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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,111 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 08:28 PM May 2020

Pentagon has troops on 4-hour standby to go to Minneapolis if needed

The Pentagon has placed a small number of U.S. Army units on a four-hour standby to deploy to Minneapolis if Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz requests them to help end the violent protests, but so far Walz has indicated he will use only National Guard troops from his state or neighboring states. If the active duty troops are requested, a senior defense official said they will only be providing support to local authorities.

"At this time there is no request by the Governor of Minnesota for Title 10 forces to support the Minnesota National Guard or state law enforcement," said Jonathan Rath Hoffman, the Pentagon's chief spokesman, in a statement. "As a prudent planning measure, the department has directed U.S. Northern Command to increase the alert status of several units should they be requested by the Governor to support Minnesota authorities."

These are units that normally maintain a 48-hour recall to support state civil authorities for several contingencies (like natural disasters) and are now on 4-hour status," said Hoffman.

A senior defense official said that the shortening of response times for all types of missions, including those for civilian support, is not unusual, but did not know when the last time they had been modified in response to civilian disturbances.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pentagon-troops-4-hour-standby-minneapolis-needed-215834564--abc-news-topstories.html

Cadet Bonespurs is just chomping at the bit.

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Pentagon has troops on 4-hour standby to go to Minneapolis if needed (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP
RWers want to use the Insurrection Act. See this thread, including reply 7: highplainsdem May 2020 #1
Is Russian troops nearby as well . . Iliyah May 2020 #2
If any Governor chooses this option he is ushering in Trump's dictatorship. Thomas Hurt May 2020 #3
Um, not so fast here. Warpy May 2020 #4
Not if the Insurrection Act is invoked DetroitLegalBeagle May 2020 #5
Dunno, that act is pretty specific. Warpy May 2020 #6
2 of the 3 paths avoid the state and give the President authority to invoke the act sarisataka May 2020 #9
That is what I thought too. Tipperary May 2020 #7
The problem is that this is organized and has nothing to do with protests Warpy May 2020 #8

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
4. Um, not so fast here.
Sun May 31, 2020, 08:51 PM
May 2020

It is illegal to use US troops in police actions against US citizens on US soil.

State National Guard units can be called out.

Dumbass seems to be itching to declare war on his own country.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
6. Dunno, that act is pretty specific.
Sun May 31, 2020, 11:08 PM
May 2020

I can see Gov. Walz refusing the "help" in favor of letting the National Guard assist the cops in clearing roads, etc.

Big Dummy declares war against this country, Putin might be pleased but I doubt few other people would support it, not even in the law'n'order suburbs, many of them who are dimly realizing Big Dummy's blustering and bullying were instrumental in creating this mess by encouraging RWNJs who hate everybody.

sarisataka

(18,220 posts)
9. 2 of the 3 paths avoid the state and give the President authority to invoke the act
Sun May 31, 2020, 11:52 PM
May 2020

The first cause to invoke the act is state request:

If there is an insurrection in a State, the President, at the request of the State’s legislature, or Governor if the legislature cannot be convened, may call National Guards of other States into Federal service as well as use the Federal military to suppress the insurrection.


The second was used during the 50's and 60's:
Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages or rebellion against authority of United States makes it impracticable to enforce the law of the United States in any State or territory by judicial proceedings, the President may call into Federal service the militia of any State and use the Federal military to enforce the laws or suppress the rebellion.


And the third is more general, also used during desegregation:
(a) it so hinders the execution of law of that State and of the United States and it deprives citizens of constitutional rights (e.g. due process); or (b) it opposes or obstructs the execution of laws or impedes the course of justice. In the event of the deprivation of rights, the State is deemed to have denied its citizens equal protection of laws.


To invoke the Insurrection Act the President would have to issue a 'proclamation to disburse' and give a time for the insurrectionists {protesters} to comply. There doesn't seem to be any verbiage of how long or short that time may be, after which he may use active military units to enforce the laws.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
8. The problem is that this is organized and has nothing to do with protests
Sun May 31, 2020, 11:23 PM
May 2020

This is from Denver: https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2020/05/denver-police-seized-assault-rifles-from-anti-government-gun-activists-at-friday-night-protest/24690/

I visited their site on Farcebook and it is terrifying and of course Zuckerberg thinks they're just peachy.

They're gearing up for a race/civil war that the Turner Diaries convinced them all was a dandy idea.

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