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tman

(983 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:54 PM May 2020

Don't delude yourselves into thinking white/swing voters will leave Trump.

If anything he will fortify and increase his share of the white vote. I'm I worried? Nah, but I'm mystified by some of the glee and certainty that this will surely be the end of Trump.

Yes he looks weak, yes he looks incompetent, but you misunderstand the motivations of his voters. Anger and fear to name but a few..
They're not voting for him, they're voting for what he represents.

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Don't delude yourselves into thinking white/swing voters will leave Trump. (Original Post) tman May 2020 OP
Interesting BannonsLiver May 2020 #1
I agree Butterflylady May 2020 #7
He'll keep his solid 1/3, but that's it donkeypoofed May 2020 #2
Your concern is noted. marmar May 2020 #3
We may just as well give up. I'm not going to even bother to vote. Dream Girl May 2020 #4
ok chicken little the sky is falling...happy?? agingdem May 2020 #11
Yes. Quit those fruitless donations. Take off that bumper sticker. LakeArenal May 2020 #16
It's not in someone else's hands, it's in our hands. As Obama always said, "Don't boo...vote!" sop May 2020 #5
Agree 100% hibbing May 2020 #6
We already know that this country has more democrats than republicans Butterflylady May 2020 #9
Republicans..who amount to only roughly 1/3 of the electorate. paleotn May 2020 #10
I do too. Republicans and leaning Rs likely see recent events as spooky3 May 2020 #12
Doubtful.... paleotn May 2020 #8
Unfortunately, per 538, his base is closer to 42% across the country and spooky3 May 2020 #13
I can cite several instances of Trump voters I know. gibraltar72 May 2020 #14
You're confusing certainty with hope. LanternWaste May 2020 #15
There's no certitude. That's my point. tman May 2020 #18
Trump doesn't have "swing voters" ElementaryPenguin May 2020 #17
He didn't win a majority of the votes last time.. stillcool May 2020 #19
Bookmarking this to see how it has aged in November Jake Stern May 2020 #20
Bookmarking your bookmark BannonsLiver May 2020 #21
Hope I am wrong Jake Stern May 2020 #22

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
1. Interesting
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:02 PM
May 2020

I’m mystified (and amused) by those saying it guarantees him another term. So we’ve got that going for us.

Butterflylady

(3,542 posts)
7. I agree
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:12 PM
May 2020

He's got 1/3 of the country with him but the other 2/3 do not like what's going on, so no this is not good for him at all. Except for the magots people want a steady hand to guide us thru this turmoil and they know it isn't rump.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. We may just as well give up. I'm not going to even bother to vote.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:09 PM
May 2020

Is that was you’re looking for?

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
11. ok chicken little the sky is falling...happy??
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:18 PM
May 2020

I am so tired of this..panic, despair, OMG it's over!..enough, stop already!...yes, Trump has his moronic minions in his pocket...gee what a surprise...he can have them...not interested in "understanding" them bc, well white hate will always find a home ...we work to get some of the 49% 2016 non voters to the polls and we've got this...

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
16. Yes. Quit those fruitless donations. Take off that bumper sticker.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

Even tho, every single day, ALL republicans show us who they are. Vile, vulgar, vipers.

Put your head under your pillow for the next five years.

sarcasm thingie here.

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
6. Agree 100%
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:10 PM
May 2020

Once again stories around about the death of the party. Last time I looked he had 92% approval among Republicans.

Peace

Butterflylady

(3,542 posts)
9. We already know that this country has more democrats than republicans
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:18 PM
May 2020

And I'll wait till polling comes out once this all comes down to see where the dumb arse is. Till then, we can't really say.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
12. I do too. Republicans and leaning Rs likely see recent events as
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:18 PM
May 2020

MORE not less reason to support Trump. They provokes more fear and otherism in these people, rather than a genuine search for truth and justice.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
8. Doubtful....
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:17 PM
May 2020

Seems many left him in 2017, when his approval dropped to where it's been since then. He has roughly 1/3 of the electorate that's solid. Nothing more. The rest of are tired of his shit and would like nothing better than to return to pre-Donnie. Joe Biden couldn't represent that more if he tried.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
13. Unfortunately, per 538, his base is closer to 42% across the country and
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:19 PM
May 2020

Likely higher in swing states.

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
14. I can cite several instances of Trump voters I know.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

saying I will not vote for him again. I never expect them to apologize. But we get them one at a time.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. You're confusing certainty with hope.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

Confusing glee and regard.

Confusing motivation and idiocy.

Confusing your own certitude and simple prophecy.

"Don't delude yourself into thinking your fortune telling is absolute."




Delusional, indeed...

tman

(983 posts)
18. There's no certitude. That's my point.
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

You're confusing your own pseudo-poetic ramblings for profound philosophical analysis.

The confusion of "motivation and idiocy" is definitely an interesting one, when the two often go hand in hand.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
17. Trump doesn't have "swing voters"
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

He has rabid Fox News watchers, and Russians trolling and hacking election sites.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
19. He didn't win a majority of the votes last time..
Sun May 31, 2020, 01:57 PM
May 2020

this time, we may actually count 'all' the votes. Imagine that?

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
20. Bookmarking this to see how it has aged in November
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, sends older white voters and skittish suburban soccer moms scurrying into the arms of the GOP better than some nationwide rioting and looting.

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