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madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
Fri May 29, 2020, 12:56 PM May 2020

Amy Klobuchar was just on MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell.

They were discussing the events in Minneapolis.

Andrea asked her about her tenure as Hennepin County Prosecutor. Amy K vehemently denied that she passed on prosecuting the officer involved. She called reports circulating on the internet accusing her of letting him off as a lie. She called it a lie. She said that that decision was made after she had already moved on to serving in the Senate. She was very emotional.

I believe the time frame she laid out. I think she is a good person. I met her during her presidential campaign and I will say that she is a very warm and sincere person.

That said, it is clear that she has had issues with the African-American community stemming from her time as country prosecutor. We probably will not get a satisfactory explanation concerning the decisions she made as county prosecutor. That has to be a serious consideration and it doesn't seem like she is going to be able to overcome this part of her history. I don't see her on the ticket with Joe Biden. Whoever is the VP pick, it has to be a person who doesn't become the story.

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BannonsLiver

(16,358 posts)
1. Likely won't do her much good
Fri May 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
May 2020

I’ve already seen a few people here eager to lay much of the blame for this at her feet.

nsd

(2,406 posts)
3. If it is a lie, those people should be called out.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:07 PM
May 2020

If people are unfairly blaming Klobuchar, they should be called out. Eff the mob mentality. People who post bitter opinions on the internet without doing their homework do not deserve respect -- they deserve to be called out.

ETA: Including people on DU who didn't do their homework before blasting Klobuchar.

BannonsLiver

(16,358 posts)
6. I think it's just residual sour grapes
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:19 PM
May 2020

From supporters of one candidate that are mostly centered on how and when she ended her campaign and how that helped the eventual nominee, Joe Biden.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
2. Thanks for the fact check!
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:06 PM
May 2020

I wasn't a huge Amy fan in the primaries. But the record should be set straight for her.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
4. One thing we can bet the farm on that we will see from Republicans.....
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:13 PM
May 2020

No matter who the candidates are, if there's not a story they will invent one and amplify it a million times on RW public media and social media.


KY.........

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
7. I looked at some articles on this.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

I do not think it is fair to suggest she had much to do with prosecuting or not prosecuting this officer when she was Hennepin County Prosecutor

Celerity

(43,298 posts)
8. Klobuchar relied on grand juries to charge cops, seen today as avoiding accountability, and shied
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:38 PM
May 2020
from getting between police and diverse communities during a violent time in Minneapolis.


a great 2019 article from American Public Media:

American Public Media (APM) is the second largest producer and distributor of public radio programs in the United States after NPR.



Klobuchar didn't prosecute controversial police killings or brutality cases as a county attorney

https://www.apmreports.org/story/2019/03/25/amy-klobuchar-police-hennepin-county-prosecutor

This story was co-published with MPR (Minnesota Public Radio) News

Violence was a dark feature of law enforcement in Minnesota's largest county 20 years ago. Amy Klobuchar saw it firsthand as the Hennepin County Attorney, though she kept a distance. Over eight years beginning in 1999, the city of Minneapolis paid $4.8 million in legal settlements related to 122 police misconduct incidents. And police officers and county sheriffs were involved in 29 civilian deaths.

Klobuchar, however, chose not to criminally charge any fatalities involving law enforcement. Instead she routinely put the decision to a grand jury, a process widely criticized for its secrecy and for mostly allowing the police version of events. Klobuchar also didn't take on any of the misconduct claims.


The mother of a black teenager who was shot and killed by police in 2004 begged Klobuchar to file charges against the officer instead of presenting the case to a grand jury. "The grand jury is a way of hiding that the prosecutor is not giving the full information of guilt to the grand jury," Tahisha Williams Brewer wrote to Klobuchar at the time. "I want this process out in the open, where everyone can observe it and make sure that it is fair to my son." Klobuchar did not directly respond to Williams Brewer and proceeded to present the case to a grand jury, which found the shooting was justified.


Two years earlier, a riot broke out in the predominantly black Jordan neighborhood in north Minneapolis after police accidentally shot an African-American boy during a drug raid. Anger rose and trust fell quickly between law enforcement and minority communities. A federal mediator quickly arrived to try to calm tensions. Klobuchar didn't get involved. "I think there was a significant amount of indifference on her part with regards to the problems facing the Native-American and African-American community," said Ron Edwards, a longtime civil rights activist who served on a police relations council created through the federal mediation process.

As Klobuchar — a U.S. senator from Minnesota — begins a run for president, her past decisions to not use the power of her office to punish bad cops or stand up for the communities she otherwise protected will contrast with a more progressive Democratic electorate calling for greater police accountability.

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geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
10. Thank you for posting this.
Fri May 29, 2020, 01:56 PM
May 2020

I still think she was complicit by her action by using a grand jury instead of directly prosecuting.

Celerity

(43,298 posts)
12. her comment to Mitchell framed it like she took the most anti cop-brutality/murder action possible,
Fri May 29, 2020, 02:13 PM
May 2020

when it was actually very weak. She also tried to frame it as only about the last big controversial case, the one where she had an out, so to speak, as she was elected to the US Senate in the middle of it, so could say she had not responsibility. There were over 100 other examples before that, where she did have responsibility to do the right thing and failed.

She ran as a law and order hard ass (even praised Rudolph W. Giuliani's broken window theory.) You cannot have your cake and eat it too, especially at these lofty heights of potential VP speculation.


As a prosecutor in heavily white Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar declined to go after police involved in fatal encounters with black men

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/amy-klobuchar-was-a-tough-on-crime-prosecutor-will-a-diverse-democratic-base-accept-her-record/2019/03/21/739e6984-4057-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html

Christopher Burns, a 44-year-old black man, was unarmed and at home in Minneapolis with his fiancee and three young children when the police arrived in response to a domestic violence call. The officers put him in a chokehold, and he died on the scene, according to the medical examiner. The 2002 incident marked the third killing of a black person by the city’s police department that year, prompting local activists to stage rallies and demand that the two officers involved in Burns’s death face charges.

The focus of the community’s anger was Amy Klobuchar, the up-and-coming attorney of Hennepin County, who had declined to prosecute police accused of using excessive force against black suspects. “WE MUST NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS!” one activist group wrote in a newsletter. “Many people are watching to see if she will really fight for justice in this case.” Klobuchar, then 42, declined to bring charges against the officers, and a grand jury she convened did not indict them.

As chief prosecutor for Minnesota’s most populous county from 1999 to 2007, Klobuchar declined to bring charges in more than two dozen cases in which people were killed in encounters with police. At the same time, she aggressively prosecuted smaller offenses such as vandalism and routinely sought longer-than-recommended sentences, including for minors. Such prosecutions, done with the aim of curbing more serious crimes, have had mixed results and have been criticized for their disproportionate effect on poor and minority communities. “We were already a community in distress when she became Hennepin County attorney,” said Nekima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights attorney and former president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP. “Rather than taking steps to help mitigate some of those concerns and issues, during her tenure in office, her policies exacerbated the situation.”

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Tough-on-crime prosecutor

Klobuchar was elected prosecutor by promising “meaningful and, when appropriate, severe” consequences for people who break the law. When the 38-year-old corporate lawyer launched her 1998 campaign, the Twin Cities were recovering from a long wave of violent crime, and many communities were demanding help. Minneapolis had earned the nickname “Murderapolis” in 1995, when its homicide rate peaked. At the time, the ratio of African Americans to whites in state prison was among the worst in the country.

During her campaign, Klobuchar vowed a zero-tolerance approach toward nonviolent crimes by young people, including petty theft and vandalism. “The broken windows theory is correct,” she wrote in a 1998 candidate statement, embracing the policing theory popularized by then-New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and his police commissioner, William Bratton, in the mid-1990s. The idea was that cracking down on minor offenses can prevent more serious crimes. After beating her opponent by less than 1 percent, the new county attorney followed through on her campaign promises, adopting an aggressive approach to felony and juvenile prosecutions across dozens of police jurisdictions in and around Minneapolis.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
13. I caucused for Klobuchar in Iowa in February,
Fri May 29, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020

but I totally agree with your post. Whether or not it's justified, she would become the story, and it would be the swiftboat of the Biden campaign (since nothing else they've tried so far has stuck, i.e., Ukraine, Tara Reade, dementia, etc.) We just can't have that now or ever in relation to the AA community. Joe will surely realize that....and Amy should withdraw her name from consideration, IMHO....

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
15. we need to be careful of so called news attacking our candidates, the russia miss information
Fri May 29, 2020, 04:04 PM
May 2020

campaign, cyber war is going on hot and heavy.

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