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[BannonsLiver]

1. "But but 1968!1111111"

Thank you for sharing this. However anecdotal it at least pushes back on the defeatist, chicken shit narrative that has been floated here by some in recent days.

[greenman3610]

34. +++

this is not 68.
None of this is helping the GOP

[MarianJack]

40. I turned 13 in June of 1968 and I had volunteered to stuff envelopes for Bobby Kennedy.

In 1968 the party was horribly divided, unlike today.

#notmypresident

RESIST

[Happy Hoosier]

2. Glad to hear it...

Nurture those green shoots, but drown them. I wish my in-laws would have such an epiphany.

[Solomon]

3. Love these stories.

Congratulations on the relief you must be feeling.

[gibraltar72]

4. Another example of one at a time.

I never expect one of them to apologize. It isn't in them. But they can be nudged into seeing a lie then they start thinking critically. I'm sure you are very happy.

[CountAllVotes]

5. Glad to read this

My late father would have NEVER voted for dump.

He did not vote for pukes. Period.

Glad your father figured it out!

[Vogon_Glory]

42. My late father would have LOATHED Donald Trump

Of course my Dad was a Republican of a different era. Despite the fact that he could be emotional and vocal about politics from time to time, he made it a point to temper his views with facts, research, skepticism and reason. Admittedly he was the sort of Republican who was skeptical about the innate goodness and perfect ability of humanity and unfavorable towards expanding government and bigger bureaucracies, but he did not believe in giving knee-jerk support towards big business and the pseudo-libertarian views that permeate the R’s today.

I think he would have studied Donnie’s character and business dealings, then, with irritation and occasional grumbling, have voted for the church-going Methodist grandmother in 2016.

Of course his sort of Republican has been driven to near-total extinction by right-wing RINO-hunters.

[CountAllVotes]

43. My father remembered Herbert Hoover and 1929

Becoming homeless and no money left. Nothing.

Life in a shack.

For how long I do not know but after they all died, I found a bunch of old stock certificates, one for $1,000 purchased in 1928.

They lost the whole load and he never forgot about it.

I never forgot about it either because it molded my view of what a puke is and what a Democrat is.

You vote the damn ticket. That is what I grew up believing. There was no room in the house for a stinking puke. Nope. None.

[Warpy]

6. I had one just like him

only mine retired in Florida. He never watched Pox, said it was for morons, but he loved the illusion of those Federal tax cuts, even though he realized (and I wasn't too polite to point out) that every time one happened, it cost him more at the state and local levels than he'd saved.

Mine announced out of the blue in 2004 he was voting for Kerry. I was too busy trying to pick my mandible off the floor to ask why, but that was his last major vote.

Big Dummy fooled one hell of a lot of people out there who either bought the lies or thought his reality show persona was the real guy. I think most of them are realizing their mistake, whether or not they admit it to us.

[SharonClark]

7. Good. Hope he doesn't switch back.

[Goodheart]

8. Don't mean to be mean, BUT...

anybody who assesses that trump's IQ is 140 is.... I'll just shake my head.

[WinstonSmith4740]

45. I kinda feel the same way...

I mean, the man's a pathological liar, but I have friends that are educated people who think he graduated at "the top of his class" at Wharton.

But I'm willing to bet the OP's dad is of either my generation or my dad's. Chances are he grew up believing what you heard in the media because of the Fairness Doctrine, and also because Fox News didn't exist. And while we knew politicians lied, it didn't tend to be about EVERYTHING. I'm sure at one point, Trump claimed he had a 140 IQ, and it was picked up and developed a life of it's own. Kind of like how he claimed his father's holdings as his own to get on the Fortune 500. Blatant lie, of course, but it got him on the list, and once he was there, doors opened.

This country, (and I'm 72 this month) has NEVER seen the level of depravity displayed by this blithering maniac, and we got through Nixon. But I'll bet we're all hearing a lot of the same things "in the wind" from the Republicans in our lives. They may still like his policies, and (God help us) his style, but they know our country can't take 4 more years of this. And I'm willing to bet that at 2 in the morning, when they're all alone with their thoughts, they know deep down inside that he'll kick them to the curb as fast as any of those "friends" he threw under the bus at the first sign of trouble.

[Music Man]

9. The exact same thing has happened to a few former students of mine who I know are/were conservative.

Students who were members of Young Republicans in high school with whom I have been friends with on Facebook since their graduation.

One in particular has shocked the hell out of me given the vitriol of her anti-Democrat postings. Like your dad, it seemed to start with Covid and the lack of seriousness and crisis management Trump has displayed. But the events since George Floyd have crystallized her anti-Trumpism, saying that you cannot support the protests and Trump.

2020 may be Trump's annus horriblis.

[mnmoderatedem]

10. Where in hades would he get the notion that trump has a 140 IQ?

he's easily 100 points short of that.

[LittleGirl]

46. I call him IQ45. eom

[smirkymonkey]

11. Thanks for sharing the news!

[Blue Owl]

12. As a nation, we must come together and say "FUCK DONALD TRUMP"

n/t

[Demovictory9]

13. kick

[FM123]

14. Wonderful news!

I had a neighbor and a friend's sister dump trump recently too. With both of them, they reached their limit when the reality of covid19 crashed against the lies of their former dear leader...

[3catwoman3]

15. That's a hell of a turn around...

...in just 2 weeks.

[kgrande63]

16. There is a lot of that going on

The reason Trump is behind in polls in because there has been a shift from people over 65 years old. Many took a chance on him because they did not like Hillary but now they are literally dying because of Trumps inept response to Covid 19. Whether people like Joe Biden or not , seniors like him. He speaks their language. My mom voted for Trump last time after voting for Obama twice. I call her every night. You only get one mom and dad, just be good to them, the people who are 70 to 80 years old have gone through much more than you and I have had to go through. (probably) I think my mom might be voting for Biden. Seniors view the world differently.

[Books_Tea_Alone]

24. I agree- this is why they are still a big part of my life

Unfortunately my brother became physical with me while defending T.rump. He always was a hothead deplorable and my life is better and safer without him in it. Friends that support T.rump too- just not worth my while to pretend to enjoy their company for social reasons.

[apkhgp]

17. Congratulations

We have do that with a couple million more Right Wingers.

[DIVINEprividence]

18. Blood is thicker than politics

Love conquers all. We are all human and get led astray from time to time. If we want to win these voters over, we have to extend the olive branch and open the door

[Books_Tea_Alone]

23. I can see that thank you..I will get there someday

[mtngirl47]

19. I don't think my 85 year old parents will ever tell me if they change their minds

about Trump. I said nasty things to them when he was elected. I asked them if they had all their mental faculties. I asked them if they were proud to vote for a man who bragged about assaulting women. It was a bad day.

Since then we only discuss the weather and the family. They don't watch Fox when I'm at their house, and I don't watch CNN or MSNBC when they are at my house.

[Books_Tea_Alone]

22. This was the situation with my family as well.

My brother threw a glass of water at me over this (hence why we do not speak) My parents and I could not talk politics and he was absolutely dug in right up until last week. I challenged them with the fact they had daughters, granddaughters, children in cages, mocking special needs citizens, it was so bad. There is hope.

[ALBliberal]

20. 140 IQ? I think not. Coincidentally this is Obama's

IQ. I remember as it’s also my daughter’s IQ.

[tclambert]

25. Yeah. That's why Trump threatens so sue anyone who releases his grades or his SAT scores.

I don't think Trump even knows what IQ stands for. He might guess what the "I" stands for, but he won't get the "Q."

[ALBliberal]

27. In fairness Obama IQ estimated at 140 to 142. He hasnt

Released it. But yes... Trump so unintelligent with no imagination nor curiosity. SAD

[mwooldri]

33. There is a reason Trump is nicknamed IQ45. NT

[Wounded Bear]

21. One voter at a time...

[people]

26. Hell has frozen

Thank you for letting us know.

[Hortensis]

28. Books, if you perk up his days with a little chat now and then,

I'd love to know how Fox lost him. Denouncing Fox sounds as big as Trump to me.

Congratulations.

[MLAA]

29. Hurray!

Wish my dad would have the same epiphany!

[FakeNoose]

30. Wonderful to hear - this is happening all over the country!

I cannot match your story because my father is no longer living. However I want to believe that my Dad, who was a lifelong Republican, would have done the same this year. He would have finally seen through all the lies and the BS. The Republican party NOW is nothing like what our Dads grew up with, it has completely gone to hell. Anyone with a lick of sense can see that.

[Joinfortmill]

31. The tide is turning

[PatSeg]

32. Wow

That really is extraordinary, like someone coming out of a hypnotic trance and returning to sanity. Amazing that your father finally could see that Trump cannot speak over a first grade level and lies constantly. Giving up Fox News is very encouraging. I'm so happy for you and your father!

[jimlup]

35. Don't take anything for granted...

There is a great deal of time between now and November 3rd. If your father flipped he can flip again. Fall will be a shit show. Get ready.

[Upthevibe]

36. Books_Tea_Alone....

I'm so glad that your dad has turned around. I'm heartened EVERY time I hear one of these stories.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR STORY....

[ecstatic]

37. Great! I don't see how the riots would help trump

Like many on DU are saying.

trump is the one who brought the nation to the low point we're at now. Who in their right mind would want 4 more years of his divisive bullshit?? 4 more years of chaos, incompetence and lies?

[Pacifist Patriot]

38. It definitely has. My MIL wants Biden to pick Mayor Bottoms as his running mate.

When I got that text yesterday, I damn near fell out of my chair. Literally! I think I scared my husband.

[SoonerPride]

39. One down. 50,000,000 to go.

I'll take every ally we can get!

[pandr32]

41. That is wonderful news

You must feel so relieved--like a giant wall has come down between you and your parents.

[Maru Kitteh]

44. Where there's one, there are many.

Great news. Thank you for sharing this!

[Karadeniz]

47. Forgive. He has seen the light. His one vote didn't put Trump in office. With Texas's electoral

College vote system, Trump got all our votes. Millions of people went unseen, unheard. We might as well not have voted. It's the system that's the problem.

[onecaliberal]

48. I guess the 65 and over crowd are not exactly thrilled with republicans wanting to sacrifice them

for the economy.