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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:22 PM May 2020

He is Nero without the violin



Yamiche Alcindor ✔@Yamiche

The country is literally on fire. People are fed up w/ black folks & people of color being treated unfairly — a suffocating racism.

And, the White House called a lid at 11:32 am so we aren’t expected to see President Trump today. But, he is tweeting — lashing out at Democrats.




12:19 PM - May 31, 2020


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PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
2. Yeah, at least Nero had some talent
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:24 PM
May 2020

Meanwhile, the White House should have put a "lid" on Trump's damn phone.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
5. Hmmmm....
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:29 PM
May 2020

We can't see him today, but we can hear from him--allegedly him, via Twitter? Is that really him tweeting? Did he have a stroke or some other cardiovascular event? Is he showing symptoms of a COVID-19 infection? This reeks worse than his shit-filled Depends.

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
8. "You are either part of the problem, or part of the solution"
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

Trump is a major part of the problem, if not the cause of the problem. Most of us know, but Donald Trump is too stupid to know. How do I know he is too stupid? These two tweets prove it..

An intelligent president, would have ..."Shut the F**k Up" and stayed away from this..Trump is very stupid, and he criticized the mayor which is even more stupid. Trump wasn't there, and if he was mayor he would have done worse. That you could bet on.

RockRaven

(14,886 posts)
11. In fairness to Nero, he was Nero without a violin too, and 2 millennia earlier
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:10 PM
May 2020

Nero played the cithara, a type of lyre. While he certainly fancied himself an accomplished musician/artist to a possibly insane degree, the fact that he played in the first place would have been pretty normal for someone with an aristocratic education.

And it is likely that Nero wasn't even in Rome when the fire started. We can't say for certain, and all the existing accounts are written after the fact. Tacitus says Nero was in Antium, and he immediately returned to Rome to organize relief efforts. He later engaged in large building projects in the destroyed areas - which is reasonable or suspicious depending on your perspective. The accounts of Nero starting the fire come from Flavian propagandists whose writings were intended to cast the new Flavian dynasty as returning imperial rule to how it was "supposed" to be as under Augustus, so the smearing of Nero was a logical/necessary maneuver. The notion that Nero fiddled while Rome burned first appears in the medieval period.

Nero was terrible, don't get me wrong, he's just terrible in different ways than what he's most infamous for.

The thing which makes Trump different/worse than Nero is that he won't even TRY to engage in any relief, recovery, rebuilding, or reconciliation of any kind.

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