Who do you think are the white agitators we're seeing at all these protests?

[chia]

I've been thinking that some are antifa/black bloc, some are white nationalists, some are foreign provocateurs, some could be unaffiliated thrill seekers. However - one thing seems common across all types, they seem very prepared with all the tools they need, and they all seem to casually drift in, work fast and expertly, and disappear quickly. Any insight or information would be appreciated.

Also - seems to me the proud boys types show up to be seen and to cause disruption for the sake of making a scene, while the others are there with a job to do and they do and get out.

[Salviati]

1. Regardless of their ideology, they're all on the same team

They are allies in dividing us against each other, they are allies in creating chaos and fomenting unjustifiable violence.

[chia]

7. Yes I realize that, but it's also important to know what their ideologies are

[exboyfil]

12. That is why the EO is so awful

It draws a conclusion without facts in evidence. I think it would be good for Biden to say that it doesn't matter the ideology of the vandals or thieves, but they should be judged on their actions. Anyone participating in a conspiracy to damage and/or steal property or commit violence should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[chia]

13. The EO also paves the politically useful way to connect anarchy with the Democrats, and even though

it's a false narrative, it's one the right will lap up (Antifa! Commies! Socialists! Hillary! Our culture is being destroyed! Aaaiiiiieeeee!!!!"

[exboyfil]

2. Seems the argument against the Executive Order

should have been that it reached a conclusion not in evidence (Antifa). How about going after any organized obviously anarchist group of any political persuasion (since I have a tough time distinguishing political philosophies when the tactics are the same).

[bbernardini]

3. Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, 3%s, Kaitlin Bennett... nt

[DownFromTheMountain]

4. Anyone seen Erik Prince?

That's the question.

[DURHAM D]

5. Erik Prince Militia

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213518133


He could not infiltrate ANTIFA since they don't really exist so he recruited/paid/funded disrupters to travel around and create chaos.

[chia]

10. Okay thank you, this adds another dimension

[Doremus]

22. Bingo

There it is. No doubt in my mind you're correct.

[Ferryboat]

6. Here in the PNW

Video's of organized looters. Ransacking a store piling into a car and moving on.

Individuals wearing latex gloves breaking windows tossing firecrackers?

White people spraying BLM?

Seems like agitators to me.

[chia]

8. Exactly. I've seen it happen live, in real time watching the livestreams, and they know what they're

doing, and they work quickly and melt back into the crowd.

[CountAllVotes]

9. They seem to be a bunch of white kids with not a whole lot to do

They decide to attempt to mimic the past (and no this is not the 60s or the 70s). They cannot do this and they are accomplishing nothing but more hatred and more violence.

This type of protesting, or whatever you care to call it (looting in some cases) does no good at all.

It makes a mockery of what America is all about and it just adds fuel to a fire that is already burning except now the fire is becoming out of control.

I never thought I'd go to bed at night and every time I hear a bang or a loud noise I wonder if someone is trying to break into my home or yard or worse yet, kill me.

This is not the America I grew up to believe in. Sorry kids.

[backscatter712]

11. Boogaloo bois. Alt-right groups like Proud Boys, neo-nazi groups, klan groups, etc.

Maybe some of the nazi chuds are dressing up in black and pretending to be "Antifa" - their goal is to discredit the protests and instigate a violent crackdown.

[Polybius]

16. Do you really think there are that many Nazis, Klan, and Proud Boys to do this?

Do you think zero are far-left Generation Z?

[backscatter712]

21. There are a number of them, more at certain cities than others.

From what I've been hearing, these white-supremacist groups will road-trip from their homes in Bumfuck, AL. Minneapolis has seen a number of them. Portland and Seattle get regular visits from the Proud Boys.

Obviously, they're not all the people at the protests - maybe one in a thousand, but that one-in-a-thousand is the one that starts the dumpster fire, smashes the first window, or throws bricks at the cops. And there are plenty of opportunistic looters as well.

[Doremus]

23. Eric Prince has the means and the motivation.

He can produce the people and props from his vast black ops resources.

I'm sure there are a number of opportunistic anarchists, there always are, but this is more than that. This was orchestrated and pre-planned. It's got Prince's name written all over it.

[Polybius]

14. My close friend is NYPD

He works in a part of Brooklyn that had some trouble. He told me from where he's been stationed, the only ones rioting and causing mayhem are white Generation Z, younger Millennial, and a small amount of Xers and Boomers. The black and Hispanic protesters are doing just that: peacefully protesting.

Are they Nazis causing trouble? No, there just aren't enough of them to do this, thank God. Different extremes also have a different "look", as you can tell by most of the Nazis caught over the years.

[Brainfodder]

15. Random Array of Republican Assholes or R.A.R.A. for short?

[LeftInTX]

17. The ones arrested in San Antonio were thrill seekers

They probably were hanging around downtown for other reasons than the protest )Saturday night on the town) and decided to get in on the action once it got dark.

We don't attract antifa/black bloc around here though. We have our white nationalists, but they stand at the Alamo with their stupid guns and are fairly heavily armed. The police generally do a good job of separating protesters from the gunslingers. (Mainly because we have a history of this)

[lunasun]

18. There were a few outed on social media . They had trump social media pages but not aligned with

hardcore groups like you mentioned
I have to think some of the white people are just looters looking to drop a window and take stuff they planned to get from the store .
ANTIFA out among the crowds too probably
That’s just my opinion & i bet in places like WH/DC there are plenty of infiltrated filth stirring up violence

[Raine]

19. Anarchists ... nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. It looks like every "group" has done bad stuff.

It's hard to KNOW who is who, but I feel like I can't blame any group in particular after watching events with my own eyes.

[jmg257]

24. Think you pretty much nailed it. Any ass with somehting to gain by stirring shit

is getting out there...stirring shit.

[crickets]

25. K&R for the post and the discussion.

[chia]

26. Adding: Identity Evropa

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213527622

[gollygee]

27. The ones around here were supposedly Oath Keepers

I imagine they all talk