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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAll this because some people didn't like how Hillary Clinton managed her emails.
I officially cry "uncle" on all of this winning.
RainCaster
(10,857 posts)He controlled the last election.
certainot
(9,090 posts)lie repeatedly for 30 years about things like benghazi and hillary's emails.....
lame54
(35,277 posts)At first it was the worst thing Obama ever did
Then - when it was clear that Hillary had the nomination
It became the worst thing Hillary ever did
There was never much talk about that sleight of hand
certainot
(9,090 posts)when rw radio blew up with a story about obama and clinton ordering embassy guards around the world not to carry live ammo - suggesting they wanted attacks - which is basically what the lie was supposed to stimulate and that's why the PR guy for the army had to make a public statement that it was bullshit.
rw blowhards like hannity were definitely stupid enough to be telling the world/terrorists that our embassy guards were unarmed but who came up with that in the first place?
louis-t
(23,284 posts)They were both in the bunker, watching it in real time and saying "NO! Don't send any help!! Let them die!!!!1!!!"
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Somewhere along the line the fake scandal was seamlessly shifted from Obama to Clinton.
If I understand correctly, the official position of the GOP is that Hillary seized control over the government and ordered these terrible things to be done--whatever exactly they were also seems to vary--and Obama was completely oblivious to what was happening in his own administration.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)Instead of the Obama State Department.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)it was her lack of maleness. Look how they're all lapping up Joe.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)the "email" issue was just cover for sexism.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)as such with the ease that Biden has moving into her office. At least he's benevolent?
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)Mainly, of course, that she has one.
DURHAM D
(32,607 posts)Micheal Moore?
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Upthevibe
(8,030 posts)It goes way, way further back. They (the right wingers) started on her from when her husband was President. I won't get into it all but if you've never heard of "The Arkansas Project" that'll be a start.
Also, read a book called Blinded by the Right by David Brock (he was a conservative) who wrote a expose in 2002.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)almost as if they could see her talent and smarts. and were frightened by it.
Upthevibe
(8,030 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)Upthevibe
(8,030 posts)I wish he'd just go away....
Aristus
(66,308 posts)All the "I voted for Bernie, because Hillary is just the same as Trump" types can kiss my ass and fuck off.
Right the fuck off...
JHB
(37,158 posts)Upthevibe
(8,030 posts)A horrible character assassination with right-wing radio (especially Limbaugh) leading the charge. The elimination of The Fairness Doctrine In 1987 (during Reagan's administration) enabled the Limbaugh's of the world to become so empowered.
Yavin4
(35,430 posts)about Hillary winning.
First, the polls were not wrong. RCP's average showed that Hillary would win the national vote by 3%, and she won it by 2%, which is right on the money as far as statistics are concerned.
Second, there was a lot of movement in the polls against Hillary after Comey's completely unnecessary announcement about the "new" email cache found on Anthony Weiner's computer.
Finally, Hillary's negatives were driven higher by three forces:
- The traditional right wing Clinton-hating gang which is its own cottage industry.
- The hardcore Bernie Sanders left which never healed after the primaries
- The traditional media which bent over backwards to hype any negative story about Hillary in order to look "unbiased".
In the end, the killer was Comey.
crickets
(25,959 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)Yavin4
(35,430 posts)He literally put his fat thumb on the scale for Trump. Ironically, now the right wing think that he was a part of some grand conspiracy to help Hillary.
May they all rot in hell. They enabled a monster to become president.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Are you doing OK at riding out the Coronavirus era?
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Sorry for the delayed response. I didn't see your post. Luckily, even though being in the epicenter of the pandemic, I have made it so far without getting ill. This is far from over, so who knows what well happen in the future? I'm keeping my fingers crossed and being careful.
How about you, are you and your loved ones well? I hope that you made it through alright.
Hugs....
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Everyone is doing their best to stay as safe and careful as possible.
I'm glad that you are OK. Scary times we're living in between Trump and the pandemic. 2020 is turning out to be an annus horribilis.
Take care!!!
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Except for Putin & Co., right-leaning U.S. men and too many of "their women" as they probably think of themselves) seem to be her biggest haters.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I will never forgive the idiots who made Trump possible. That includes the disgruntled Sanders supporters who couldn't get over their favorite's loss, the folks who voted for Jill Stein and those who just stayed home for whatever reason.
GO TO HELL!!!
Cha
(297,029 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)Still angry too.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)zak247
(251 posts)You know the worst thing about 2016 is people like Susan Sarandon, Jill Stein, Micheal Moore, and the self-righteous Bernie fanatics who are all elitists.
They won't lose their Obamacare, Food stamps, but the poor and middle class always suffer.
Just like when Bush won in 2000 because of Ralph Nadirs ego.
The very survival of this country is now in doubt because of 2016
The SCOTUS alone should have had everybody with any sense vote for Hillary like they showed up for Obama.
The same thing is true in 2020
diva77
(7,638 posts)real reason why we have this massive fraudster monster on our hands now.
JI7
(89,244 posts)in a way they did not like .
It was the whole "who does she think she is" thing.
Clint eastwood made some comment about how he wasn't sure about her and how she had "made some money" .
how dare a woman make some money.
all while we knew about trash Trump and his scams with things like Trump University and shit.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)So much stupid.
KPN
(15,641 posts)to get what most of us here and most Democrats have always been saying. This is actually because of a symbiotic relationship between an egomaniac, the GOP haters and their monied manipulators, and a foreign enemy also led by an egomaniac.
Niagara
(7,592 posts)There are reports on at least 7 of tRumps people using private email, for all we know the number could be higher than that.