Sat May 30, 2020, 11:05 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

The effin a**holes are shooting at the PRESS!

Welcome to the new dictatorship of the effing moron.

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The effin a**holes are shooting at the PRESS! (Original post)	Lock him up.	May 2020	OP
Where?	Hoyt	May 2020	#1
Everywhere.	cayugafalls	May 2020	#2
Police shooting at press? Don't think so.	Hoyt	May 2020	#4
They are shooting	geardaddy	May 2020	#13
Aiming at press?	Hoyt	May 2020	#15
Yes, saw it live on local TV	geardaddy	May 2020	#17
Directly at them...	lame54	May 2020	#30
Yes	malaise	May 2020	#38
Sorry, Malaise, but they weren't targeting PRESS. They were firing pepper balls toward protesters,	Hoyt	May 2020	#40
You are wrong...	lame54	Jun 2020	#51
Where? Please say where. This disembodied "Twitter reporting" isn't helping.	Hekate	May 2020	#46
Just saw Ari and crew hit by tear gas.	sheshe2	May 2020	#18
If press were targeted, I'm really ticked. If they were standing with a crowd that was advancing	Hoyt	May 2020	#23
They weren't standing with a crowd.	sheshe2	May 2020	#25
I'll watch for Velchi's report. Press, in Atlanta, were treated very well.	Hoyt	May 2020	#26
Starting at 4 AM Central Time this morning	Tink41	May 2020	#31
As video in #27 indicates, Press was not targeted when Velchi was hit in leg.	Hoyt	May 2020	#34
You are referring to Ali?	Tink41	May 2020	#35
I'm referring to the OP who was referring to Velchi. Velchi was TARGETED, he was just there behind	Hoyt	May 2020	#37
I'm sorry	Tink41	May 2020	#50
Ali Velchi on MSNBC has been shot at by a NG who said "we don't care"	Lock him up.	May 2020	#3
I see where he was near some tear gas -- but you said SHOT. I don't	Hoyt	May 2020	#6
By a rubber bullet to the leg apparently. nt	tblue37	May 2020	#8
Apparently? OK. Think I'll wait for news where they drew down on him, it	Hoyt	May 2020	#9
He tweeted it himself.	Grasswire2	May 2020	#14
I saw him getting hit by a rubber bullet on the side of his left knee. n/t	Lock him up.	May 2020	#16
He tweeted it himself:	tblue37	May 2020	#22
Also	sheshe2	May 2020	#24
I saw that. I was watching him on MSNBC, he was tear gassed then shot with a rubber bullet	katmondoo	May 2020	#12
They aimed at him because he is in press? I don't support shooting anyone except	Hoyt	May 2020	#20
4 AM CST	Tink41	May 2020	#32
Jesus. H. Christ.	BigDemVoter	May 2020	#7
Velchi said it was a National Guard shooting at him (and his crew)	Lock him up.	May 2020	#10
Hopefully, he'll have video and someone will pay. I like Velchi.	Hoyt	May 2020	#21
A news photographer posted on Twitter that she's now blind in one eye from being shot	catrose	May 2020	#5
I was just reading about this. Awful, but she is amazingly steady about it. nt	crickets	May 2020	#19
I don't think that link is related to this post.	BlueLucy	May 2020	#11
Here's a good video, MSNBC makes it pretty clear they were targeting protesters, not PRESS.	Hoyt	May 2020	#27
Are you defending their un-Constitutional conduct?	Lock him up.	May 2020	#28
I prefer truth in headlines, even here. The PRESS wasn't targeted.	Hoyt	May 2020	#29
I prefer clear video where street lights are ON.	Lock him up.	May 2020	#33
OP was about Velchi. In your video, the reporter states "she's behind lines [of protesters]."	Hoyt	May 2020	#36
They hate video cameras and will count on those who will excuse their un-Constitutional conduct!	Lock him up.	May 2020	#39
Last night I watched mostly Atlanta news. The police were very accommodating to PRESS.	Hoyt	May 2020	#41
Yes	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#52
Velshi was hit in the leg by a rubber bullet...	AntiFascist	May 2020	#42
Yep, he was behind protesters, but they weren't TARGETING Press. Sorry.	Hoyt	May 2020	#43
Yeah, maybe you should watch the actual video...	AntiFascist	May 2020	#45
Watched it numerous times and he appears to be hit from the other side when he says, let me turn	Hoyt	May 2020	#47
If you watched the video then you know that Velshi kept repeating...	AntiFascist	May 2020	#48
And it wasn't even dark yet.	Lock him up.	May 2020	#44
In Kentucky, I think, one fired lots of pepper bullets	Blue_true	May 2020	#49

Response to Lock him up. (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:08 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

1. Where?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:09 PM

cayugafalls (5,200 posts)

2. Everywhere.

Looks the same in almost all cities with protest. News media is getting blasted as well as protesters.

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Response to cayugafalls (Reply #2)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:10 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

4. Police shooting at press? Don't think so.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #4)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:23 PM

geardaddy (23,762 posts)

13. They are shooting

rubber bullets and have arrested a local cameraman

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #13)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:24 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

15. Aiming at press?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #15)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:27 PM

geardaddy (23,762 posts)

17. Yes, saw it live on local TV

Here in Minneapolis. I don't have the video. I don't know if the cameraman was shot or the reporter, but the arrested the cameraman live on video.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #15)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:52 PM

lame54 (32,764 posts)

30. Directly at them...

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #15)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:16 PM

malaise (247,036 posts)

38. Yes

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Response to malaise (Reply #38)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:18 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

40. Sorry, Malaise, but they weren't targeting PRESS. They were firing pepper balls toward protesters,

and Velchi was behind the targets. I'm not for any firing, but the police aren't targeting PRESS is this case, any more than they are cars hit by pepper balls or tear gas.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:20 PM

lame54 (32,764 posts)

51. You are wrong...

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/05/trump-calls-his-troops-escalate-physical

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #13)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:44 PM

Hekate (78,100 posts)

46. Where? Please say where. This disembodied "Twitter reporting" isn't helping.

I'm not picking on you, by the way. I started calling this out last night (Saturday night). Someone was posting really incendiary stuff off Twitter, but it might have been happening in Podunk, Peoria, or the Moon, for all I could tell.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #4)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:27 PM

sheshe2 (76,717 posts)

18. Just saw Ari and crew hit by tear gas.

Also said to have been hit by rubber bullets. Same happened last night...several reporters hit by rubber bullets, not sure where.

Rubber bullets can be lethal.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #18)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:33 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

23. If press were targeted, I'm really ticked. If they were standing with a crowd that was advancing

on police, I’ll want to see Velchi’s report and video. I like him, and he’s the hardest working one on MSNBC.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #23)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:41 PM

sheshe2 (76,717 posts)

25. They weren't standing with a crowd.

They were down street. I was watching. They are targeting the press. I have money on who suggested they do so.

Also...
Police apologized:

Louisville police apologize for targeting news crew at ...
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-louisville-police-shoot-news-crew-tv...

They Are Targeting The Press.

They have their orders.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #25)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:47 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

26. I'll watch for Velchi's report. Press, in Atlanta, were treated very well.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #26)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:56 PM

Tink41 (537 posts)

31. Starting at 4 AM Central Time this morning

Video all over, different cities of press being shot at, and pepper sprayed. Also a Medic Station in one of the cities was shot at, nurse was interviewed

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Response to Tink41 (Reply #31)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:58 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

34. As video in #27 indicates, Press was not targeted when Velchi was hit in leg.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #34)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:02 PM

Tink41 (537 posts)

35. You are referring to Ali?

Like I said, I woke up at 4am to video on twitter of press identifying themselves and being targeted. Several different cities.

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Response to Tink41 (Reply #35)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:15 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

37. I'm referring to the OP who was referring to Velchi. Velchi was TARGETED, he was just there behind

protesters.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13511620

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #37)

Sun May 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

Tink41 (537 posts)

50. I'm sorry

Should have replied to you in the beginning of thread. Yes they were attacking the press. Documented by video all night long last night.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:10 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

3. Ali Velchi on MSNBC has been shot at by a NG who said "we don't care"

On MSNBC NOW!

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #3)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:13 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

6. I see where he was near some tear gas -- but you said SHOT. I don't

think that helps, unless you have a link.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:14 PM

tblue37 (54,546 posts)

8. By a rubber bullet to the leg apparently. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #8)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:16 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

9. Apparently? OK. Think I'll wait for news where they drew down on him, it

should be a big story on MSNBC tomorrow.

Not saying it didn’t happen, I’ve been watching Atlanta news tonight. Have not seen anything like that.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:24 PM

Grasswire2 (12,257 posts)

14. He tweeted it himself.

He was shot in the leg with a rubber bullet.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:25 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

16. I saw him getting hit by a rubber bullet on the side of his left knee. n/t

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:31 PM

tblue37 (54,546 posts)

22. He tweeted it himself:

Link to tweet

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #9)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:34 PM

sheshe2 (76,717 posts)

24. Also

Louisville police shoot reporter with pepper bullets ...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisville-police-shoot-reporter-with-pepper-bullets...

Kentucky Cop Shoots Rubber Bullets At TV News Reporter ...
https://etcanada.com/news/651028/kentucky-cop-shoots-rubber-bullets-at-tv-news-reporter...

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #8)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:20 PM

katmondoo (6,301 posts)

12. I saw that. I was watching him on MSNBC, he was tear gassed then shot with a rubber bullet

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #12)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:28 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

20. They aimed at him because he is in press? I don't support shooting anyone except

to save lives, but tear gas for crowd control— and MAYBE rubber bullets in a few situations— isn’t targeting press.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:57 PM

Tink41 (537 posts)

32. 4 AM CST

Same answer, trending all early morning that he was shot.

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #3)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:14 PM

BigDemVoter (4,006 posts)

7. Jesus. H. Christ.

I don't believe a fucking word the police ever say. They ALWAYS lie.

The police will deny this ever happened.

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Response to BigDemVoter (Reply #7)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:18 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

10. Velchi said it was a National Guard shooting at him (and his crew)

He said he yelled "PRESS" at him and the NG replied "WE DON'T CARE"

The Founding Fathers must have all spined in their graves at that exact moment!

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #10)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:29 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

21. Hopefully, he'll have video and someone will pay. I like Velchi.

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Response to Lock him up. (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:12 PM

catrose (4,592 posts)

5. A news photographer posted on Twitter that she's now blind in one eye from being shot

with a rubber bullet. Not her photography eye, she says.

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Response to catrose (Reply #5)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:28 PM

crickets (22,166 posts)

19. I was just reading about this. Awful, but she is amazingly steady about it. nt

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Response to Lock him up. (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2020, 11:18 PM

BlueLucy (1,289 posts)

11. I don't think that link is related to this post.

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Response to Lock him up. (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 01:36 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

27. Here's a good video, MSNBC makes it pretty clear they were targeting protesters, not PRESS.

"'There was no warning whatsoever': Police shoot tear gas toward protesters, MSNBC crew"

Not saying shooting rubber bullets was necessary, but there is no indication PRESS is targeted.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/-there-was-no-warning-whatsoever-police-shoot-tear-gas-toward-protesters-msnbc-crew-84141125529

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #27)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:41 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

28. Are you defending their un-Constitutional conduct?

At the end of the video, Velchi got hit: "I got hit!" "I got hit!"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142504064

The Black, un-armed protester there (exerting HIS Constitutional Right)... all that's missing are the tanks:
?t=20

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #28)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:50 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

29. I prefer truth in headlines, even here. The PRESS wasn't targeted.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #29)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:57 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

33. I prefer clear video where street lights are ON.

Don't tell me the un-Constitutional thugs can't see the crew holding the cam and the woman holding her mic. Nice try.

Link to tweet

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #33)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:14 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

36. OP was about Velchi. In your video, the reporter states "she's behind lines [of protesters]."

She even shows a stash of milk and water to ward off affects of teargas.

I'm not saying it's right to shoot anyone with pepper balls, but I don't see a concerted effort to target/silence PRESS. Sorry.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #36)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:18 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

39. They hate video cameras and will count on those who will excuse their un-Constitutional conduct!

Sorry.

NRA???
No lives matter???

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #39)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:20 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

41. Last night I watched mostly Atlanta news. The police were very accommodating to PRESS.

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Response to Lock him up. (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:28 PM

obamanut2012 (23,118 posts)

52. Yes

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #27)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:21 PM

AntiFascist (12,596 posts)

42. Velshi was hit in the leg by a rubber bullet...

I was watching after he recovered from coughing due to the tear gas, and then doubled over in pain grabbing his leg and finally the camera had to cut away. How is that not being targeted?

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #42)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:23 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

43. Yep, he was behind protesters, but they weren't TARGETING Press. Sorry.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #43)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:32 PM

AntiFascist (12,596 posts)

45. Yeah, maybe you should watch the actual video...

about 6:20 into it, there was one black protester and he was nowhere near Velshi.

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #45)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:56 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

47. Watched it numerous times and he appears to be hit from the other side when he says, let me turn

around and look in other direction. I'm not saying anyone should be shot, even with pepper balls.

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Honestly, when so-called protesters are doing this to store owned by Black ladies, something has to be done.

This is Atlanta, which I was watching last night. People, supposedly protesting George Floyd being killed by police, did this Saturday:

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/for-vandals-black-owned-businesses-not-exempt-during-atlanta-protest/gQoLWLIDLW49MVIodPA0ZK/

"The Wilbourns had hung hand-written signs identifying the shop as a black-owned business. However, those signs did not stop someone from throwing a rock through the boutique’s display window, breaking it to pieces.

"Other businesses, including black-owned ones, were damaged in similar fashion throughout the city."

This ain't protesting either:

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Personally, I'd like to see protesters lined up Monday morning around Governor's Mansion, Capitol, Police Station, even on major thoroughfares, holding signs saying "BLM" as patrols leave and officials arrive. It'll do more good than what's going on this weekend.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #47)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:18 PM

AntiFascist (12,596 posts)

48. If you watched the video then you know that Velshi kept repeating...

that the protesters were not doing anything violent and there was no reason for the officers to be firing on them. The violence displayed at other protests was not happening in this instance!

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #42)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:26 PM

Lock him up. (4,581 posts)

44. And it wasn't even dark yet.

I watched LIVE too.

Later on, like an hour or so after (when it was dark), he said they identified themselves (crew) by yelling "PRESS" and one of the un-Constitutional thugs' voice replied "WE DON'T CARE" at them!!

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Response to Lock him up. (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 05:18 PM

Blue_true (31,259 posts)

49. In Kentucky, I think, one fired lots of pepper bullets

at a reporter and her cameraman. They were clearly Press and had a yellow jacket on.

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