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RandySF

(58,796 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:37 PM Jun 2020

Tennessee National Guard lays down their shields at protest


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Rebecca Cardenas
@RebeccaWSMV
In a powerful moment, The Tennessee National Guard lays down their shields at a protest that has made its way up the steps of the Tennessee Capitol
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Tennessee National Guard lays down their shields at protest (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2020 OP
Wow KewlKat Jun 2020 #1
Even the actual military behaves in a less militaristic manner than the police. sop Jun 2020 #2
uh huh. Roc2020 Jun 2020 #17
should be: DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #43
The Military has much more strict standards JI7 Jun 2020 #55
K & R IllinoisBirdWatcher Jun 2020 #3
Way to go !!! Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #4
Tennessee NG, thank you for not breaking your covenant with the people. NCjack Jun 2020 #5
There you go. There's the fracture in the military I have hypothesized. roamer65 Jun 2020 #6
unlike cops, they will be charged to the full extent of the UCMJ jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #24
Very true. roamer65 Jun 2020 #29
Yep, dware Jun 2020 #50
I am from Tennessee, NellieStarbuck Jun 2020 #7
May cooler heads carry the day bottomofthehill Jun 2020 #8
I got to wonder who gave the order - can't imagine the guardsmen did it on their own. rurallib Jun 2020 #9
There was no order. One of the organizers asked them and they responded. Tanuki Jun 2020 #11
Thanks - that is amazing rurallib Jun 2020 #12
Yes! Ohioboy Jun 2020 #10
I love that locution, Bunker Boy. NNadir Jun 2020 #19
Don't make me get excited. roamer65 Jun 2020 #30
I do NOT want him killed...... MyOwnPeace Jun 2020 #42
Neither do I. I'm merely stating that those who live by sword, die by it. NNadir Jun 2020 #45
penniless with moths flying out of his empty pockets sprinkleeninow Jun 2020 #49
binky bunker boy with his blankie and nuknuk in hidey hole sprinkleeninow Jun 2020 #48
The turd will DEMAND they be punished. not_the_one Jun 2020 #60
When peaceful protest works, at least for a moment. The photo is amazing. nt crickets Jun 2020 #13
Totally AWESOME! Bayard Jun 2020 #14
Fantastic! It's only the incompetent illegal occupant of the WH that can't understand non violent. iluvtennis Jun 2020 #15
Hand salute, Soldiers sarge43 Jun 2020 #16
The tide is turning Dukkha Jun 2020 #18
That makes me proud to have been a guardsman. trof Jun 2020 #20
Now do the patches. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #21
What's that? dmr Jun 2020 #31
And the uniforms. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #34
It shouldn't be a surprise. Aristus Jun 2020 #22
So good to see this! Pretty much all of the 55 & up Trump Lucinda Jun 2020 #23
Thank you. cp Jun 2020 #25
The examples of police & National Guard expressing solidarity with the protesters is tblue37 Jun 2020 #26
Spot on canetoad Jun 2020 #54
trump doesn't do humble. calimary Jun 2020 #58
Those shields are heavy tho jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #27
It's scenes like this that reflect the true Spirit of America. patphil Jun 2020 #28
Amen dmr Jun 2020 #33
This Tennessean is proud but surprised. TNNurse Jun 2020 #32
Wonderful, Corgigal Jun 2020 #35
This is how WE get through this mess randr Jun 2020 #36
THANK YOU to the Tennessee National Guard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! onecent Jun 2020 #37
true grace.... tnbadger Jun 2020 #38
K&R, uponit7771 Jun 2020 #39
Wouldn't it be great if the fuckwit in chief would learn from this Soph0571 Jun 2020 #40
Blessed be the peacemakers Sucha NastyWoman Jun 2020 #41
Duty, honor, country. denbot Jun 2020 #44
Thank you for posting.... Upthevibe Jun 2020 #46
True Volunteers ... aggiesal Jun 2020 #47
KNR. Maybe things go are not totally hopeless. niyad Jun 2020 #51
Problem with using a states national guard is that they are citizens of said state to and that means cstanleytech Jun 2020 #52
Awesome! SheltieLover Jun 2020 #53
+! struggle4progress Jun 2020 #56
Really fine version with memory lane pix. JudyM Jun 2020 #61
Is protecting our country from foreign Doreen Jun 2020 #57
LET THIS SINK IN! louzke9 Jun 2020 #59

sop

(10,167 posts)
2. Even the actual military behaves in a less militaristic manner than the police.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jun 2020

Trump better watch his step, our military might not be as subservient as the cops.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
55. The Military has much more strict standards
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 02:17 AM
Jun 2020

Just look at how so many at the top have been critical of Trump .

This is different from the cops where it's all about protecting each other.


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Way to go !!!
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jun 2020

Do recall a certain General of a State National Guard say this,when we are or ever are Ordered to move against the Civilian Population,we are in trouble and we will pay the price down the road. We are here to protect our States People not arrest them or jail them.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. There you go. There's the fracture in the military I have hypothesized.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jun 2020

They know hurting civilians is a very bad idea. War crimes level bad.

jorgevlorgan

(8,291 posts)
24. unlike cops, they will be charged to the full extent of the UCMJ
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:25 PM
Jun 2020

As I was reminded almost every day while I was in the National Guard.

dware

(12,369 posts)
50. Yep,
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jun 2020

I was very cognizant of the UCMJ during my career in the Marines, the military doesn't fuck around with military lawbreakers.

NellieStarbuck

(266 posts)
7. I am from Tennessee,
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jun 2020

but left it years ago. All too often I hang my head in disgust at the news coming out of my old home state. This gives me hope, though. So happy that the Tennessee National Guard chooses not to brutalize its citizens.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
11. There was no order. One of the organizers asked them and they responded.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213526916

.. "Activists and local church leaders held a peaceful protest at the state capitol Monday evening. 

The crowd sang songs like "This Little Light of Mine," held signs reading "Black Lives Matter," and chanted "no justice, no peace." 

... 
One of the organizers said, "We want to invite these law enforcement officers to lay down their swords and shields and join us." 

The troops did not join in on the songs or chants. But, the crowd erupted in cheers as some of the guardsmen laid down their shields, allowing the activists to continue to peacefully protest.".... 



rurallib

(62,411 posts)
12. Thanks - that is amazing
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jun 2020

I have to wonder if the guardsmen will face some discipline for laying down their shields.
What a great symbolic act.

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
19. I love that locution, Bunker Boy.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jun 2020

Use it widely.

I never thought I would write this about an American President:

In many cases serious dictators have been brought down by ordering troops to fire on their people.

The most recent case, is the case of Nicolae Ceaușescu, who ordered the military to suppress the "revolt" - ended up trying to escape by military helicopter, whereupon, when the helicopter landed, he was arrested by the military. They held a fast sham trial and shot him and his wife.

This boy wants to go the full dictator route, and do so in a country with more than 2 centuries of experience in democracy. If he wants to be a dictator, he will face the personal risks of dictatorship.

I note Hitler died in a bunker, and Mussolini's body was hung up by his heels in a Milan square so people could spit on him.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
42. I do NOT want him killed......
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

all I want is to see him marched out of OUR White House in a 1-piece suit that matches the color of his face, then put into a police car (aw, OK, you don't have to be "too" careful about his head hitting the roof!), then put into jail for LIFE.

And, OH, what a "life" it would be!

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
45. Neither do I. I'm merely stating that those who live by sword, die by it.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jun 2020

If he dies in office, we have the other loon to follow; nothing in it for the American people.

If he dies in prison of natural causes, I'm fine with that too.

However, if he asks American troops to fire on Americans, it is quite possible that he'll end up like Indira Ghandi, or Ceaucescu, killed by his own security forces. I'm not advocating it; I'm just saying it's possible.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
60. The turd will DEMAND they be punished.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jun 2020

And more than likely the National Guard commanding officers will acquiesce, do as they're told.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
18. The tide is turning
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jun 2020

People are really sick of Orange Mussolini's racist dementia antics. He does not have the total unwavering support of military & police that he thinks he has.

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
22. It shouldn't be a surprise.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jun 2020

The military are trained to be protectors. For decades, police have been trained to see citizens as adversaries.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
23. So good to see this! Pretty much all of the 55 & up Trump
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jun 2020

voters that I know here in TN are still supporters, but there has been an exodus in the younger folks.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
26. The examples of police & National Guard expressing solidarity with the protesters is
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jun 2020

exactly what is needed.

They are showing how to do it, but far too many meatheads are too excited and eager to bust heads of peaceful protesters.

canetoad

(17,153 posts)
54. Spot on
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 02:15 AM
Jun 2020

I've seen a few instances of police/troops kneeling with the protesters. More power to them.

But a simple act of humility and equality seems to escape Trump.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
28. It's scenes like this that reflect the true Spirit of America.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jun 2020

This is what it means to love your country.
This is what it means to be one people under God.

It's the perfect counterpoint to Trump's call for violent action.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
32. This Tennessean is proud but surprised.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jun 2020

By the way, I live in Blount County. In the towns of Maryville and Alcoa there have been peaceful vigils and gatherings over the last few days. It has been encouraging.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
35. Wonderful,
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

been worried about Kent State, part 2.

Trump would approve of it too. Lord, what would the country do then?

onecent

(6,096 posts)
37. THANK YOU to the Tennessee National Guard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jun 2020

I am from Missouri....but I am glad to see this!!!

 

tnbadger

(26 posts)
38. true grace....
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 05:12 PM
Jun 2020

Through many dangers, toils and snares
We have already come
T'was Grace that brought us safe thus far
And Grace will lead us home

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
47. True Volunteers ...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

The Tennessee Volunteers helped the Texans at the Alamo
The Tennessee National Guard Volunteered to help the protesters.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
52. Problem with using a states national guard is that they are citizens of said state to and that means
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jun 2020

you risk things like this especially if its an issue that they agree with their fellow citizens about.
After all alot of people that join the national guard do not do so with the goal of shooting their fellow citizens rather they do it in the event that there is a disaster like a flood and they want to be able to help.

louzke9

(296 posts)
59. LET THIS SINK IN!
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jun 2020

Some people are questioning who those mysterious soldiers were on the streets of our capital patrolling? They had no identifying markings on their uniforms. When asked about this, these soldiers claimed they worked for the Justice Department. Some are wondering now if these are actually members of Eric Prince's PRIVATE ARMY of hired MERCENARIES. The Justice Department has no army. This should be investigated. Imagine if our President actually hired private mercenaries to disperse lawful protesters. Is this a PREVIEW of what Trump is planning in the near future? He knows he could never use our military to overthrow this government. But Eric Prince would do it for money. His only loyalty lies in a green flag with dollar signs.

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