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why was this man arrested????????? (Original Post) brettdale Jun 2020 OP
I've seen cops do a lot of evil things in the last few days, kas125 Jun 2020 #1
+100000 Celerity Jun 2020 #3
Un f*k believable! davekriss Jun 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Jun 2020 #2
wtf Celerity Jun 2020 #4
That's easy. Talking in the presence of white dudes while black? Hav Jun 2020 #5
They arrested him for saying he considers them brothers and prays for them? Pacifist Patriot Jun 2020 #6
How are they going to get to use their shiny batons to hit people if this guy's spreading love Ohioboy Jun 2020 #7
+++++++++++++!! 2naSalit Jun 2020 #9
This. Sad. nt crickets Jun 2020 #32
Absolute... Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #8
Yup davekriss Jun 2020 #24
The term Gestapo Chainfire Jun 2020 #10
They probably tested him for drugs. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #11
Inciting? moreland01 Jun 2020 #12
Do we know where this was? BaileyBill Jun 2020 #13
The Twitter thread says this happened in Charleston, SC FakeNoose Jun 2020 #14
This needs to be kicked until we find out what happened. Shit. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2020 #15
I have seen this happen in Seattle and it usually means spike jones Jun 2020 #16
Respectfully, that is not a good enough reason in these circumstances Jarqui Jun 2020 #18
All I am saying is that I have seen it go down like that. spike jones Jun 2020 #21
Some capable decent cops do wait for "a time and place" Jarqui Jun 2020 #27
The blue wall of silence makes EVERY cop a criminal. spike jones Jun 2020 #28
President Obama does not agree with you: Jarqui Jun 2020 #29
Thanks, I will. spike jones Jun 2020 #30
Thank you so much for your service Jarqui Jun 2020 #33
Thank you for your kind words. spike jones Jun 2020 #34
So what certainly kacekwl Jun 2020 #19
Exactly, and there are many on the police force that want to do just that. spike jones Jun 2020 #22
That was appalling in every way UpInArms Jun 2020 #17
He might demoralize our cause! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #20
Marion Square, Charleston, SC. Charleston PD, call the crimestoppers number: 843-554-1111 Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #25
That Tweet has gotten over 193,000 likes already PatSeg Jun 2020 #26
Is it possible he was wanted or in violation of probation / parole? PTWB Jun 2020 #31

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
23. Un f*k believable!
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jun 2020

That was awful. Whoever ordered that, whoever executed the order, they need to be removed from the force.

Response to brettdale (Original post)

Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. That's easy. Talking in the presence of white dudes while black?
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:27 AM
Jun 2020

I'm definitely interested as well to hear about an update to find out what the police made up for his arrest.

Chainfire

(17,471 posts)
10. The term Gestapo
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:05 AM
Jun 2020

comes immediately to mind.

Perhaps the cops were trying to bait the crowd to violent action.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
11. They probably tested him for drugs.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:07 AM
Jun 2020

To those guys, he was raving. Speaking in tongues about brotherhood and love. The voice that grates on conscience. Unacceptable, against all protocol and training.

moreland01

(736 posts)
12. Inciting?
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:08 AM
Jun 2020

I'm sure these idiots will accuse him of inciting the others, which is absolute bullshit.

That young man was talking to the wind. I feel like each one of those cops is my adult nephew who loves dressing up in soldier/cop attire and playing cops and robbers with his AR-15 and other weapons. They NEED an enemy or their persona doesn't work.

FakeNoose

(32,594 posts)
14. The Twitter thread says this happened in Charleston, SC
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:13 AM
Jun 2020

If that's the case, the police in Charleston mishandled the entire incident. There was no reason to arrest this man but the cops just stood there waiting for a reason to use their batons. At least they didn't draw their guns but still, no reason to arrest this guy. It was a peaceful demonstration until the cops showed up.

The way to handle this is to put down the sticks and have a preacher or civic leader (perhaps the mayor) talk to the guy, let him talk and then quietly disperse the crowd. The whole thing would have been over in a few minutes.





spike jones

(1,676 posts)
16. I have seen this happen in Seattle and it usually means
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jun 2020

there is an outstanding warrant for him. Perhaps a minor one. Being present at an event like that may be breaking probation.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
18. Respectfully, that is not a good enough reason in these circumstances
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:37 AM
Jun 2020

Their actions could have triggered something ugly.

The guy was talking about caring for the cops - wanting to understand them, etc.
Nothing sinister was going on with him.

They want to arrest him for a probation violation or something?
There's a time and a place for that. This wasn't that time or place.
It was stupid, dangerous thing to do.

But we have no evidence that the guy had any such probation violation or warrant against him ..

spike jones

(1,676 posts)
21. All I am saying is that I have seen it go down like that.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

Of course the cops wanted to arrest him on any grounds.
I am not defending their actions at all. I have also seen friends arrested without resisting only later to find they are charged with resisting and assault on an officer. If you think the cops wait for "a time and place for that'' you are living in a dream world.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
27. Some capable decent cops do wait for "a time and place"
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:03 AM
Jun 2020

Painting them all with a broad brush isn't fair, right or accurate.
Just like painting black kids with a broad brush isn't fair, right or accurate.
Some of them are upset about George Floyd and other incidents like it and some "joined the parade" yesterday.
I'm sure a number of them had mixed feelings facing the angry protesters they have while trying to protect property - wanting to do their sworn duty to protect people & property while uncomfortably standing beside some prejudiced officers who helped bring this on

spike jones

(1,676 posts)
28. The blue wall of silence makes EVERY cop a criminal.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jun 2020

If you have 10 bad cops and 1000 good cops and the 1000 do not stop the 10, then you have 1010 bad cops.
The only way to reform the police force is for the police to do it themselves and for 200 years they have refused to do so. I've way enough of the few bad apples bull shit. Nothing disrespectful to you personally.

spike jones

(1,676 posts)
30. Thanks, I will.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020

I spent the weekend in Seattle, slept in the back of my truck on the streets, cried myself to sleep every night. I am 75 years old and protested police brutality in Seattle and Portland since WTO 1999 and am just so tired of the same old shit from the cops. Sitting here now waiting for the virus to hit.

spike jones

(1,676 posts)
34. Thank you for your kind words.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jun 2020

I re-read my post and it seem more dramatic that it was. It was not like I slept in my truck under a bridge, I parked it in front of my nephew’s place on a quiet residential street in the U District. Typically, I would have stayed with them, but for the virus now.
For several years now I have been more of an observer of the Seattle protests. I no longer run in the streets. As you may know there is always an edge to these things, and you can be as close to, or as far away from the sharp end of the action as you want. Even when it gets chaotic, there is always an edge. And typically, you can just walk away any time you want. I wore a cloth mask all the time except when in close I wore my gas mask. Protesting in Seattle for twenty years, so yes, I have a biological warfare grade gas mask. So, I think I will be all right.
It is important for me to show up at demonstrations because the only way they get results is if a lot of people are there, (and unfortunately the only way they get press coverage is if there is violence), but the very least you can do is show-up. Resist.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
20. He might demoralize our cause!
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:42 AM
Jun 2020

Arrest him before he causes some of us to lose our resolve! He's like a black male version of Hanoi Hannah!

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
25. Marion Square, Charleston, SC. Charleston PD, call the crimestoppers number: 843-554-1111
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020

Call their crimestoppers number and report this.

(843) 554-1111


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PTWB

(4,131 posts)
31. Is it possible he was wanted or in violation of probation / parole?
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jun 2020

I see nothing in his filmed actions that would warrant arrest.

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