Looting food to feed the hungry, clothes to clothe the naked, drugs to dull the pain...

[Progressive Law]

...and electronic trinkets to make an otherwise unbearable life somewhat tolerable. I cannot support these actions, but I also cannot outright condemn them either. These are items that we take for granted, but many people cannot afford it.

[gopiscrap]

1. I agree

[still_one]

2. Do you have a link to indicate that the looters are doing this to "feed the hungry,

clothe the naked, and drugs to dull the pain"?

[Progressive Law]

3. That's the whole purpose for those items. Do you have evidence that those items...

...are being used for alternative purposes?

[mr_lebowski]

4. The implication in your phrasing is that they're taking items to give them to others ...

who are in need. Do you have evidence they're doing so?

[Progressive Law]

5. No, that was *your* assumption. My implication is that people steal items to consume them.

[mr_lebowski]

7. That is how most anyone would logically interpret those word choices ...

You can believe me or not

[Progressive Law]

8. That is how *you* interpreted it. And I have already clarified due to your misunderstanding.

[mr_lebowski]

19. I interpreted your words based on what those words actually mean ...

When placed into a sentence, in the order you placed them.

At least the first two parts of the sentence, without question.

My bad.

[Tipperary]

16. 6 pairs of sneakers?

[still_one]

9. Then you are just giving an opinion without evidence. I guess the thought that

the looter might just be selling the stolen merchandise for monetary gain doesn't occur to you

[Progressive Law]

10. I never said monetary gain was not possible.

People need money to buy the things they consume to make them less hungry, less painful, and less naked.

[jimfields33]

12. That garbage can full of sneakers from the shoe store in LA

Was complete theft and no excuse for it. None!

[MenloParque]

6. Who can blame them!

We all need the basic necessities to live! Rolexes, Nike’s, Air Jordan’s, Big screen tv’s!

[SharonClark]

11. They're criminals who are taking advantage

of the situation and are helping to turn people against the peaceful protesters. Many people are alarmed by all the destruction they see on tv and in their own cities.

[tenderfoot]

13. The looters aren't taking necessities - you can't eat high end clothing items.

They're intentionally undermining any pushback to police brutality, racism and authoritarianism.

[Progressive Law]

14. You can't eat clothes, but you can wear them.

[tenderfoot]

20. I have a feeling they'll end up on ebay

not out of need but because they can.

[demosincebirth]

15. Really?? If you believe what you said, I've got a bridge in SF

I want to sell you... cheap.

[samnsara]

17. and the whole cheesecake and two wine glasses.....?

..the purses, perfume and slashed clothing?

[Progressive Law]

18. How cruel to forbid the poor from desiring the finer goods and trinkets that the rich enjoy.

[msongs]

21. got proof that these looters are "the poor"? nt

[tenderfoot]

22. You're trolling

plain and simple

[Mosby]

36. +1

[customerserviceguy]

23. You say you cannot support these actions

yet you use biblical-sounding prose to "understand" why someone needs a Gucci purse looted from a store.

[Progressive Law]

25. "Try to understand men. If you understand each other you will be kind to each other...

...Knowing a man well never leads to hate and almost always leads to love.”

- Steinbeck

[customerserviceguy]

26. Does that include

the lockdown protesters from two weeks ago? Yes, they were goofy-ass as hell at the very least, and threatening when they brought their weapons to the Michigan state capitol building, but they didn't loot stores or burn cop cars that were paid for by all of the citizens. Am I understanding enough for you?

[Progressive Law]

27. You must first understand before you have a basis for critique.

[customerserviceguy]

28. Oh, I understand

stealing and arson. They destroy trust between people. And that feeds into Trump's divide-and-conquer strategy, through which he has accomplished nearly everything he's ever done.

[Progressive Law]

30. So then you have answered your own question on understanding. Congrats.

[tenderfoot]

32. oh, that's a good one

[jmg257]

24. Ha ha - that's funny! Rolex watches, chanel perfume, Canada Goose jackets, etc etc

I cant afford them either.

Never thought about helping myself.

[Raine]

34. That's what I was thinking too. nt

[SideStep]

29. I will not condemn the actions.

I support them. I will not excuse or apologize for understandable actions. Everyone saw this coming. Now a bunch of people are acting outraged and bothered by the actions of a group who have been stepped on, shit on, and murdered; without justice.

[Progressive Law]

31. Unfortunately, wealth & privilege often subjugates everyone beneath.

[haele]

33. If I remember my history right, the old Welsh kingdoms differentiated theft and punishment.

Theft to maintain one's life - food (including small farm animals or produce stolen for food) or clothing - you owed the theft to the owner and paid it off through some form of work or charity to the community the owner could then claim for him or herself. You do not pay a fine or pay the judge/jury that would hear your case, because the theft was generally considered justifiable, even if it were wrong.

Theft to maintain one's livelihood - as in tools or farming implements you do not possess at the time but require for what would be considered important tasks that did not otherwise hurt the original owner - you paid a small fine to the owner, the judge/jury that would hear your case, and returned/replaced what you stole as soon as possible.

Theft of items by opportunity not required to sustain life or livelihood (including stealing livestock or moving boundary stones)- pay fine to judge and jury, spend some time incarcerated, the items were returned to the owner, and you gave up property or items of equal worth to the owner to pay for their injury.

Burglary - theft of valuables - serious fines, payment of judge and jury, incarceration or banishment, and cosmetic physical marking (branding, cutting).

Robbery - Malicious theft with injury or death to the owner. All of above with the possibility of death.

Looting for the most part is in the first three categories, unless it's being accomplished by a criminal gang. It is wrong, but should not be punishable by death.

Haele

[choie]

35. No..

just No. Stealing sneakers and handbags is not the same as stealing food because one is hungry. Come on now....