Breaking: Derek Chauvin is in custody pending charges. UPDATE WITH CHARGES

[WhiskeyGrinder]

Link to tweet

This is a Minnesota Public Radio reporter.

Update: He's been charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter. Freeman says charges likely pending for the other three cops but not today.

[leftieNanner]

1. This is good news

Who wants to bet that Ass Face will pardon him?

[dware]

7. The Mango Menace can't pardon him,

this is a state crime, not federal, the Mango Menace has no authority to issue a pardon on someone convicted of a state crime.

[lostnfound]

12. FBI "involved", call it a hate crime, then clear him or slap on wrist...?

Nothing would surprise me anymore.

[dware]

15. It doesn't matter if the FBI is involved,

if the officer is convicted and sentenced to prison on a state crime, the president has no authority to pardon him, only the Gov. of such state has that power.

[lostnfound]

72. You're correct. Was thinking of double jeopardy SC ruling

But they affirmed that federal and state could both prosecute for same crime.

[dware]

75. Absolutely.

and the state gets the first bite, so any federal charges would be served after the state charges are served, and by then, the Mango Menace would be nothing but a distant bad memory.

[Brainfodder]

51. Death Count Donnie giving him a pardon? That is hilarious!

Might as well: Medal of Freedom winner the fucker too?

[dware]

54. It's amazing how many don't know that the president cannot pardon state

criminals, only a state Gov. has that power.

[sarisataka]

57. I'd say the thought the President

Can pardon a state charge has been debunked at least 100 times. It was even a feature in the resignation fantasies that Pense would not be able to pardon him for charges in NY.

Yet the same thing comes up over and over

[Brainfodder]

59. ... and thank goodness for that!

[duforsure]

25. He'll do like hes done before

He'll try to play both sides saying one thing one day , then another the next day. He will have Barr involved , and will claim he'll be behind prosecution , but once people vote he'll get Barr to intervene, or pardon him if they file federal charges, but he'll side with the cops , and lie saying the opposite , until he'a stolen their votes. Even before he is ousted from office he'll pardon these cops and either way he will try to get them off.

[dware]

31. it this murdering cop is convicted of state crimes and is sentenced to prison,

it doesn't matter if the Mango Menace were to issue a pardon on federal crimes, the state will get him first and the Mango Menace has no authority to issue a pardon on state crimes, only the Gov. of said state has the authority.

[sandensea]

80. Then again, what are the chances Mangolini will issue some 'signing statement'

claiming that, in effect, he "can."

We know Bill Barr is a master at those: he did, after all, work for the Bush mafia for decades - and they made a national religion out of signing statements to justify just about anything.

We also know we can't count on the Extreme Court to stop him if he does: they'll drag their feet for months - and then, once the elections are behind us, they'll glibly refuse to hear the case from Democratic lawyers.

"Not constitutional issue, and beyond the competency of this court" - or some such nonsense.

I hope I'm wrong about all that.

[dware]

81. He can sign all the statements he wants,

the plain, simple fact is that the state gets the first bite of the apple, the crime happened in MN, it will be prosecuted in MN and if convicted, he will spend time in a MN prison and no matter what the Mango Menace thinks, it is well established law that no president can pardon a state prisoner, only the state's Gov. has that power and I do believe the SC would uphold that.

[sandensea]

83. And if he tries to short-circuit MN, claiming "absolute presidential power of pardon"?

I realize it would be the very epitome of unconstitutionality - but since when does Cheetolini care about that?

And how can we be sure (or really, even hope) the Supreme Court would intervene?

Five of them are basically RNC lawyers in black robes!

(well, four - plus Clarence the overstuffed mannequin)

[dware]

84. I seriously doubt MN would relinquish control of him to the Feds,

they have law and history on their side, and by the time this even becomes an issue, the Mango Menace will be out of a job and Pres. Biden's DOJ will abide by the law.

[sandensea]

85. I agree, and have full faith in Gov. Walz - but I hope that'll be enough

Cheeto's desperate, as you know - and he now sees the potential for an L.A.-style race riot as something that could benefit him in November.

Pardoning Officer Chauvin (what a name!) in, say, October, might accomplish just that.

It's his new re-election strategy.

I didn't help Old Man Bush any in '92, of course - but you know how Cheeto is: he thinks the rules don't apply to him, be it constitutional, or political.

[dware]

86. I have total faith in Gov. Walz holding off the Feds

until the Mango Menace is out of office, then we would get a legitimate DOJ that will respect the rule of law and the state's right to prosecute this murdering pig and , hopefully, putting this danger to society away for the maximum sentence.

Then after he serves his state sentence, the Feds can have him to serve whatever he's federally convicted of and hopefully he's sent to the Colorado ADX supermax federal prison.

That would be justice.

[sandensea]

87. Well said.

Let's hope all this turns out just like that (for a change).

So much room for orange mischief in the meantime though.

I wouldn't put it past Cheeto to have some good cop killed somewhere, plant evidence pointing to some black guy, and then stoke even more violence - just before the elections.

"You think I could get away with it, Bill?"

"If George could get away with 9/11, you can definitely get away with this, Mr. President."

"That's what I like about you Bill: you think big!"

[dware]

88. Let's keep our fingers crossed and stay vigilant for such shennigans.

Like you, I don't put anything past this CIC. (Criminal in Chief.)

[sandensea]

89. Hear, hear.

So many good, conscientious lawyers in this country; I know they're trying their best.

That's just how it worked in many of these countries that somehow emerged from years-long dictatorships:

There were lots of protests and activism, yes - but it was democratic-minded lawyers that actually gave the push for change shape, that actually made it happen.

This is such a time.

[hlthe2b]

2. Good. How tragic that only now did they arrest when clearly they had "probable cause" all along.

[Aristus]

27. Only a judge can determine probable cause. But one should have done much sooner

before all this happened.

[hlthe2b]

29. They didn't SEEK an arrest warrant nor did the prosecutor. A judge would have authorized

And no, the police, the prosecutor, the investigating detectives DO act based on "probable cause" and they ALL know what consitutes such. They had it.

[dware]

3. Oh lord, let this be true,

and the other 3 should be in custody also pending criminal charges.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. The three other officers are not in custody.

[Leghorn21]

5. YES YES YES

[Shiv]

6. That's a good start (nt)

[BComplex]

20. But it's only a start, and it's not what needs to happen. All 4 of them should have been

taken into custody and arrested for murder.

[dware]

24. All 4 should have been taken into custody right then and there.

The video was enough probable cause for an arrest of all 4.

[BComplex]

30. Absolutely true. It should have happened immediately.

The state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis could have saved one helluvalot of money, property, and bad publicity, if they had just done the right thing to begin with.

It NEVER should have gone on this long. STUPID STUPID STUPID SPINELESS government officials.

[Doremus]

46. Systemic racism.

We can't glibly blame their actions on stupidity. They don't want to prosecute them.

[BComplex]

53. True.

eom

[Ohio Joe]

58. To be fair...

Systemic racism IS stupid. You are both correct.

[Shiv]

33. Agreed it's not even close to halfway there

Wasn't quite being sarcastic but yeah. Until the public relations officials who draft covering lies start falling within the accountability sphere as well I don't believe we'll reach halfway to what justice demands every time this happens.

[BComplex]

55. Welcome to DU, Shiv.

Scary name!

[Shiv]

70. Thx! Really love it here

The name is actually short for Shivan Dragon, I picked a user name based on that when I was a wee one and then that nickname sorta stuck xD

[DURHAM D]

8. Not yet being reported on CNN or MSNBC.

Please make this report true.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. It is true. This is a local report from someone who watched the announcement from the

state public safety commissioner, who was wrapping up the presser with the governor. The commissioner heard and called reporters back to tell them.

[sarisataka]

35. Local news confirms it

Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington announced the arresting officer in the George Floyd case has been taken into custody.

Former officer Derek Chauvin has been taken into custody by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

https://kstp.com/news/arresting-officer-derek-chauvin-taken-into-custody-by-bca-george-floyd-case/5743589/?cat=1

[honest.abe]

9. Very good news

Hopefully he is also charged and convicted of murder.

[Hortensis]

11. No surprise, but good.

[Squinch]

13. Thank God!

[MoonRiver]

14. Thank goodness!

Now arrest the other THUGS.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

16. Now maybe there will be justice.

[rocktivity]

96. If the jury can be convinced that Chauvin was merely "doing his job"

(and not illegally so if knee-to-neck moves are not forbidden) it wouldn't be his fault that Floyd had a bad heart or was possibly under the influence -- which means that ultimately this could all end up as being just another one of his misconduct complaints:

"The knee-to-neck move is banned by several major metropolitan police departments, but Minneapolis allow(s) police to restrain suspects' necks if they're aggressive or resisting arrest. Floyd was unarmed and handcuffed when he was pinned to the ground."
(link)

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[lagomorph777]

17. What about the other thugs who stood there and watched him commit murder?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. They are not in custody.

[lagomorph777]

26. Serious mistake. They are the Blue Wall and the wall has to be breached to prevent more attacks.

[BComplex]

36. The Blue Wall needs to be torn down in that city, starting with that police union boss.

The trump lover...what's his name.

[nolabear]

37. They may yet be. We don't know what's going on.

You’re right about the Blue Wall, but I’ve had a little experience with petit bureaucracy and you have to do things very carefully.

[sheshe2]

68. Actually someone here just posted a new video

This one from across the street and it shows three officers kneeling on him. Not one but three!

[Solly Mack]

19. MPR news link

https://www.mprnews.org/

Floyd protests: Cop in custody over Floyd death, public safety chief says


State public safety commissioner John Harrington just confirmed that one of the Minneapolis officers fired in the death of George Floyd, Derek Chauvin, has been taken into custody by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the agency Harrington oversees and which is conducting the investigation int Floyd’s death.

[cayugafalls]

21. Good news.

Hope it was soon enough...

[lagomorph777]

28. Too little and too late. The other 3 are still at large.

[cayugafalls]

32. Yea, that is my worry, they all should have been arrested pending charges...

It would have been the right thing to do as the other officers had the duty to Protect and Serve George Floyd, they failed in that duty by standing around and letting it happen.

[lagomorph777]

38. Accomplices to murder.

[herding cats]

22. CBS local link below

Former MPD Officer Derek Chauvin Has Been Taken Into Custody In George Floyd’s Death

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/derek-chauvin-arrested-george-floyd-death-minneapolis-police-officer/

[Stuart G]

23. Good News. K and R

[Tipperary]

34. They need to arrest that idiot that stood beside him too.

The one who said, “if he’s talking, he’s breathing.” Fucker.

[Sunsky]

39. Thank you Lord

Haven't slept well in days and I live in Florida.

[aquamarina]

40. It is about time.

[Johnny2X2X]

41. I just started crying

This is just such a relief. I was getting more and more wound up by the hour, this news just brought out all of the emotion.

[gratuitous]

42. Well, that was easy

All it took was videos shot from several different angles, three days of civil protest escalating into full-on police riots, destruction of several properties, and setting the cop shop on fire, and Chauvin gets taken into custody.

[geardaddy]

43. Good.

And note that it was the BCA who arrested him. Not "Drag My Feet" Mike Freeman.

[sarisataka]

45. Without naming names

Governor Walz press conference essentially was saying if Minneapolis and Hennepin county can't do their jobs the state will do it for them

[geardaddy]

47. I'm glad Walz stepped in.

[irisblue]

44. good. Local CBStwitter

Link to tweet

[dlk]

48. The other officers were aiding & abetting

They should all be behind bars.

[jaxexpat]

49. Betting that the local cops could not be trusted to make the arrest.

So the states Bureau of Investigation had to do it.
Also: Floyd looked mobile at the end of the video I saw. Is that accurate? Was he removed from the site on his own two feet? Or on a stretcher?
I'm wondering if Chauvin had a personal need to see Floyd silenced.

[dware]

52. Wrong.

Chauvin doesn't live in Hennepin County, the locals have no jurisdiction to arrest him, so it was up to the BCA to arrest him on the warrant issued out of Hennepin County, which would mean that finally, Freeman got his shit together and drafted a warrant for his arrest.

Now, go after the other 3 that just stood by and allowed this murder to happen.

[jaxexpat]

61. So it was state police that aprehended him?

I was wondering about the police union angle. Anything up with that? What's BCA? Bureau of Criminal Affairs? I'm guessing? Who does their footwork?

[dware]

62. Yes, it was the State Police that arrested him.

BCA=Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

I don't know about the union yet, AFAIK, they haven't issued any statement yet.

[Tipperary]

50. Where is the perp walk?

Where is the mug shot? Sounds like he is being treated differently than anyone else would be.

[safeinOhio]

56. Did he resist?

[sarisataka]

60. Charges filed

Murder and manslaughter per live press conference

[yardwork]

63. I don't think that 3rd degree murder is enough. I hope more charges are pending.

[sarisataka]

65. Under MN law 2nd degree murder

Would require showing another felony was committed. The 3d degree statute reads-

(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

I would rather start the charge low and work up than overcharge and have him walk free

[dware]

66. One charge I can think of that is absolutely provable is

oppression under the color of authority, that's a pretty serious charge.

[rocktivity]

77. 3rd degree/felony murder means that someone died because you committed a felony

I think Murders 1 and 2 were skipped because they're based on premeditation and conscious intent to kill respectively. Looks like they're counting on being able to prove that Chauvin, if not the three others, committed the felony of being derelict in their duties by using an improper police procedure.


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[irisblue]

64. Minnesota Public Radio says charges are coming for the 3 others

Source--https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/29/george-floyd


snip--"He said he anticipated charges for the three other officers who were fired in the incident.

“We felt it appropriate to focus on the most dangerous perpetrator,” Freeman said"

more at source

[Earth Bound Misfit]

67. Any pics/video of the perp walk...

... or did they bring the "poor guy" to Burger King?

[geardaddy]

69. Unfortunately not.

I would love to see that perp walk.

[Tipperary]

74. Me too, but I bet there will not even be a mug shot.

If they let him out on bail, all hell will break loose.

[geardaddy]

76. You're probably right.

There won't be a mug shot released.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

94. Got a mugshot off Twitter

[zentrum]

71. Problem is that ...

…..it's only because of cell phone video that these 4 cops didn't just slither off into the night and do it again next week to someone. No one but George Floyd's own community would have marked his passing.

The cops would have lied and said, "He resisted arrest"; "I was in fear for my life".

We have a profound systemic racism problem and until we deal with it, we're only as good as a chance video.

[rocktivity]

73. (Pre-click prediction) Voluntary manslaughter?

Last edited Sat May 30, 2020, 12:42 PM - Edit history (3)

According to Wikipedia, third-degree murder in Minnesota is "without intent to effect the death of any person, caus(ing) the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life;" and manslaughter is "the unintentional killing of another person through an act of recklessness that shows indifference to the lives and safety of others, or an act of negligence that could reasonably be foreseen to result in death. The act that results in death may be intentional, but...not...(the)...death (itself)."

I tried to get more precise info from the Minnesota government site https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/ but their servers were jammed at the time. So I guess it's all over but the pleading down to criminal negligence.


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[TexasBushwhacker]

93. 3rd degree murder can get him 25 years

Manslaughter would be less. Of course, federal charges may come into play as well.

[mvd]

78. Good to hear!

I would think 2nd degree murder would be possible with the other things they could charge him with (a post above says it needs another felony).

[SunSeeker]

79. More journalists were arrested in Minneapolis today than killer cops.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

[brer cat]

82. Is that not a scary fact?

trump has turned us into an upside down country.

[crickets]

90. *sigh*

The crew's arrest is a counterpoint, CNN political analyst Bakari Sellers said, to anyone who says, "All you have to do is comply; all you have to do is use your nice inside voice, and the police will leave you alone."

"We have a white reporter on the ground, and we have a brown reporter on the ground. They are a block apart. The brown reporter is arrested and the white reporter is telling us what's happening," Sellers said.

It's painfully obvious racism. Under the circumstances, you'd think they would want to avoid any arrests appearing to be racially motivated... but apparently not.

[SunSeeker]

92. Yes, painfully obvious. nt

[AntiFascist]

91. It's good the he's been charged, but prosecutors are clearly corrupt...

they should have charged him with the maximum possible charge which is second-degree murder. Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck almost 3 minutes after he became unresponsive, which can be argued to be evidence of intent to commit the murder.

[Progressive Jones]

95. I believe that the charges only came as quick as they did

to save Chauvin from certain death before the weekend was up.