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Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, James N. Miller just resigned, after Trump tear gas (Original Post) sunonmars Jun 2020 OP
we condemned Syria's Assad for gassing this people... agingdem Jun 2020 #1
One of the stated reasons for the Iraq war v. II Retrograde Jun 2020 #17
Dude Mustard Gas Is Not Tear Gas DanieRains Jun 2020 #20
It's not, but it's still aggressively harmful gas. Lock him up. Jun 2020 #23
Though both are still illegal to use in war gratuitous Jun 2020 #26
Mustard gas is legal for law enforcement to use? sarisataka Jun 2020 #29
In the 60's I took to the streets protesting the Vietnam War... agingdem Jun 2020 #30
Now that's how you resign! tanyev Jun 2020 #2
Spot on! Nevilledog Jun 2020 #14
K&R fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #3
He served at that position from 2012 to 2014. SideStep Jun 2020 #4
Finally finally finally, how long have we waited for this, FINALLY Leghorn21 Jun 2020 #5
What might help is... Newest Reality Jun 2020 #6
Coming shortly malaise Jun 2020 #11
He isn't prominent, experienced, professional, and influential enough? George II Jun 2020 #13
Of course... Newest Reality Jun 2020 #15
Exactly hangaleft Jun 2020 #31
McConnell blocked resolution condemning Trump Coloradocoleen Jun 2020 #7
Do the Turtle and Mrs. Traitor still dine in public? Grokenstein Jun 2020 #12
Calling Lincoln Project: new McTurtle ad please. fierywoman Jun 2020 #22
OK. So let the House pass a resolution wnylib Jun 2020 #24
Condemnation from a Senate with a Republican majority would be far more impactful hangaleft Jun 2020 #32
True, but impossible wnylib Jun 2020 #35
Thank you James Miller MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #8
KICK Leghorn21 Jun 2020 #9
Down goes the Con malaise Jun 2020 #10
I've been to "the bank" far too many times the past few years hangaleft Jun 2020 #33
Wow.. some Sanity & Humanity in the BLOTUS Admin.. RETWEETED!! Cha Jun 2020 #16
He will bomb Americans before this is over. berni_mccoy Jun 2020 #18
I hope the rethugs who have decided to vote against Dump will also vote straight Dem ticket. diva77 Jun 2020 #19
WOW!! A person of conscience in the cesspool??? How in the hell did they miss him?? niyad Jun 2020 #21
Principled, means courage. ffr Jun 2020 #25
Respect Kitchari Jun 2020 #27
Esper better hope for a pardon. nt cstanleytech Jun 2020 #28
Annnnnd another one gone! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #34
Nah. Scarsdale Jun 2020 #36
Miller resigned from the Defense Science Board, not as Under Secretary of Defense. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #37

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
1. we condemned Syria's Assad for gassing this people...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jun 2020

how about condemning Trump for tear gassing peaceful protesters...

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
23. It's not, but it's still aggressively harmful gas.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jun 2020

It gets into the lungs and who really knows what long term damages it can do.

By long term, I mean decades? It's not "natural" gas FFS.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. Though both are still illegal to use in war
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jun 2020

But totally legal for law enforcement to use against American civilians.

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
30. In the 60's I took to the streets protesting the Vietnam War...
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jun 2020

I was tear gassed twice...40 years later I can still feel it on my skin, smell it and taste it...I couldn't breathe...I couldn't see...granted tear gas isn't mustard gas but it's toxic none the less...then again covid 19 isn't lung cancer but the struggle to breathe is pretty much the same thing

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
2. Now that's how you resign!
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jun 2020

None of this “you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects” bullshit.

 

SideStep

(93 posts)
4. He served at that position from 2012 to 2014.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jun 2020

He resigned from a defense science board.

Love his style here.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
6. What might help is...
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jun 2020

We need more prominent, experienced, professional and influential people to speak out long and loud and in detail right now. No sitting on the side lines. If anybody is going to do anything about this, this is the time.

Even condemning Apricot Asscent's actions is helpful.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
31. Exactly
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:01 AM
Jun 2020

I’d like to hear words of condemnation from a few R senators. As much as I loathe him, from W, too.

I’m disappointed we haven’t heard from Colin Powell.

I’m surprised Susie isn’t “concerned”.

Coloradocoleen

(8 posts)
7. McConnell blocked resolution condemning Trump
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jun 2020

There was a Schumer resolution in the Senate today condemning Trump for tear gassing citizens. McConnell blocked a vote on it.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
10. Down goes the Con
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jun 2020

People will not tolerate this - that photo op and tear gas will backfire spectacularly. It's all down him from here. Take that to the bank.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
33. I've been to "the bank" far too many times the past few years
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:07 AM
Jun 2020

Sad, but true.

How many posts and threads have we seen pronouncing the end of Trump?

But, he’s still there.

When he’s no longer squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, then, and only then, will I believe that this nightmare is drawing to a close.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
19. I hope the rethugs who have decided to vote against Dump will also vote straight Dem ticket.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jun 2020

One can hope.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
37. Miller resigned from the Defense Science Board, not as Under Secretary of Defense.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jun 2020

He left that post in 2014.

Here is his resignation letter:

June 2, 2020

Hon. Mark T. Esper
Secretary of Defense
The Pentagon
Washington, D.C., 20301

Dear Secretary Esper,

I resign from the Defense Science Board, effective immediately.

When I joined the Board in early 2014, after leaving government service as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, I again swore an oath of office, one familiar to you, that includes the commitment to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”

You recited that same oath on July 23, 2019, when you were sworn in as Secretary of Defense. On Monday, June 1, 2020, I believe that you violated that oath. Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo.

President Trump’s actions Monday night violated his oath to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” as well as the First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble.” You may not have been able to stop President Trump from directing this appalling use of force, but you could have chosen to oppose it. Instead, you visibly supported it.

Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line: What are the things that they will refuse to do? Secretary Esper, you have served honorably for many years, in active and reserve military duty, as Secretary of the Army, and now as Secretary of Defense. You must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will?

Unfortunately, it appears there may be few if any lines that President Trump is not willing to cross, so you will probably be faced with this terrible question again in the coming days. You may be asked to take, or to direct the men and women serving in the U.S. military to take, actions that further undermine the Constitution and harm Americans.

As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.

You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it?

I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you undertook in your oath of office, as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake. In the event that at least some other senior officials may be inclined to ask these questions after reading this letter, I am making it public.

I wish you the best, in very difficult times. The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, and the lives of Americans, may depend on your choices.

Sincerely,


James N. Miller

James N. Miller served as under secretary of defense for policy from 2012 to 2014. He provided The Post with a copy of his resignation letter, which he submitted to Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Tuesday evening.


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