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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaybe the Govs should call Trump's bluff?
"President Donald Trump threatened to mobilize the military to restore peace across the U.S. late Monday."
Really?
Anyone else see logistical problems if every Gov. accepts the help?
Every state is bending under the costs of increased security and the Moscow Mitch controlled fed paymasters are denying them more help. Surely the states might welcome not having the burden of huge increases in cop overtime. And to be honest, from what I've seen, cops aren't that proficient at crowd control. Waive the "posse comitatus" issues once so important to the RWNJ and let Trump deal with it, says I.
Just maybe the military might grow a pair and do the right thing.
lame54
(35,283 posts)Sure it could but we're not doing so great now. Time Trump was exposed for the emptiness of his rhetoric. No way the military could or would deploy to 50 states for police duty.
And maybe the sight of troops on the streets might wake up some people to what's going on under the GOP.
Just spitballing here.
lame54
(35,283 posts)But sending in the military is a big fucking phlem filled loogy that I don't want to get hit with
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)I want the law respected and strengthened.
Arresting fascism an unintended consequence for the act, but it is needed right now.
Definitely need to add to the act a 2/3 majority of both houses for override of the law.
Brother Buzz
(36,412 posts)It's revision passed overwhelming by both House and Senate, and signed into law by GW Bush in 2006.
Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that:
The President may employ the armed forces ... to ... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition ... the President determines that ... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order ... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such ... a condition ... so hinders the execution of the laws ... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law ... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act#2006%E2%80%9307_suspension
roamer65
(36,745 posts)If they are still in Posse Comitatus they need to be removed.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)In 2008, these (2006/07) changes in the Insurrection Act of 1807 were repealed in their entirety, reverting to the previous wording of the Insurrection Act.[12] It was originally written to limit presidential power as much as possible in the event of insurrection, rebellion, or lawlessness.
Brother Buzz
(36,412 posts)and there are enough loopholes built into it for the orange anus to drive a Deuce and a Half through.
SWBTATTReg
(22,110 posts)50 has asked for help/aid from rump's feds. Not one. My understanding is that the governors must ask for such help before rump can deploy fed. troops in their states. Wash. DC is a different story, I think.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,076 posts)THEY asked HIM for help. It wasn't HIS idea . . . . . .
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)the Gov's for virtually every problem from CV-19 to "weak" responses to "riots". We need him to display HIS incompetence once again.
Look, he won't send troops, he's bluffing. It would be a catalyst for chaos from the right and left.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)angrychair
(8,692 posts)They should be mobilizing our state national guard to protect their state citizens from trump's militant forces.
LTG
(215 posts)In the 50s and 60s when Presidents sent troops into a state and the specter of state against federal troops arose the President federalizes the Guard calling it to active duty. This removes the states National Guard from the control of the states. They are then ordered back to barracks.
JustAnotherGen
(31,805 posts)You can't give that s.o.b. an inch.
Midnight Writer
(21,741 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)researching for you. Your post is a series of uninformed, naive statements.