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Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:35 PM

Has anyone seen this letter from Minneapolis Police Union leader Bob Kroll?

Oh man...







https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/calls-for-minneapolis-police-union-leader-bob-kroll-to-quit-after-he-sends-letter-about-george-floyd-unrest

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Reply Has anyone seen this letter from Minneapolis Police Union leader Bob Kroll? (Original post)
tenderfoot Jun 2020 OP
Lucinda Jun 2020 #1
niyad Jun 2020 #2
BComplex Jun 2020 #3
LakeVermilion Jun 2020 #25
BComplex Jun 2020 #28
JHB Jun 2020 #29
aquamarina Jun 2020 #4
MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #5
uponit7771 Jun 2020 #6
Hekate Jun 2020 #7
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #8
geardaddy Jun 2020 #9
sop Jun 2020 #10
geardaddy Jun 2020 #20
sarisataka Jun 2020 #11
geardaddy Jun 2020 #19
mshasta Jun 2020 #12
DBoon Jun 2020 #13
mn9driver Jun 2020 #14
geardaddy Jun 2020 #15
Cognitive_Resonance Jun 2020 #16
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #17
Blue Owl Jun 2020 #18
Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2020 #21
spanone Jun 2020 #22
Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #23
Hav Jun 2020 #24
RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #26
AntiFascist Jun 2020 #27

Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:45 PM

1. KNR

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:47 PM

2. A truly sickening example of a very sick mind.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:49 PM

3. That is a letter written by a white supremacist.

It might as well be on nazi letterhead.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:46 PM

25. Just guessing here, but

Kroll is part of the 96% of the Minneapolis police force that doesn't live in the city where they work.

Citizens of the city have the responsibility to get the type of policing that they want. The police don't get to dictate the standards for the community. This is the problem, Minneapolis police want to dictate the rules of behavior for the city. If they refuse to act according to the standards set by the city council, the mayor and by default, its citizens.

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Response to LakeVermilion (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:25 PM

28. Very good point, LV. If they don't live in the district, they don't have to play by their rules?

Or share their values? Sounds about right.

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Response to LakeVermilion (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:33 PM

29. You are correct on that point.

Only about 8 percent of Minneapolis police officers live in city limits
Of the department's 873 officers, 72 live in Minneapolis ZIP codes.
By Libor Jany Star Tribune August 24, 2017 — 7:29am

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“We lost a lot of good people to a lot of other agencies when they did that,” said Lt. Bob Kroll, the police union president, citing a since-repealed 1994 state law that briefly granted Minneapolis the authority to require all new city employees to live where they work. “And they never came back.”

Each officer has his or her own reason for living outside the city, Kroll said. Some move away because of cost of living and school considerations, while others want to avoid having off-duty run-ins with people they arrest.

In the late 1990s, the union led a successful push to limit the power of Minneapolis and St. Paul to make their employees live where they work.
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Kroll is not one of the people whose home zip code is within city limits.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:49 PM

4. This right here

describes perfectly what is wrong with most cultures inside police departments. Blame everyone except for yourselves. Police departments have had decades to clean house and weed out their 'very few" bad apples but haven't done so. Instead they defend and excuse and defend and excuse. Pathetic.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:51 PM

5. Did you see this part in his letter?

"Our chief requested 400 more officers and was flatly denied any. This is what led to this record breaking riot."

NO, YOU FUCKING FOOL!!!!!!

A police officer killing a man with his knee on the neck of a man who had "the wrong skin color" is what led to this "record breaking riot!"

It is blindness like this that is going to allow the abuse of peoples' rights to continue until we have leadership in administrative and legislative positions that will finally take action to bring it to an end.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:51 PM

6. Robert Kroll supports openly racist leaders like Donald Trump

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:52 PM

7. Clearly right on board with Trump's call to the Govs calling them "weak" & telling them "dominate!"

Trump said Minnesota is "the laughing stock of the world" -- where have we heard this before?

Trump sounds more like a tin-pot dictator all the time, and this guy is right there with him.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:54 PM

8. You work under the politicians and...

... FOR the people, MF'er!

If you don't like it, step down or be STEPPED ON!

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:55 PM

9. Fuck Kroll and his toadies.

I do not want to pay his damn salary anymore. This fucker has been a shitstain on Minneapolis for far too long.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:58 PM

10. The only mention of George Floyd is to accuse him of a "violent crminal history."

Kroll does not write a single word about the despicable police act caught on video, the one that set off this uprising. The so-called "terrorist movement" Kroll claims has been growing for years is a direct response to terrorist policing tactics that police union bosses like him have enabled and defended for so many years.

I'm all for police unions engaging in collective bargaining for things like better wages, retirement benefits and improved working conditions, but police unions can no longer be allowed to dictate policing tactics and policies. Police unions are holding a loaded gun to the heads of elected leaders, threatening all manner of dire consequences if they are held accountable for illegal acts. We can no longer negotiate with these terrorists.

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Response to sop (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:27 PM

20. Except the terrorists aren't the protesters

The terrorist movement that is burning the city is outside instigators emboldened by Trump and Kroll and other white supremacists.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:00 PM

11. If it was possible to get rid of Kroll

The MPD would see an immediate 15% improvement.

He is the wall that blocks every attempt at reforming the department

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:25 PM

19. Exactly.

He needs to go and now.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:01 PM

12. And that's why still riots all over the USA

This is why, they are the root of the problem.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:08 PM

13. So we have a union allied with a criminal gang of white supremacists?

Now what happened to the Teamsters because they were also aligned with organized crime?

Perhaps it is time to put some police unions under federal receivership.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:10 PM

14. Kroll is a far right Trumper.

He hates the Chief, the City Council, the Mayor and the Governor. He also hates the liberal city that his Union is supposed to protect.

I am a proud Union member and support labor rights, but this guy is poison. The Minneapolis cops need to have a recall vote and get rid of him.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:12 PM

15. Kicking for visibility.

This needs to be broadcast everywhere.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:13 PM

16. Quite an eye-opener regarding what ails the Minneapolis Police Dept. n/t

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:14 PM

17. Police Unions tend to be fucked up that way.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:22 PM

18. Once again the magic touch of trump

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:30 PM

21. It portrays the general attitude of most police.

Which is "Us against Them" and them is anyone not a member of the force.....

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:33 PM

22. Hey Lt. Bob. Go fuck yourself.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:38 PM

23. The police unions are the biggest terrorist groups in the country. n/t

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:38 PM

24. There cannot be any healing with this guy

at the top of the police union. Particularly after the recent events, it's a joke that anyone should even accept that a white supremacist can be the president of the police union. It's a slap in the face.

So much wrong in this letter even besides blaming Floyd which will go down well. This is fanning the flames at a remarkable level. He's part of the problem.
But there's also this suggestion in the letter that the use of lethal force would have been a factor in ending the protests sooner. This guy shouldn't be in charge of anything.
Maybe all those good cops shouldn't vote to be represented by white supremacists.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:12 PM

26. Typical

 

Could not care less about the "incident" other than damage control.

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Response to tenderfoot (Original post)

Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:19 PM

27. K&R this is the core problem that needs to be addressed! n/t

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