I've just moved to favoring Susan Rice as the V.P candidate (from Elizabeth)

[ElementaryPenguin]

Rice is smart as hell, tough as nails, incredible resume - very Presidential.

Val Demmings is my second choice.

How do others here feel about Rice for this pick?

[blitzen]

1. Ditto. n/t

[still_one]

2. Susan Rice has always been one of my top favorites, especially based on her

international experience

[Mike 03]

3. She's my #1 too, for the reasons you set forth.

Absolutely drop-dead brilliant with massive expertise in foreign relations. She can think at the speed of light and defend herself and others against any attack. She cannot be surprised by any question. She never sounds rehearsed. She has a base of knowledge that is superior. She can speak on any subject at a moment's notice.

I've seen DUers say, "Oh, but they'll drag up Benghazi" but my response is, no matter who the nominee is they will fling crap at them, and Susan Rice without a single doubt can defend herself.

Kamala is my #2.

[JHB]

4. I'll add: and she's not a sitting US Senator, so no risk of losing a seat

[ElementaryPenguin]

6. Exactly!

[Mike 03]

13. Exactly!!!

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. Yes. She certainly can defend herself!

Benghazi will backfire completely. Nobody f-cking cares about that bullshit story at this point!

[padfun]

5. She's been my pick all along.

She has the brains and experience. And would be a great President should something happen to Biden, or to take over for Biden in four years.

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. i honestly can't think of anyone I'd had more confidence in that could step in and be President...

Male or female.

[Borchkins]

7. my $.02

Susan Rice revives all the Benghazi crap.

I want Val Demings.

[ElementaryPenguin]

11. But Benghazi is such a loser issue for the GOP

Nobody gives a shit about it now - with all hell broken loose under Scump!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Nobody gives a crap about Benghazi any more.

[ElementaryPenguin]

22. They really don't.

Going there would look ridiculous - with pandemic, a depression, racial tensions high, cities burning... (not to mention a lunatic who's been impeached and his hiding out in a bunker tweeting inflammatory messages.

Beng...what?

[uponit7771]

26. For the relatively few MAGA Cultist, ... why?

[BannonsLiver]

51. +1

This is why she will not be the pick.

[NCjack]

8. Oh, yes.

[tritsofme]

10. I think it would be insane. No reason to introduce controversy with a VP pick

I like her quite a bit, but why rehash all the Benghazi nonsense in the middle of a campaign?

She is more than capable, but it would be unnecessary controversy. I think she will be a leading candidate for Secretary of State

[ElementaryPenguin]

17. Fox News will find a controversy for every VP choice.

Benghazi is about as dead an issue as there is.

[tritsofme]

21. I disagree, it would be a major unforced error.

Her association with the controversy is completely unfair, but presidential campaigns are about winning.

She simply does not by my estimation help the ticket more than or equal to any other potential candidate not associated with such a controversy. There are better options.

[ElementaryPenguin]

24. Respectfully, I'm not sure there are (any better options).

Though there certainly are many other good ones.

[uponit7771]

29. This is crazy, Bhengazi was dead issue to the left then you think it'd be out front now ?! Really?!?

[uponit7771]

27. Why favor right wing positions for dem candidates? None of that matters to the left

[ElementaryPenguin]

31. Good point.

[tritsofme]

60. What right wing positions? She has unfairly become controversial.

A VP nominee should first do no harm, and there is just nothing positive for Biden’s campaign with rehashing all the Benghazi nonsense.

Biden’s calculations extend further than “the left” he is trying to win a national election.

[uponit7771]

61. She's ... NOT ... controversial among left progressives. Who cares about right wing stupids? Not ...

... getting your logic here.

Faux plays to 35% of the electorate which didn't win Trump the election the last time it was 3% of the left who voted 3rd party in swing states that did

[tritsofme]

63. I guarantee the Biden camp's deliberations on the subject are not this cavalier

I would be shocked if she was picked.

[ElementaryPenguin]

64. Shocked? Really? I wouldn't.

Biden thinks very highly of her. So does Obama.

[tritsofme]

65. I think very highly of her as well, just don't think she is a good VP option.

[uponit7771]

66. That's not an answer to the question. Stupid right wing issues are not issues on the left or even...

... the middle why would anyone care about them?

If you have any polling now that the middle or the left gives a damn about Bhengazi I'll take them.

thx

[StarfishSaver]

67. Because if we pick just the right person, the right wing won't attack and lie about them

So let's be sure to pick the most milquetoast, least controversial person we can find and Republicans will just leave us alone.

Maybe Tim Kaine is available ...

[tritsofme]

68. I think Kamala Harris or Val Demings would each be stronger VP picks.

[volstork]

15. I've heard her speak,

and she is SO impressive. She has command of extensive knowledge, is pragmatic, strong, and does not take herself too seriously. She's the full package.

[ElementaryPenguin]

19. She's so methodical and level-headed.

[volstork]

20. Another couple of great

adjectives to describe this amazing stateswoman.

[ElementaryPenguin]

36. Yep.

Stateswoman. She truly is. You've just added another.

[Towlie]

16. This is not like deciding how to vote; I'll get 100% behind whomever Joe Biden picks.

But yes, I've always had a lot of confidence in Susan Rice.

[ElementaryPenguin]

18. Me too.

[Pacifist Patriot]

23. Same here

[Wounded Bear]

25. I could get on board with her...

[ElementaryPenguin]

28. Kinda hoping someone around Joe catches this thread.

[Wounded Bear]

30. I have to imagine Ms Rice is on the short list...

if for her foreign policy experience if nothing else. If we want to start repairing our international standing, Rice would be a dynamic choice. She'd probably be a damn good SoS, too.

[ElementaryPenguin]

33. I agree. And she's very close to Biden.

And Obama, of course.

[Demsrule86]

32. No...it will be Benghazi, Benghazi and Benghazi.

Tammy Duckworth or Val Demmings.

[ElementaryPenguin]

35. Benghazi was an absolute nothing burger back then...

And it's been substantially reduced in stature since then!

[Demsrule86]

69. Bad idea....hands the Trumpers ammo.

[BannonsLiver]

52. Duckworth will be the pick IMO

[Demsrule86]

70. She eould be grest.

[CTyankee]

34. Val was on MJ today and pretty good.

Funny how we look a these potential VP candidates and they are all DAZZLING! And I don't mean their looks: offering diversity, solid backgrounds, past achievements. We have an excess of riches before us. Biden is one lucky candidate. And we can be one lucky country if we just get this done as Dems! We have the talent! It's up to us to get this done, Dems!

[kstewart33]

37. great idea! nt

[Blasphemer]

38. I see her as the next SoS but I would certainly be happy if she was VP

Or if Warren was... or if Demmings was... or if Abrams was... or if Harris was. It would be hard for Biden to make a wrong move. All of his options are highly qualified, impressive, and able.

[Bettie]

39. I do not want the narrative to be

Benghazi...she lied...over and over and over and over.

And you know it will be because she was the one who got picked to go on the Sunday shows.

ETA: I don't think she lied, she told what they knew at the time, but that's what the messaging from the other side will say.

[NewJeffCT]

40. I think she is terrific

but, my concern is that she's never run for elected office. I think she'd do a great job, however, and I would love to see her as Secretary of State

[ElementaryPenguin]

45. I agree, she'd make a great Secretary of State.

No question.

[shockey80]

41. Susan Rice checks all the boxes.

Extremely smart, qualified and has a lot of experience. She also worked for Obama.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

42. I think she would be perfect for Secretary of State. nt

[Alex4Martinez]

43. I liked her before these riots, and like her even more now. eom.

[ElementaryPenguin]

48. My sentiments exactly.

[Ninga]

44. No! Rice would need on the job VP training. It is imperative that the VP have Congressional and

Legislative experience and knowledge of the process.

Biden and his team will need to get legislation passed to help right the ship of state.

The VP will need to caucus with leadership, whips, and legislative bill authors.

Rice is brilliant and not the right person.

[ElementaryPenguin]

47. She's brilliant. She'd learn that process.

[Ninga]

53. It would take precious time away from being productive. On the job training is often

fraught with un planned for surprises. TheN surprises have to be unwound. Precious resources (people) will not have the time to hand-hold or walk-through.

All hands on deck will be working round the clock.

Yes, she is brilliant, wrong time for her.

[jcgoldie]

46. I am liking Demings or Bottoms

For their personal qualities, current events, and electoral geography.

[ElementaryPenguin]

54. I like them both a lot too.

[MrsCoffee]

49. Biden/Harris 2020.

That's the ticket.

Fired up!
Ready to go!

[ElementaryPenguin]

56. Good ticket, too.

I'd also LOVE to see Kamala going after Trump, Barr & Co. as Attorney General!!

[cry baby]

50. She would be my 1st choice. nt

[ElementaryPenguin]

55. Gotta be on Biden's short list.

[Baltimike]

57. Ham sandwich. I'm in. nt

[ElementaryPenguin]

58. True dat! LOL!

ANYBODY but Trump!!!!!!!

[skip fox]

59. Sober, intelligent, caring, thoughtful, . . . everything Pense is not.

[ElementaryPenguin]

62. My Gawd, would she ever pummel Pence in a debate!

They might stop that one early in the first round!

[leftyladyfrommo]

71. Susan Rice or Elizabeth Warren. nt