there are similarities, for examples the cheekbones seem to fit and apparently his ex thinks it's him but that is all Twitter and not reliable. Now, I think the eye color for those two might not be the same.

In the end, we also have to be careful when we send a virtual lynch mob after someone who might be innocent.

[Squinch]

2. That guy in the pink shirt should get a medal.

[Blue Owl]

22. You are correct

I hope that guy got some valuable info that could lead to an ID on this person of interest...

[BigmanPigman]

47. Not just for not letting up on the incognito cop

but also for not dropping that pizza at the same time.

[msongs]

3. for some ppl any protests are an excuse for a party...a vandalism party nt

[dalton99a]

4. Kick

[Maraya1969]

10. Oh excellent! I hope he can be identified.

[Blue Owl]

21. For now, let's just call him MC Hammer (Mpls Cop Hammer)

Oh how convenient -- the protests get blamed on someone else while these tools are doing the dirty work...

[FreeState]

53. He has been

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Strelnikov_]

56. Yep. A cop. Ain't that grand. n/t

[Cha]

6. Fucking POSHITS

[Celerity]

7. probably a cop dressed as black bloc, or a real black bloc on the payroll to kick it off

Black blocs in the EU and the US are so often full of agents provocateurs

they are many times just goons for hire under a plazzy 'we are anarchists' bullshit cover

[BamaRefugee]

8. Video of guy breaking windows removed from YouTube, link says TOS violation?

[DURHAM D]

9. Hmmmh?

Did it not just open for you? Should be no need to click link.

[Maraya1969]

11. The problem is not the Twitter link it is the Youtube link. That video has been removed

[Celerity]

13. it is still up on twitter but the YT vid has been pulled, the more I see, the dodgier this

entire thing is getting. I think undercover cops and paid goons are setting people up in many circumstances.

[cayugafalls]

12. YouTube removes that video every time it is posted.

I downloaded it earlier to make sure I could view it whenever I wanted as I knew it would not last long.

[Celerity]

14. that fucker sure looked and acted like a cop RPing a black bloc (or a real bb on the payroll)

[cayugafalls]

17. Either way...I will place money that this could be traced back to Kroll and the Union.

They want to distract the public and make BLM look bad, this is nothing more than a way to destroy the integrity of the movement.

There are witnesses to the 6 white dudes starting the riot.

[Celerity]

18. +100000

[mia]

31. Here it is.

[msongs]

15. this vid getting any play on msnbc/other media? have not seen it yet nt

[4139]

16. My guess would be antifa because of gas mask, backpack combined with seriously heavy gloves

[Catherine Vincent]

19. Why would antifa do this?

Aren't they anti Trump?

[marmar]

24. Doubt it. I suspect the provocateurs are on the other side of the political fence.

[canuckledragger]

32. My guess is that...

someone is talking out of their ass trying to smear a group they don't like.

[yardwork]

34. Um, no.

[GemDigger]

20. Someone should send this to Rachel.

That was a white man on a mission and the mission wasn't supposed to have some small black guy calling him on it and HIS FACE IS IN THE SHOT.

[wnylib]

61. I sure hope she gets it

as well as CNN, MSNBC, and the 3 networks. Amy Goodman is another journalist who should receive it.

[ecstatic]

23. Of course. What better way to undermine and distract

from what the police are doing? And it also gives trump, Fox news, and other kkk types fresh fodder.

[jimlup]

25. Make no mistake - there are aggregators who's sole objective is

to destroy and cause chaos.

My daughter, son in law and grandson live only blocks from this scene. They are terrified.

[relayerbob]

26. I believe I just saw someone flash a white power hand signal to the cameras

live on Rachel. It was a white male.

[DURHAM D]

29. Yep. I saw that. nt

[relayerbob]

33. Thank you, I guess

Nice to know I wasn't imagining it, but I wish I was

[oasis]

42. Flashing white power while walking w/2 other masked white guys.

Gleeful trouble makers.

[relayerbob]

43. Yep, and a few more screaming white yahoos

Call it profiling, but the guy telling "You're part of the problem" screamed white supremacist, from skin color, hair cut, body size, prepped with a fume mask (when no one else nearby was wearing them)

[oasis]

46. Trump's mischief pixies stirring up civil unrest. nt

[rgbecker]

27. What's with the umbrella?

[DURHAM D]

30. So cameras can't get a good shot of him.

He is a well trained outside actor.

[relayerbob]

44. Yep

[FailureToCommunicate]

50. He knew injustice would rain down upon his misdeeds. (He also used it to shield from the

breaking glass as he smashed the windows.)

[justgamma]

35. Sop For the GOP

Remember this from the Wisc governor? "Madison, WI police chief Noble Wray has asked Governor Scott Walker to explain his statement to a phone prankster impersonating billionaire arch-conservative David Koch, in which Walker stated that he'd considered using provocateurs to create problems amongst the demonstrators in order to discredit the public service unions and their supporters. The chief wants to know why Walker would consider sowing public disorder for political gain:

I believe they do it to Antifa all the time. They do it to a lot of these protests.

[ElementaryPenguin]

36. Oh what a fucking scam!!!!

Either a white cop, or a paid white agitator!!

What despicable motherfuckers!!

[IronLionZion]

37. Umbrella, serious looking respirator, all covered up on a warm summer day

yup someone is making this out to be something it's not. Minneapolis does have a problem of white supremacists committing violent crimes. In 2015 they shot a bunch of people at a BLM protest. And white supremacists have long infiltrated police departments going way back decades.

Having a black police chief with a Hispanic name now doesn't change their history of having actual Nazis in power passing anti-Semitic policies while America was fighting WW2.

[Blue Owl]

48. Fucker was probably whistling while smashing the windows

[OAITW r.2.0]

40. Rat-fucking...this is what Republicans do. nt

[LiberalFighter]

49. That would be the time to spray paint his umbrella and suit.

I imagine that someone was able to track him and id him.

[Karadeniz]

51. AlterNet has an article on boogaloo people joining the protesters. They want a civil war and

They're anti police.

[Ferrets are Cool]

52. This shit disgusts me so fucking much.

[Mariana]

55. Please update your OP title - he's a fucking cop!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213498700#post41

[DURHAM D]

57. I saw that in the Boykin thread before I started the OP.

I need a little more proof/info before I buy into it. If it is true I hope he is already under arrest.

[Hekate]

58. KnR

[BrightKnight]

59. Someone wants to change the subject but

it is not just local cops. A lot of people have sympathy and this is not convenient in an election year. They need to remind everyone that black people should be feared. Also, a little mayhem can give cover for an not charging him.


I really don’t rioting is helping anything.

[Alex4Martinez]

60. Jacob Pederson, St. Paul Police Department.

https://prosportsextra.com/breaking-white-man-who-started-breaking-windows-at-first-minneapolis-building-fire-identified-as-st-paul-cop-jacob-pederson/

[Hermit-The-Prog]

63. Hope all these nazis are identified and arrested. (Surely not all cops are Nazis).

[wnylib]

64. Some of us here at DU are old enough

to remember COINTELPRO in the 1960's.

They were government agents trained to infiltrate civil rights and anti war groups. They provoked violence at peaceful demonstrations. They went to local organizing and awareness meetings to push ideas that would allow them to act like the guy in the Minneapolis video.

A friend of mine was a Kent State student in 1970. The shootings there occurred on a Monday. On Friday night and during the day on Saturday, she saw thes escalation of anti war protests to violence and went home that Saturday. Her parents kept her home on Monday.

She said that several Kent students, including herself, were suspicious of people on campus pushing an escalation of the protests. That's why she went home.

Trump is now using the Minneapolis riots as an excuse to start shooting protesters, according to NPR this morning. Trump has tweeted that the military should be called in to shoot at looters. Twitter hid the tweet as "glorifying violence" but says it is accessible by clicking on it.

Trump knows he is losing the vote. He wants escalation in order to claim emergency powers that he will use against non-white America.

[demmiblue]

66. Black Bloc/anarchists

I was also listening to an expert on MSNBC who said that some of the fires were likely started by professional arsonists.