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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 04:07 PM May 2020

Florida's Seen a 'Statistically Significant' Uptick in Pneumonia Deaths.

The CDC Says It’s Likely COVID.

Since the beginning of this year, Florida has experienced an uptick in the number of pneumonia and influenza deaths, according to data from the Centers for Disease and Control. Experts and Trump administration officials responsible for keeping tabs on mortality rates across the country believe that many of those individuals had likely contracted and died from COVID-19.

According to the data from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, since the beginning of the year there has been a total of 1,519 deaths in Florida where pneumonia and influenza were listed as the underlying cause. By comparison, in the same time period last year, Florida recorded 1,207 such deaths. The CDC has historically counted pneumonia and influenza deaths together. CDC officials told The Daily Beast that most of the deaths included in that category are pneumonia.

Bob Anderson, the chief of the Mortality Statistics Branch in CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told The Daily Beast that the increase of deaths in Florida where pneumonia and influenza were the underlying cause was “statistically significant” and that those mortalities were “probably COVID cases that weren’t reported as such.” The coronavirus can cause lung complications such as pneumonia.

The increase has sparked a conspiracy theory on the left, that Florida is deliberately trying to undercount coronavirus fatalities by labeling them as something else. There’s no evidence to suggest any such underhand efforts, or that the state is unique across the country. But officials, including Anderson, do believe that a portion of the pneumonia and influenza deaths in Florida involved patients who were infected with, but never tested for, COVID-19. In such scenarios, though the virus likely contributed to the death, it may not have been recorded as the cause of death by the physician, coroner or medical examiner.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/floridas-seen-a-statistically-significant-uptick-in-pneumonia-deaths-the-cdc-says-its-likely-covid/ar-BB14P9eH?li=BBnb7Kz
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Florida's Seen a 'Statistically Significant' Uptick in Pneumonia Deaths. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
Why Is It Considered a Conspiracy Theory for Dems To Say FL is Under Counting Its CV Cases? Indykatie May 2020 #1
"There's no evidence to suggest any such underhand efforts, or that the state is unique" lapfog_1 May 2020 #2
Didn't we read that Florida had changed some death certificates...but not well enough! Karadeniz May 2020 #3

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
1. Why Is It Considered a Conspiracy Theory for Dems To Say FL is Under Counting Its CV Cases?
Sun May 31, 2020, 04:11 PM
May 2020

We have evidence that is certainly the case. The woman responsible for maintaining the system to counts such deaths was forced out of her job and she cited her unwillingness to fudge the numbers as the reason.

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)
2. "There's no evidence to suggest any such underhand efforts, or that the state is unique"
Sun May 31, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

first off, the governor SAID this is what they would do, so it's hardly a "conspiracy theory".

Second, Florida is definately "unique"... hence the term "Florida man"

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