I have read several articles which say that Mr. Floyd was arrested for "attempting to pass

[Atticus]

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a counterfeit $20 bill".

IF the bill in question was in fact bogus, would there not have to be proof that he KNEW it was a counterfeit before he would be guilty of a felony?

Locally, when the occasional counterfeit $20 or $50 or $100 is tendered at a store, the clerk checks it, confiscates it and notifies the local police. Unless the same person has a briefcase full of funny money or is linked to the passing of other bills at different stores, the "penalty" is that the customer is temporarily detained while being interviewed, has their name and identifiers included in an incident report and---they lose the amount of the bill.

I see no reason why Mr Floyd was "cuffed and stuffed" without more evidence than he presented a $20 bill that looked counterfeit.

Oh, wait-------------

[The Magistrate]

1. Exactly, Sir

Even if a counterfeit bill existed, the claim he was 'attempting to pass' the bill is nonesense on its face.

[LisaL]

2. Here is a transcript of 911 call that led to his arrest.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-full-transcript-of-george-floyd-police-call-released-20200529-spsyfhzezzcptfndp2ml26lhze-story.html

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. We can't depend on the complainant. They are way off:

Operator: Okay. Is he white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

Caller: Something like that.

[LisaL]

10. He knew the guy was black. Read further.

Sounds like he wanted to omit the guy's race from 911 call.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. He also wasn't sure if the guy was a guy or a "girl". "male or female" was too difficult for him

And he thinks a license plate is a "driver's license".

A bit dim.

[LisaL]

12. Maybe English is not his native language.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. That could be a factor. . . . nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Here's the complaint and warrant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/statement-of-probable-cause-for-charges-against-derek-chauvin/c9d6c27a-f037-4523-ac16-051a0f2dbe06/?itid=lk_inline_manual_3

[Srkdqltr]

4. Well they killed him before any crime was proven.

I doubt they knew why they took him.

[Thomas Hurt]

5. sure they did, there was a crime alleged...

and there was a black man in sight, so he did it. To most cops the black folks, the Mexicans are the ones who did it.

My step father was a racist cop, he just kept his mouth shut...most of the time.

[BamaRefugee]

6. When cops are judge, jury, and executioner, all within 9 minutes, it just saves SO MUCH TIME.

AND MONEY.
That’s why in countless cities and cases it ends like this, they usually get away with it at no expense for jail, trials, district attorneys, etc.

And the money they save can go directly into the “right” people’s pockets.

[dem4decades]

7. I get $100's at the casino and still wonder if they're all good. At least I did before the pandemic

changed the world.

[rufus dog]

9. based upon many of the same sources and using logic

If you were going to pass counterfeit bills and got one questioned in a store, what would your do?

1. Take off (to me the most likely scenario) If I had a load of them, would try to start passing them, not where I live, but miles away
2. Immediately try to b.s. your way out of it. I just got that bill down the road, are you friggen kidding me! (next most likely, maybe equal to above if I was too damn lazy and stupid to try to pass off outside my neighborhood)
3. When questioned, go out and grab another 20 to pay the guy. Thus leaving yourself opened for further questioning. (ARE YOU FRIGGEN KIDDING ME!)

In my life I have had one counterfeit bill that I knew about, a $1.00 bill. Paying for food at a fast food place, put it down and immediately could see the issue. I picked up the bill and gave the guy another one. Manager of the place tried to take it, wouldn't give it to him and told him, hell no, I am going back to the place I got it and letting them deal with it.

[LuvNewcastle]

13. Seems to me that if someone were suspected

of counterfeiting, the police would check to see if the guy had other counterfeit bills on him. If not, it was probably a case of someone unknowingly passing a counterfeit bill. If the guy had more, that would merit further investigation and would require taking him to the precinct and maybe getting a search warrant for his home. The man's record would be an issue, too. If he had had arrests for fraud or theft, that would also speak against him. Looks to me like they didn't do much investigation before they put Mr. Floyd in cuffs and started kneeling on him.

[Captain Zero]

14. Even if true, None of what was reported in the 911 call is a capital offense.

Yet Mr. Floyd was rendered lifeless by 4 cops.
There only job was to subdue him. Arrest him and transport him safely.

They did not do that.

[doc03]

16. I had also heard it was a forged check? nt