I have a lot to say about Van Jones but I'll keep my counsel to myself

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[we can do it]

1. I'll say it, fuck van jones.

[Demonaut]

3. we need a "like" button

[renate]

2. What did he say?

[hatrack]

4. Was this the moment that Donald Trump became President?

Asking for a friend . . .

[Tipperary]

5. Cannot stand him.

I was attacked here a year or so ago for saying that, but people seem to be catching on finally.

[LisaM]

6. He's two-faced.

I agree with you entirely. He can seem perfectly fine, reasonable, and intelligent (which I believe he is, intelligent, that is), and then it's like a coiled viper rose from its nest. I don't find him trustworthy.

[Tipperary]

8. I have a longtime friend who has argued with me for several years that I judged him too harshly.

She finally agrees with me. And THAT never happens lol!

[Bev54]

10. He isn't

He is the king of two sides are the same. He believes the dems should work with the repubs, like WTAF, they are complete moron obstructionists. Cannot stand him, and haven't for a few years now.

[JHB]

7. Choose to do which-ever is better for your blood pressure.

If that means holding it in, you're already set. If it means venting and maybe a hidden post? How big a deal is that?

[zentrum]

9. Been out at protests

…..all day so have maybe missed something. Can you say what this is about? What did Van Jones do or say?

Thanks.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

11. Something he said

two years ago.

[zentrum]

12. Do you know...

…what it was? Is it too terrible for anyone in this thread to tell us?

This is strangely mysterious.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

13. He said this is

the day Trump became President. I think it was after a speech Donnie gave.

[zentrum]

17. Ah, finally. Thank you.

Legitimizing Rump in any way is dangerous.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. He said it on May 29th

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/500158-van-jones-a-white-liberal-hillary-clinton-supporter-can-pose-a-greater-threat

[zentrum]

18. Thanks. Now I see...

...the problem.

[LiberalFighter]

19. I heard that and thought it was disgusting too.

[dawg day]

15. I saw Van Jones give a speech last year, and it was all about Trump

"supporting" Jones's criminal justice program (I think it's to help released inmates reenter society). He kept praising Trump in a sort of defensive way-- "I know none of you like Trump, but I'll always be grateful...."
He was so clearly bending over backwards to seem all fair and impartial. It got ridiculous. Okay, so maybe Trump allowed something Jones supported to happen, but we know he just as well could have destroyed the program just because-- because nothing matters to him, and most everything else Trump has done was bad for the people Jones wanted to help.

It was just too ... performative. Jones was all "I am such an even-handed fellow!"

My friend who came with me (who prides himself on being "non-partisan/independent" ) was impressed by this, but I thought it all sounded like he too was getting off on being more mature than those of us who think we all have reason to consider Trump the worst ever.

What did they call them in France? Collaborationists? Vichy?

[zentrum]

16. Vichy. Sounds right.

[Maru Kitteh]

20. I am so sick of his shit.

truly.