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ancianita

(36,023 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:55 AM Jun 2020

Letter From Antifa Reposted By My Son On His Facebook Page

PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM “ANTIFA” IN RESPONSE TO THE THREATS ISSUED BY UNITED STATES PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Dear Mr. Trump:

Let us be perfectly clear:

“Antifa” isn’t an organization. There’s no membership, no meetings, no dues, no rules, no leaders, no structure. It is, literally, an idea and nothing more. Even the claim of this author to represent “Antifa” is one made unilaterally for the purposes of this communication and nothing more; there is no governing body nor trademark owner to dispute the author’s right to represent “AntiFa.”

“Antifa” is a neologism constructed from a contraction of the phrase “anti-fascist.” The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.

The ostensible president of the United States has, today, openly declared that he is a fascist, and that he intends to turn the military power of the United States into a fascist tool.

Now there is no question, and we can stop pretending that this man represents anything but the worst in humanity, which his supporters embody.

And that is the only effect his words will have.

It will likely be no problem for LEO to identify the author of this document, who also has maintained the “AntiFa” page on Facebook since founding it in 2017.

The author of this document is unconcerned with that inevitability because neither that author, nor this document, has been involved in a crime of any sort in any way.

But, since both the “president” and the media insist on acting as though “AntiFa” is this big, scary organization, the author supposes it’s time for “AntiFa” to make a statement.

Thus:
“AntiFa supports and defends the right of all people to live free from oppressive abuse of power, whether that power is unjustly derived from wealth, status as an employer, or political popularity.

Particularly, AntiFa defends and supports the right of oppressed and marginalized people to protest, march, and engage in civil disobedience in pursuit of justice. While it is never our intent to engage in violent or destructive behavior, we cannot and will not take responsibility for telling people how they are allowed to be righteously outraged.

We prefer and encourage non-violent action. We also understand that some people just aren’t feeling that nice anymore. Their feelings are entirely justified, and it is neither our role nor our privilege to tell them otherwise.

Mass civil disobedience is what happens when people say they’re hurting and whoever’s hurting them refuses to stop.

Stop hurting them. Fix your broken systems. Get real and meaningful psychological evaluations and background checks - police in some nations have to pass a more stringent test to carry pepper spray than any police department in the US, or the US military, have in place. As a direct and possibly deliberate consequence, our military and paramilitary personnel simply cannot be assumed to be fighting in the interests of the people of this country.

We’ve all seen the photos. This destruction and burning and looting is largely the behavior of outsiders; white people taking advantage of the situation both to enrich themselves by looting under cover of the protests, and to provide excuses for uncontrolled fascist elements within our military and police forces as plausible cover for killing more black, brown, and poor people without fear of sanction.

The so-called “accellerationists” who have committed to ensuring that, any time a marginalized community stands up and demands justice, construct a narrative of criminality and destruction that white bigots and affluent oligarchs who benefit from our broken system to validate their bigotry and injustice retroactively. They are successful in this for two reasons: because people like you are easily manipulated in your banal, self-serving ignorance, and because people like you are more than happy to passive-aggressively reap the benefits of pretending to believe this destruction is the act of the oppressed.

This game has gone on for decades on an endless loop since the very dawn of the civil rights era, and we the people are saying ‘no more.’”

And that, “President” Trump, is your solution. No more. Get the dirt out of your law enforcement and your military. Get the dirt out of your government and administration. Ideally, resign now and take your VP and cabinet with you; Nancy Pelosi isn’t a great deal of improvement, but she’ll only be president for a few months.

You can’t arrest 100 million of us, sir, and you would be well-advised not to try. If you think that targeting and “making an example of” the author of this document will get you anywhere, you may rest assured that this author is more than prepared to allow his real name to be used as a rallying cry for justice and civil disobedience from coast to coast.

It is time for you and everyone who thinks like you to understand that whether black, red, brown, white, or any other color, Americans are done living in a nation of empty platitudes and broken promises.

Traditionally, this type of document is accompanied by a list of “demands.” Here are our demands:

-Universal single payer health care, without regard for citizenship status.
-Universal basic income WITH a federal job guarantee, under which the federal government becomes the “employer of last resort.” Involuntary unemployment is a function of profiteering by fascist capitalist oligarchs who are willing to sacrifice the lives of others for their own enrichment. It must end.
-The abolition of “right to work laws” which do exactly the opposite of ensuring anyone’s right to work.
-Publicly funded higher education.
-Robust and effective social welfare programs to include child care, education, employment training and counseling, parenting skills training, and life skills training including fiscal education.
-A requirement that functional proficiency in media, political, and economic literacy be demonstrated to graduate high school.
-The creation of a publicly funded non-partisan media source to serve as the primary source of government information, to be overseen and managed day to day by a coalition of well-known communicators, political scientists, and other experts in propaganda to strip ALL bias from official information before it is broadcast.
-Federal charges of treason filed against anyone willfully and knowingly attempting to minimize public perception of the impact and risks of the coronavirus.
-Reform of whistleblower laws to ensure they have teeth, and particularly to ensure that a whistleblower, acting in good faith, is not identified to the public, ever.

In the end, Mr. “President,” the simple reality is that “AntiFa” isn’t a thing. You can’t end it, you can’t arrest it, and you can’t silence it. Nor, in any decent nation, would the attempt even be made.
“Antifa” means “Anti-Fascism.”

The only position that opposes that is fascism. In the end, there is no “organization” that you can “declare terrorists.”

You, sir, and yours, are the terrorists, and your victims are done putting up with it.

America is not, in spite of having an openly admitted fascist as “president,” a fascist nation. We’ve had wars about this. The fascists are 0-2.

Please, Mr. “President” - let’s not try to make it 0-3? Because it will never, ever be 1-2, and none of us wants to see the death toll from your attempt to make it so.

Currently, media and other actors wishing to contact this author may do so through the page. Should Mr. Zuckerberg, who has displayed plenty of authoritarian and fascist tendencies himself, decide not to host that page any longer, this document will be updated.

Best Regards,
“AntiFa.”



Besides Mark Bray's The Anti-Fascist Handbook, this letter seems to be the only self-proclaimed messaging from antifa that I've ever seen in print. Which is one of the reasons Americans don't know who they are. Antifa are not self-promoting. They don't fundraise, write political tracts, advertise, buy up domain names, or organize in the usual sense. They take their modeling from their European forebears.

Also, apparently, some antifa reps are on Facebook and my son has Liked them. If I weren't so chicken-hearted as to think that stupid Zuckerberg would turn that group in to the DOJ as "domestic terrorists," I'd probably Like their page.

In my view, there's never been anything to fear about antifa. Western European countries give thanks to antifa for their very existence. I'm glad they're around, and will never let anyone tell me who they are and where. They're everywhere.


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Letter From Antifa Reposted By My Son On His Facebook Page (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2020 OP
It's a movement that needs to regulate itself better Loki Liesmith Jun 2020 #1
Wow - totally missing the point. csziggy Jun 2020 #11
I didn't miss the point. I disagree with the point. Loki Liesmith Jun 2020 #12
Explain how, please... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2020 #14
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 2020 #17
woooooooooooooooooooosh nt Celerity Jun 2020 #16
whoosh Doremus Jun 2020 #31
An Excellent Screed, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2020 #2
Thank you for reading the screed, Sir. ancianita Jun 2020 #3
Makes About as Much Sense as Designating the "Hippies" a Terrorist organization in the 1960s Stallion Jun 2020 #4
Luckily, no president did that. ancianita Jun 2020 #6
The only organized 'antifa' terrorists are right wingers. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #5
Then by definition, they are not antifa. ancianita Jun 2020 #7
Good read, but there is one problem. If your son expects Trump to read this explanation... Frustratedlady Jun 2020 #8
Duly noted. Thanks for the laugh. ancianita Jun 2020 #9
Then I am Antifa, we are Antifa! txwhitedove Jun 2020 #10
I have never known Antifa Bev54 Jun 2020 #13
I hear you. The "list of demands" part hit me,too, as not typical of antifa. If they write directly ancianita Jun 2020 #18
Yes and Antifa Bev54 Jun 2020 #19
What political party? Asking because that's not the first thing that hit me when reading it. ancianita Jun 2020 #20
It is the first thing that hit me. Bev54 Jun 2020 #23
So what party are you suspecting? ancianita Jun 2020 #24
It does not matter what party Bev54 Jun 2020 #26
Thanks for posting! FM123 Jun 2020 #21
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jun 2020 #22
They know, they just want an excuse to round up people they don't like IronLionZion Jun 2020 #25
We, Ingersollman Jun 2020 #27
Yes! ancianita Jun 2020 #28
Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Hekate Jun 2020 #29
Someone is going to have to dumb this down for Trump. SideStep Jun 2020 #30
Haha... ancianita Jun 2020 #32

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. Wow - totally missing the point.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

Read the letter and try to understand - movements cannot be regulated. They are a shift in the culture. They are organic with no way to regulate them either from the inside or the outside.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
12. I didn't miss the point. I disagree with the point.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jun 2020

Also the statement that movements cannot regulate themselves is simply a gross historical error.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,715 posts)
14. Explain how, please...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

“Antifa” isn’t an organization. There’s no membership, no meetings, no dues, no rules, no leaders, no structure. It is, literally, an idea and nothing more. Even the claim of this author to represent “Antifa” is one made unilaterally for the purposes of this communication and nothing more; there is no governing body nor trademark owner to dispute the author’s right to represent “AntiFa.”

“Antifa” is a neologism constructed from a contraction of the phrase “anti-fascist.” The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.

Response to rzemanfl (Reply #15)

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
7. Then by definition, they are not antifa.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jun 2020

Just as the right wing Boogaloo Movement's got nothing to do with boogaloo.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. Good read, but there is one problem. If your son expects Trump to read this explanation...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

he shouldn't use words bigger than a 5th grader can pronounce and understand. You overload Trump's brain and it gives him a headache.

He can process words like best, greatest, sensational, exceptional, incredible, etc., as he uses those everyday in describing his abilities, knowledge, power and his expertise in drawing large crowds.

Just sayin'.

Bev54

(10,046 posts)
13. I have never known Antifa
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

to get into political policy, other than to stand against oppression, racism and fascism. This is a much more a political statement with policy demands, that to me does not represent Antifa, who are people from all political spectrums.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
18. I hear you. The "list of demands" part hit me,too, as not typical of antifa. If they write directly
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jun 2020

to their audience -- the president -- this list (from what I know of writer/audience tailoring) might be indulging what he thinks he knows about organized "groups," while also showing him how much they are aligned to the high poll numbers of Americans who want these things, too.

Antifa are people with needs, families and work lives, just like the rest of us. So this letter, with that list, is probably, generally, a public statement of how they back general Americans' interests because they are Americans who will not tolerate Nazis and Fascists in this country.

Bev54

(10,046 posts)
19. Yes and Antifa
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jun 2020

is not an American made movement, it is a worldwide movement. I admire what this person is trying to do but using Antifa is wrong, this is a statement from a political party

Bev54

(10,046 posts)
26. It does not matter what party
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jun 2020

I am not American so it matters not to me, but I do consider myself Antifa

FM123

(10,053 posts)
21. Thanks for posting!
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jun 2020

It is true, you learn something new every day.

Unless of course you are donald trump - what an ignorant fool.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
25. They know, they just want an excuse to round up people they don't like
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jun 2020

Dissidents will be labeled Antifa, and therefore terrorists.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
32. Haha...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jun 2020
I'm sure he's got staff for that, IF it ever reaches the radar of the White House.

I'm sure that their audience are Americans who've never heard of antifa, or who've only heard the president's use of it for the first time.

I bet his comms people are checking interest in right wing use of antifa for awhile. If it looks like it's got traction he'll roll it out for rallies.
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