"Dear fundamentalist Christian Trump supporters": Stephen King

[Different Drummer]

[roamer65]

1. U can't be a Christian and support Dump.

You are either one or the other.

Yes, if there is a hell, you people will go to it for supporting a rapist who also imprisons children.

[Gore1FL]

9. The only requirement for being a Christian is believing in Christ.

There isn't a purity test beyond that or no one would be a Christian.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. It's a shallow qualification for a club. Unfortunately too many of christians are shallow. . . . nt

[Karadeniz]

17. Oops, not quite the case. Jesus mandated that his followers had to implement his teachings

To prove their faith in him. So...a Christian has to try to love friends and enemies alike. Many Christians want to focus on faith alone, but that comports in no way with the knowledge contained in the parables, which I doubt anyone understands. Faith+ works!

[Gore1FL]

18. Therein, proves my point, I thnk.

Lutherans believe in justification by faith alone. Are Lutherans not allowed to call themselves Christians?

[wnylib]

22. I grew up in a Lutheran church.

Lutherans do believe in justfication by faith. But that does not exclude them from practicing their faith in how they live, what they do, and what they don't do. For Lutherans, works follow faith. You don't have one without the other. See my above quote from Matthew.

[Gore1FL]

23. Christianity is in the eyes of the person who claims to be one.

It's not a yardstick others get to apply their own values to. That's one of the main weaknesses of religion in general.

[wnylib]

25. And yet you applied a yardstick in regard to

Lutherans.

There are numerous denominations in Christianity. Each focuses on its own interpretation of the faith. But a few basic tenets apply to Christianity in general, e.g. belief in Jesus and following his teachings.

I don't buy into the notion that there are no definitions.

That applies to any group. There are different views among Democrats. And yet there are a few things basic to being a Democrat that define us. One is an emphasis on equal rights, which is not to say that no other party recognizes human rights. But we do focus on them more. Another focus has traditionally been labor, although we slacked off on that for a while. And even moderate Dems are more progressive than Republicans.

[Gore1FL]

26. at least a self-applied yardstick. Luther espoused it. I didn't.

Regardless, there is no credible authority on what a Christian is or isn't.

[wnylib]

19. If you believe in him, then

you must follow his teachings. Not perfectly, of course, since no one is perfect. But to the best of your ability. And admit it when you fall short.

Trump does not even pretend to try living up to the teachings.

"You will know them by their fruits."
Matthew 7:16

[Gore1FL]

24. It's a cafeteria style menu of values

Take as little or as much as you want. You can justify slavery, killing, looting, raping, and general destruction in the name of Jesus. We have had the wars to prove it.

[BrightKnight]

34. You cannot justify "slavery, killing, looting, raping," etc. in scripture.

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People do these things but it is not justified in scripture. Jesus very clear about that.

[wnylib]

36. I would agree with that.

[Gore1FL]

40. You said you can't do this and that people do it in the same post.

I submit this further goes to prove my point.

[BrightKnight]

33. Making good fruit and building a reserve of righteousness

Can be done in more than one way. IMO the Catholic approach of being in a state of grace is not that different from the Methodist continuing to perfection. I also think that the Lutheran approach is beautiful. Faith and forgiveness frees you to serve your neighbor.

All of these done well can make good fruit.


The Church fragmented after the reformation but the differences are usually not that great. You would need a degree in theology to fully understand what scripture says and the differences by denomination.

Trying to reduce it to a 1 liner is not going to work.


The prosperity gospel theology that Trump associated with is not really based in scripture.



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[wnylib]

38. I didn't know that Trump associated

himself with any theological approach. He is greedy for wealth, without any religious affiliation that I can see.

I've been exposed to many versions of Christianity through family, friends, and neighbors -- Catholic, Methodist, Amish, Baptist, Quaker, Jehovah's Witness, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Christian Scientist, and prosperity theology (which I found repugnant). Also to Unitarian Universalists, Judaism, and Islam.

I minored in anthropology and took courses in tribal religions of Asia, Africa, and the Americas, as well as a history of Western relgion (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam). But there is still much that I don't know about various theologies.

Religions interest me because of what they reveal about a society's values and perspective on life. They combine philosophy, literature, and psychology, and express them in stories, music, art, and social structure.

[MontanaMama]

2. To be fair...

Barack Obama is black.



do I need this?

[BootinUp]

3. Lol, I don't think so but

Just the opinion of another whitey.

[MontanaMama]

4. Gotcha.

[lindysalsagal]

5. We need everyone calling out the bastard.

[BootinUp]

6. It's important that artists speak out because

They are real good communicators and thinkers.

[Docreed2003]

7. K&R

Screw those hypocritical bastards

[Mariana]

8. They called him the Antichrist anyway. nt.

[wnylib]

28. They called him an atheist, a Muslim,

a communist, and a Nazi.

They threw anything at him that they considered negative. In their minds, he embodied all things negative, all at once, even when they were contradictory to each other.

[Devilsun]

11. I love him

[DanieRains]

12. Trump Isn't Satan

He just works for him.

[niyad]

13. Beginning to wonder if the prince of darkness isn't working for malevolent MURDERER.

[Grokenstein]

14. I saved a link to NanceGreggs' "Pick One." From 2018 but still relevant.

"Are you for the principles we’ve always stood for or are you a Republican? You can’t be both."

Read the whole thing.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210966846

[crickets]

15. +1

[wnylib]

29. Excellent. Thank you.

[certainot]

16. it is a mistake for media to keep putting evangelicals in his camp. they are dittoheads first

and pretend to be evangelicals

[not_the_one]

20. People need to remember that these wackos want one thing... the end of the world. Literally.

And for them the ends justify the means.

They know exactly that the turd IS a turd. But apparently Jesus Christ is now the lord and saviour of President PussyGrabber, and they are just fine with that.

They want that final orgasm that is the rapture. They think he will help bring that to fruition.

The reality will be that Jesus will deny them thrice before the dawn.

Sad, all their hate and vitriol because of sex, and their desire to make man superior to woman.

The real surprise will be when they die, and nothing. Nada. They blink into nothing.

Meanwhile, WE have to deal with these raving lunatics.

[wnylib]

31. No surprise actually, if there is nothing.

Can't really register in a mind or spirit that isn't there. So they can die with their beliefs intact and unchallenged.

[Crunchy Frog]

21. Just call them the Anti-Christians.

They obviously worship the Anti-Christ.

[Cha]

27. So it was Backwards & UPside Down!

[betsuni]

30. In a tan suit. THE BOOK OF REVELATION COME TO LIFE!

[greyl]

32. That's true, but it wasn't upside down. nt

[BrightKnight]

35. and they did not care if he read the Bible or not. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

37. Stephen King doesn't seem to be a fan.

From his movie, The Mist:

[raccoon]

39. As usual he's right on target. Maybe that's an idea for a story, mr king. Nt