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Sun May 31, 2020, 02:00 PM

This is NOT Bernie's revolution! It's a gross suggestion.

I see a lot of Bernie supporters posting about the riots and giving credit to Bernie. People are trying to say the anger is about student loan debt or Med 4 all. This is an insult and a big reason why Bernie lost the black community in massive numbers. This is about RACISM and POLICE BRUTALITY. There is a faction of the left that refuses to HEAR the black community and instead, they want to add there own reasons. Take a look at what some are saying here:

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I've never so thirsted for a revolution before –
There is a shift happening I can really feel it. The protest in Portland was charged up by young people who were really angry, I have seen more and more of this in the last year. The failure of bernie has seemingly added to that as well. People let him go when he told them to go to biden, they turned their backs and walked away. I am trying to figure ouT how I want to fit into this new paradigm But i am excited. I have been pretty down in the last 9 months watching the enviro and social justice groups wallow in politics people who call themselves anti war who post loving stuff about obama. I am letting them go.


I wish we could focus all these people into taking out the billionaires in the country destroying only their holdings their houses, their boats and planes. They have slaughtered so many people around the world it is time to deal with them.


https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/ive-never-so-thirsted-for-a-revolution-before/

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Reply This is NOT Bernie's revolution! It's a gross suggestion. (Original post)
BlueLucy May 2020 OP
BannonsLiver May 2020 #1
BlueLucy May 2020 #5
lapucelle May 2020 #16
BlueLucy May 2020 #18
The Magistrate May 2020 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #3
cyndensco May 2020 #12
demmiblue May 2020 #4
Celerity May 2020 #30
NanceGreggs May 2020 #6
BlueLucy May 2020 #7
lapucelle May 2020 #8
BlueLucy May 2020 #13
Jamastiene May 2020 #9
FirstLight May 2020 #11
BlueLucy May 2020 #14
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #15
Voltaire2 May 2020 #17
Lancero May 2020 #19
Voltaire2 May 2020 #27
Lancero May 2020 #29
Voltaire2 May 2020 #31
Lancero May 2020 #32
BlueLucy May 2020 #21
lunasun May 2020 #22
BlueLucy May 2020 #25
Voltaire2 May 2020 #28
lunasun May 2020 #35
FirstLight May 2020 #10
LizBeth May 2020 #20
backscatter712 May 2020 #23
Me. May 2020 #24
Hortensis May 2020 #26
mcar May 2020 #33
Trumpocalypse May 2020 #34

Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:02 PM

1. Ah the vicious Obama hatred shines through over at JPR

But I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact he’s black.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #1)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:04 PM

5. Indeed. They want to pass over the racism

They want to attribute the anger people are feeling to economics. This has always been where they fail.

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Response to BlueLucy (Reply #5)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:31 PM

16. What exactly does "taking credit for the riots" mean?

You sound like you think riots are a good thing.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #16)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:40 PM

18. I meant protest.

Either way.. They want to believe what is happening right now is about angry people upset over Bernie's loss, lack of Med 4 all and no relief of student loans.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:02 PM

2. Sounds Like Trolling To Me, Ma'am

And I bow to none here in my lack of patience with dead-end 'Bernie' supporters....

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:04 PM

3. Can't get much more clueless than that.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:25 PM

12. They usually wait until after the revolution is over to rewrite history.

They're early with this one.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:04 PM

4. You're obvious. Also, I don't care what they are doing over there. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #4)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:57 PM

30. +100000

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:11 PM

6. JPR? LOL!

That's the crowd that insisted HRC was dying of a dozen fatal diseases during her 2016 campaign, had to wear a metal body-brace to stand upright at campaign events, and used a body double in order to hide her illness from the public.



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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #6)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:15 PM

7. Yes! Like what they say here about Biden.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:18 PM

8. JPR? There's an awful lot of Trump-cheering racism and misogyny at that site.

Why would anybody bring it here.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #8)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:25 PM

13. I didn't know that until today.

You're right though. There is a lot of defending going on there right now. Defending white nationalist who are infiltrating the protest.


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If only
Right wing populist militia and various gangs joining ranks with anarchists against ruling class violence would be fine, a strong and united popular front of basic solidarity. But I’m afraid that’s still too much to hope 😀

https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/officials-claim-far-right-boogaloo-bois-fanning-flames-of-chaos-in-minnesota/

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:18 PM

9. You know. I did vote for Bernie this time in the primaries this year,

but I haven't heard him say one word about George Floyd's murder. Not. One. Word.

I'm not happy about that. I'm disappointed about that. I'm actually pissed off about that, to be honest. His ideas are great in theory, but where the fuck is he when it comes to civil rights? If he cannot be bothered to speak up on civil rights, then he is missing an important bit of character that I need to see in a politician.

If he cannot be bothered, I will gladly vote for the ones who can take the time to at least say something.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #9)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:21 PM

11. true...he has been silent...not in a good way

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #9)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:26 PM

14. It's never been something he genuinely cared about

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #9)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:29 PM

15. Bernie has always had a blind spot about institutional racism

and continues to insist that the solution is entirely economic - in other words, if after The Revolution all black people have good jobs and plenty of money they won't be discriminated against. Which, of course, is bullshit.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #9)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:39 PM

17. Oh. Wasn't hard to find. Here:


When we talk about systemic racism, we’re not just talking about Black lives killed by police with no accountability. We’re not just talking about Black lives killed by COVID-19. We’re not just talking about a third of Black children in our country living in poverty, and millions of Black kids going to totally inadequate schools. We’re not just talking about Black women having a maternal death rate three times the rate of white women, and Black families owning 1/10th the wealth of white families. Instead, we are talking about a system of pervasive racism that impacts every aspect of our lives. This has got to end. We need equity for Black people, for Brown people, and for all who are marginalized and made disposable in a system and an economy that treats millions of people as unworthy of the basic decency of human respect.

https://www.facebook.com/124955570892789/posts/3106029296118720/?d=n

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #17)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:41 PM

19. For it being a statement about George Floyd, his name oddly isn't mentioned.

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Response to Lancero (Reply #19)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:40 PM

27. Oh ok, so 22 hours ago:

"George Floyd’s murder is not only an outrage. It is the latest manifestation of a system that callously devalues the lives of Black people."

And yesterday:

"Every officer involved in George Floyd's murder must be arrested and held criminally accountable. Going forward, the DOJ must independently investigate every time a person dies in police custody. That includes officers who passively stand by and allow these killings to happen."

Same link: https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders

So the original complaint was that Sanders had not said *anything* about this.

What is the new complaint? Not good enough? Wrong words? Framed in a way some people don't like?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #27)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:53 PM

29. Then why not point to one of those statements in the first place?

Rather than the generic 'economy' response that makes up more than half of his rhetoric?

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Response to Lancero (Reply #29)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:01 PM

31. The original complaint was that Sanders had not said anything about the situation.

I posted the top post from his facebook page.

Then of course the complaint shifted to 'wrong words', 'all lives mattering' 'didn't even mention his name' etc. Despite the fact that the link to his page clearly shows that there a re a lot of posts from Sanders on the subject.

As usual, facts be damned,

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #31)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:04 PM

32. And your proof was a statement where Sanders didn't even bother to say his name.

That said, Facebooks actions have shown time, and time, again that they are no friends of the Democratic Party. So you'll have to excuse me for not wanting to click through and give that shithole of a website the ad revenue.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #17)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:45 PM

21. That's disgusting.

That's a nice switch and bait there, Bernie. This deserves it's on OP. Racism is not fixed with income equality. The central park bird watcher was higher on the social scale than the racist lady who called the cops on him.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #9)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:46 PM

22. Here is the you tube and twitter

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Response to lunasun (Reply #22)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:19 PM

25. Bernie literally All Lives Mattering the term "systemic racism"

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Response to BlueLucy (Reply #25)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:45 PM

28. Class analysis is not 'all lives mattering'.

But I suspect that you know that.

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Response to BlueLucy (Reply #25)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:23 PM

35. Oh I was replying to the statement that he has been silent and hasn't said anything at all

It was just to show that he hasn’t been silent
So you agree he did say something, just something you didn’t like ?

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:20 PM

10. no, just no...this has nothing to do with Bernie dammitt

whoever you see talking like this is NOT who they pretend to be.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:42 PM

20. Sanders never stood with BLM. No, it is not Sanders revolution.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:49 PM

23. JPR? It's pretty clear that board's run by Russian or GOP ratfuckers.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 02:51 PM

24. THey Will Take Credit For Anything

Saw a pundit do it this morning. They just can't get used to the fact that he isn't the nominee and he doesn't have enough delegates to insist on whatever he wants on JB.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 03:29 PM

26. After Sanders conceded in 2016, he took a powder, just

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walked away from that type of follower, and specifically the ones who ended up at JPR, without explanation.

And now he's done it again in 2020: left them behind and gone to join the Democrats fighting the White Power Party without them. So, when that crowd over there finally have the riots they know someone should be taking over and harnessing for the great revolution, they once again sit abandoned and bewildered.

And it is sad to witness. But neither self awareness nor understanding of their world are exactly strong points over there, and their angry befuddlement and bitter attempts to make JPR-sense of real-world events should stay there.

It is their misfortune, of course, that they were able to come together over there when told they couldn't act out Hillary Derangement and loathing of Democrats on DU any more. Together they've only slid farther down the rabbit hole. But their problems need to stay there, not brought to DU.
Even Sanders isn't interested. Not at present anyway.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:18 PM

33. JPR is a small group of haters who left here in 2016

They are awash in unreality.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Sun May 31, 2020, 04:21 PM

34. Unfortunately

 

Many Sanders supporters, not all but many, are privileged white people who have no clue about the struggles that African Americans go through every day.

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